How do you pronounce "Gif"?

[Birdjaguar]

Yes the poll is terrible. I didn't vote because there is no "jif" option.

 

[gay_Aleks]

become a deaf mute with me

 

[Mise]

But if he followed what you told him he'd have to vote for the 2nd option

 

[cardgame]

The second option is for jiffers, who follow what Steve W. says.

 

[gay_Aleks]

I'm still confused what the third is, but being a rebel, I went ahead with it.

 

[Hygro]

Is it rebellion to chose a preselected option?

 

[gay_Aleks]

So long as it isn't a popular pre-selected option.

 

[Borachio]

Eh? Someone say there's a poll?

I don't answer polls on principle.

 

[Akka]

Of course you would think it's relevant, because it's a point that supports your position. That doesn't mean it actually is relevant though.

I actually provided reasons why it's relevant, which you just ignored, and you seem to be the one accepting a point because it supports your position, not me.

And, boy, does it ever. I'm not sure I've ever seen such a lopsided poll on CFCOT.

26-1-1 at the time of this posting.

Well, the way in which the poll is worded doesn't really push people to vote though.

 

[El_Machinae]

Hey, this all reminds me of a puzzle I invented one time.

So at the risk of further hijacking the thread, here's my puzzle:

What's an abbreviation you use (probably at least once a week) that takes longer to say (in syllable count) that the phrase it abbreviates?

I say it with an Australian accent whenever I see nuclear missiles fly by.

 

[cardgame]

Why is the coiner's preferred pronunciation the way to go, Akka?

That sounds dictatorial to me. The people have decided. Let the people be free.

 

[Commodore]

Why is the coiner's preferred pronunciation the way to go, Akka?

That sounds dictatorial to me. The people have decided. Let the people be free.

Because going by the coiner's preferred pronunciation keeps the extreme minority that pronounce it 'jif' from having to admit they are wrong.

 

[gay_Aleks]

but who gives a flying [copulation] about this

seriously five pages of this

 

[Commodore]

but who gives a flying [copulation] about this

seriously five pages of this

That's what happens when that wonderful human trait of refusing to admit one is wrong about something rears its head.

Seriously, I have noticed there has been an increase in this type of attitude everywhere I go. It's like people see admitting being wrong as a sign of weakness and don't want to seem weak in front of anyone. As Madea put it in "Madea Goes to Jail" nobody wants to "get got" so they will fight tooth and nail over the stupidest things just to avoid admitting any kind of defeat. And the internet makes it worse because admitting you are wrong on the internet means you may appear weak in front of the entire world. It's really a sad state of mind to be in.

 

[gay_Aleks]

you do realise you're doing that right now

 

[Commodore]

you do realise you're doing that right now

Being right isn't the same as refusing to admit being wrong.

 

[gay_Aleks]

and what determines you're right

 

[Commodore]

and what determines you're right

Have you not read this thread? Or even just looked at the poll results?

 

[Akka]

Why is the coiner's preferred pronunciation the way to go, Akka?

That sounds dictatorial to me. The people have decided. Let the people be free.

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And when it comes to "the creator said so", it certainly seems pretty relevant to me. The creator certainly can't redefine english, but when english allows for several correct pronounciations, then the person who invented the word definitely has legitimacy about the correct one. That's especially true for names - if someone tells you his name is pronounced in a specific way (and this way is correct in english), are you going to argue that no, you know better how it should be said ?

And by the way, even if we consider that a name has a pronounciation which is up to everyone to decide, it means that there is no "right" way to pronounce it, and as such arguing it should use a hard "G" is also wrong (because, hey, you just said it's up to everyone to chose). It's kinda a self-defeating argument.

That's what happens when that wonderful human trait of refusing to admit one is wrong about something rears its head.

The irony is so, so, soooo thick here

 

[Mise]

There's no "wrong" way to pronounce it lol

edit: x-post