How can we destroy climate change sceptics?

[El_Machinae]

Well, our influence on climate is miniscule. Our influence on climate change is something else.

 

[Quasar1011]

Not according to anyone who has studied it.

You need to wake up, and pay attention to the news. Have you not heard of Climategate?

 

[aelf]

You need to wake up, and pay attention to the news. Have you not heard of Climategate?

I have. And?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

You need to wake up, and pay attention to the news. Have you not heard of Climategate?

Ah, Pseudo sceptics. Dismissing mountains of evidence, while drawing conclusions from 3 sentences in 3000 emails.

I heard of Climate Gate. I was worried about Climate Gate. I'd have been quite mad if what the blogs reported was true.

And then it was put into perspective by this article, courtesy of El Machineaux for bringing it to my attention.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2009-12-12-14-31-45

The 1,073 e-mails examined by the AP show that scientists harbored private doubts, however slight and fleeting, even as they told the world they were certain about climate change. However, the exchanges don't undercut the vast body of evidence showing the world is warming because of man-made greenhouse gas emissions.

Scientist saying they're certain = bad. No ifs or butts on that one.

 

[Bast]

Ah, Pseudo sceptics. Dismissing mountains of evidence, while drawing conclusions from 3 sentences in 3000 emails.

I heard of Climate Gate. I was worried about Climate Gate. I'd have been quite mad if what the blogs reported was true.

And then it was put into perspective by this article, courtesy of El Machineaux for bringing it to my attention.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2009-12-12-14-31-45

Seen it too. It's great.

However, what that does show is that we need to restrain ourselves. Don't let emotions and politics get in the way of science. Let the science speak for itself and more and more people will wake up to the truth.

 

[Cutlass]

You need to wake up, and pay attention to the news. Have you not heard of Climategate?

That proves that scientists are human. Not that they've made things up.

 

[MobBoss]

That proves that scientists are human. Not that they've made things up.

Hate to break it to you but humans do indeed sometimes make stuff up for a wide variety of reasons.

 

[RedRalph]

Hate to break it to you but humans do indeed sometimes make stuff up for a wide variety of reasons.

That's a compltely irrelevant response to what he said (as well you know)

 

[MobBoss]

That's a compltely irrelevant response to what he said (as well you know)

No, its not irrelevant to his comment about them being human. Human error, and their ability make stuff up (lie) are well known. Climate scientists arent immune to doing that since they are indeed human.

As to climate change. Saying the climate is changing is like saying water is wet. The planets climate has been ever changing since it formed an atmosphere...

 

[Cutlass]

Hate to break it to you but humans do indeed sometimes make stuff up for a wide variety of reasons.

Roses grow in dirt?

 

[aelf]

No, its not irrelevant to his comment about them being human. Human error, and their ability make stuff up (lie) are well known. Climate scientists arent immune to doing that since they are indeed human.

So you think scientists made up AGW? Didn't know you were a conspiracy theorist.

 

[El_Machinae]

So, the ad hominem here is that 'they're human'?

 

[MobBoss]

Roses grow in dirt?

Not in a hydroponic nursery.

 

[Cutlass]

So, the ad hominem here is that 'they're human'?

Yes, They are wrong because they are human.

 

[MobBoss]

So you think scientists made up AGW? Didn't know you were a conspiracy theorist.

Do I think they made it up? No.

But I think people see what they want to see.

In other words, I think global warming is way over-hyped.

Of course the climate is changing, but I think our effect on it is minimal. The planets climate has been changing ever since the thing formed. Sure I am for living with less pollution, but lets be real. I dont think we have that much ability to alter the climate for good or bad, and its simply going to require us to continue to adapt as we have for millenia......or go kaput.

Yes, They are wrong because they are human.

About as accurate as believing they are correct because they are human.

 

[El_Machinae]

Yeah, adaptation. That's why mitigation payments are being discussed, recommended, and probably approved.

 

[Cutlass]

About as accurate as believing they are correct because they are human.

Which, again, as is typical, is simply changing the subject rather than addressing the points. No one in the world believes or argues that. So why bring it up at all except to obscure the issues?

 

[MobBoss]

Which, again, as is typical, is simply changing the subject rather than addressing the points. No one in the world believes or argues that. So why bring it up at all except to obscure the issues?

Look, your're the one whos defense of climate-gate was 'it shows their human'. Not me.

 

[RedRalph]

Which, again, as is typical, is simply changing the subject rather than addressing the points. No one in the world believes or argues that. So why bring it up at all except to obscure the issues?

Exactly. It's totally irrelevant and addressing a point he didn't make.

 

[RedRalph]

Look, your're the one whos defense of climate-gate was 'it shows their human'. Not me.

Jesus look, I'll make it real simple for you: He didnt say humans never make things up, he said there was no proof that these scientists made things up.