Fantasy is way cooler. If it is boring it must be reality . . . 
How certain are you of an afterlife?
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Perfection
The Great Head.
Screw fantasy! I've seen the charge of a single electron!Eran of Arcadia said:Fantasy is way cooler. If it is boring it must be reality . . .
angeleyes
mood indigo
Perfection said:Screw fantasy! I've seen the charge of a single electron!
Reality is some form of fantasy
Perfection
The Great Head.
How do you justify that statement?Asperger said:
angeleyes
mood indigo
Perfection said:
How would you justify the oppostie?
Asperger said:
Reality is reality seems quite easily justifiable.
Fantasy is reality. Even the imagined thoughts of my brain are real as part of my brain.
angeleyes
mood indigo
Yes, i have had this discussion in a thread on tv, and i said tv is reality, something like that. Dreams are reality. It's all experience, and experience is never false....
Perfection
The Great Head.
Experience may never be false, but interpretations of them might be.
It's useful to think of reality as objective.Asperger said:
DYNAMICS
Chief Engineer
to under the metaphysical world, one must be equip with a language that deals with the metaphysical. Its well known that the English language is weak when it comes to understanding "beyond the physical world. Because the English language is structured in a way that it only deal with the physical world alone. The words like angel, hell, God Jesus are all terms derive later ,in Latin, from other religious sources.
angeleyes
mood indigo
Perfection said:
hmm, Objective is what everyone agree with, isn't it?
First: there is hardly anything everyone agrees,
Second: If everyone agrees, it's still not certain (eg. in the future some guy(girl) genius could prove the opposite...)
So, everything is subjective is my statement.
angeleyes
mood indigo
puglover said:
Why did you do that?
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
puglover said:
Why have you received this offer and I haven't?
angeleyes
mood indigo
puglover said:
How......?
warpus said:
It was given to all humanity, warpus. Its divine words were given to us through the scriptures. I've found it very encouraging, for there is enough evidence in its words to justify my trust, and it radiates hope. The offer is avaliable to all, but it requires the dedication of all self to its source.
Asperger said:
Personally, the fufilment of the prophecies in Jesus' life, the greatness of created nature, the hunger of man to believe in the divine, and the prescence of moral sense and self-awareness in humans all point to Christ as the one I can put my faith in.
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Asperger said:
i agree with you, and to make it even worse we can only precieve the world trough our senses but have no way of verifying those readings.
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
puglover said:
Every religion claims that its holy texts are "the word of God". Saying that I received an offer from the Christian God due to the mere existence of the Bible is like saying that I received an offer from every single God discussed in a religious text in existence.
I'm not going to go through every single religious text and attempt to appease every single God found within simply because religious adherents are going to tell me that their religious text is "the one".
If God is truly offering something to me he should do more than just insert a couple quotes into one religious text out of thousands. How would he expect me to find the "true" religious text out of the thousands, when all of the religious texts I come across claim to be "the truth" ?
Perfection
The Great Head.
No, objective means not part of the mentality of the individual. There's a phenomenal reality out there that is not of my fantasy.Asperger said:
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