TheAlamo
Prince
I voted average. Some are excellent, most are okay, and some are...well they make you wonder what the vetting process for mods is.
How highly do you rate the moderators?
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When in doubt, we talk it over. We ask for advice, suggestions, and generally have a meeting like they do on Star Trek: TNG. Sometimes this might go on for a couple of days, which is why some reported posts don't get tended to right away.I say "When in doubt, don't waste your time giving an infraction" (Do you all enjoy it or something)
Personally, I don't enjoy giving infractions. I give them because it's part of the job, but I wouldn't call it enjoyable.
When you use the word "ignorant" it's sometimes very difficult to tell if you mean "ignorant = stupid" or "ignorant = don't know." If it's meant in the sense that "ignorant = don't understand" that is a really difficult thing to interpret at times. (I say "you" in the generic sense, not the personal).
Gary Childress
Student for and of life
Personally I think moderators should allow criticism of their actions. Right now mods take criticism about the way a fascist takes criticism. (IE they don't allow it.)
If you could only see our pm boxes. Anyhow, when you say "actions" I presume you mean "infractions"? What I would say is moderators, including myself, have reversed infractions and are good about talking reasonably with people.
However, abuse and criticism are two different things so if you're being abusive to a mod then you won't have a lot of success getting much response. As the saying goes "you'll catch more bees with honey than vinegar" and calling them a fascist probably won't work.
TheAlamo
Prince
Actually, bees are more attracted to vinegar than they are honey.
Gary Childress
Student for and of life
Sorry but if the shoe fits...
I did not know that.
If that's how you feel it's your prerogative. Good luck with that.
Gary Childress
Student for and of life
Seriously, do you expect an American to believe in the absolute authority of anyone else over him? Do you expect him NOT to rebel against authority?
That's something that could be discussed in a thread all by itself. But Site Feedback isn't the best place to do so.
Suffice to say, we are ALL here at the pleasure of Thunderfall. It's HIS site, HIS forum. He could wake up tomorrow and kick us ALL out if he wanted. So I would say that it doesn't really matter what part of the world you're from or what your political beliefs are. Thunderfall does have absolute authority here, over a heckuva lot of people.
If you think you need to rebel against that...
Gary Childress
Student for and of life
That's something that could be discussed in a thread all by itself. But Site Feedback isn't the best place to do so.
Suffice to say, we are ALL here at the pleasure of Thunderfall. It's HIS site, HIS forum. He could wake up tomorrow and kick us ALL out if he wanted. So I would say that it doesn't really matter what part of the world you're from or what your political beliefs are. Thunderfall does have absolute authority here, over a heckuva lot of people.
If you think you need to rebel against that...
Well his $ite wouldn't be a whole heck of anything to brag about if it weren't for all the participants on it. If he doesn't value the people who are making his $ite successful then what can anyone else do about it but let him close the $ite. And I disagree that site feedback isn't the place to discuss the handling of the site by administrators. I fail to see the disconnect.
Actually, he values the people here a great deal. I just said that if he wanted to kick everybody out, he could. He could institute a rule that we all have to have Barney the Dinosaur avatars. My point is that it's his site, so he is the ultimate authority.
You appear to have misunderstood a bit. Your question of "do you expect an American to believe in the absolute authority of anyone else over him? Do you expect him NOT to rebel against authority?" might make an interesting discussion thread in OT. But Site Feedback isn't the right place to ask that particular question.
Absolute authority? Really?
Could it be that you don't like rules? Rules are in every aspect of life so either you play by them or you don't. At least here you won't be fired or put in jail because you don't follow them.
Honestly, it shouldn't be that difficult to play by the rules here. Maybe you find it difficult but I would ask what rules and why are they so difficult to follow?
GhostWriter16
Deity
Yes, if you call them idiot, yes. Not calling their post idiotic, that just means the thought was bad. That said, I don't have an issue with Whomp's point, its just... When a poster is trying to dare you to insult them, infract that poster too, please...
I voted "poor".
NEVERMIND: You did.
Personally, I kinda agree with his point, if you could publically criticize an action, they'd be less hasty to make hasty decisions.
That being said, the rules say otherwise, you have to respect them. Also, I wouldn't call the mods Fascists really, more inconsistent then Fascist.
Still, before you complain about mods, you really have to read this. If you weren't there, don't talk about bad modding.
http://epicduels.3.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=777
As GK on that forum two years ago, I tend to be more gracious to mods that actually have a case for something (Even one I disagree with at times.) I was there, so I respect the people here who don't make quite so hasty judgment.
Gary Childress
Student for and of life
GhostWriter16
Deity
I've given a reason in the past half dozen posts. What more do you want?
I was looking at Page 2 and thought it was the last one for some reason. I edited my post.
Gary Childress
Student for and of life
I don't think you're getting it Valka. I said the quote about Americans and absolute authority in connection with the ongoing discussion. It has its place in the articulation of the topic. It's not an isolated phrase without context. So YES it does relate to site feedback. Nice try to derail the thread though.
If Thunderfall values the people here then this is his test. If he wants my participation then he is going to have to be a little more respectful of his customers. It's a two way street. I'm perfectly happy to leave and this discussion will probably be the last one I have on CivFanatics. I'm yanking my graphics with it. This site will not get my patronage. Quite frankly with a statement in the forum rules that "Freedom of Speech does not apply here" I probably never should have patronized this site to begin with.
Gary Childress
Student for and of life
This is the stupidest rationale I have ever heard. "It's the rules they can't be changed so you ought to follow them." Surely you can do better than that? I'm not talking about breaking the law. I'm talking about changing a bad one.
GhostWriter16
Deity
Well, if they were saying "This forum is socialist, if you are commie or capitalist you can either shut up or get out, I'd agree with your point. However, they ask you be civilized, and if this forum is to exist you have to do this. I personally think they take it a bit too far, but still the point remains. If there was none, discussions would degenerate to "Your an idiot." "I know you are but what am I."
(In case it isn't clear, I wasn't calling Gary an idiot, I was talking about what the forum would be like if they used Gary's suggestion.
That's not what he said though. He asked "Why the rules are difficult to follow?" to which I answer, "The ones that aren't clear can often be tough to follow." He wasn't denying your right to discuss desired change.
Gary Childress
Student for and of life
Define "civilized".
Here it means discourse within the bounds set by the forum rules and as interpreted by the mods and admins.
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