GhostWriter16
Deity
I might be privledged according to external factors but most of my preteen/early teen life was miserable due to internal factors anyway.
How Privileged Are You?
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MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
I got a +100.
This is a stupid test. Privilege is not determined by any of these factors directly. It is determined by the sort of relationships one has with others in the same community. Anything that is considered a privilege in one community can be a disadvantage in another community.
This is a stupid test. Privilege is not determined by any of these factors directly. It is determined by the sort of relationships one has with others in the same community. Anything that is considered a privilege in one community can be a disadvantage in another community.
Archbob
Ancient CFC Guardian
+130 or so.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Sixty. (Or seventy-five not including the last question, which seems to assume that nobody works evenings or weekends.) Not really sure what this is actually supposed to measure; seems goofy even by the standards of already-questionable privilege theories of inequality.
God is dead, mate. Face it. No use trying to reconstruct him at the level of the genome.
+50.
Stupid test.
...and here comes one of the ambiguities into the test (besides all the bad stuff...):
Does the test ask if you feel privileged, or if you're seen as privileged?
A white rich male, who's secretely gay, might be seen as privileged.
But if you're that yourself, you might not feel that privileged, because you have quite some disadvantage (not living like you want to live).
Same for that dumb measurement for jobs.
Investment banker +25, fireman -10.
This apparently asks if you are privileged. But not if you're seen as privileged, because if it's e.g. about respect (which also counts somehow into that, IMHO), then you can directly swap the numbers.
Stupid test.
...and here comes one of the ambiguities into the test (besides all the bad stuff...):
Does the test ask if you feel privileged, or if you're seen as privileged?
A white rich male, who's secretely gay, might be seen as privileged.
But if you're that yourself, you might not feel that privileged, because you have quite some disadvantage (not living like you want to live).
Same for that dumb measurement for jobs.
Investment banker +25, fireman -10.
This apparently asks if you are privileged. But not if you're seen as privileged, because if it's e.g. about respect (which also counts somehow into that, IMHO), then you can directly swap the numbers.
The Supervisor
Chieftain
I bet Obama is less privleged than I am on this test too
But his high income would give him so many points!
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
Why are there such big gaps in the income category? What about those who make between $30k and $45k, $65k and $100k, or $250k and $1 million (which would include the president) per year?
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This is a stupid test. It's clearly unprofessional and just thrown together based on someone's personal views. For example, no one makes more than $1 trillion a year, it's insulting to Greeks and Poles, and reflective of only one worldview (likely U.S. - it doesn't consider that maybe it's a disadvantage being Christian, for instance, in certain places).
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+130.
I agree with every one else.
I agree with every one else.
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
I got 0, but this test is stupid, as otherse have said.
My qualms:
1. Why does being Asian make me privileged? This is the one that angers me the most. Asians are still subject to discrimination, except it's in a much more subtle manner - the portrayal of Asians in the media, for instance, i.e., all Asians are nerds so we should just use them in our technology and science fields - so while it's not as bad or overt as other types of racism, it's still something that a lot of Asians have to put up with. That's not to mention there are clear socio-economic differences between various Asian groups. Many SE Asians, for instance, simply aren't as wealthy as their E Asian counterparts. There are also certain subgroups of white Americans who are also poor and underprivileged, I'm sure.
2. I'm super tall. What does that have to do with anything? The chart is suggesting the idea that more attractive people, i.e. taller people, do better, which may or may not be true. But I have seen that in my case it doesn't do anything for me.
3. Disease. What do you define as a disease? I got this thing called Crohn's disease. It's incurable, and while it has some serious (unless complications arise in the rare, rare case) it's not life-threatening and I can live my life normally for the most part. Is this equivalent to someone who has cancer, then? Because if it isn't, my score should be 50.
4. This is American-centric. I don't think being a Christian in [insert generic Middle Eastern country with conservative Muslim culture] is pleasant.
5. Why are doctors, engineers, and tech people more privileged? Because there are (slightly) more job opportunities available for them or something? I thought doctors particularly - normal doctors - had to pay craploads for medical school loans. My youngest uncle, who's an engineer, has to take a bunch of part-time jobs as a community college professor just so that he can pay for my grandma's medical treatment, the financial problems of other people in the house, among other things - I don't think his being an engineer makes him any more privileged or financially secure.
I suppose this is just a very unacademic chart based on some random bloke's opinions. Good for him.
Or her.
My qualms:
1. Why does being Asian make me privileged? This is the one that angers me the most. Asians are still subject to discrimination, except it's in a much more subtle manner - the portrayal of Asians in the media, for instance, i.e., all Asians are nerds so we should just use them in our technology and science fields - so while it's not as bad or overt as other types of racism, it's still something that a lot of Asians have to put up with. That's not to mention there are clear socio-economic differences between various Asian groups. Many SE Asians, for instance, simply aren't as wealthy as their E Asian counterparts. There are also certain subgroups of white Americans who are also poor and underprivileged, I'm sure.
2. I'm super tall. What does that have to do with anything? The chart is suggesting the idea that more attractive people, i.e. taller people, do better, which may or may not be true. But I have seen that in my case it doesn't do anything for me.
3. Disease. What do you define as a disease? I got this thing called Crohn's disease. It's incurable, and while it has some serious (unless complications arise in the rare, rare case) it's not life-threatening and I can live my life normally for the most part. Is this equivalent to someone who has cancer, then? Because if it isn't, my score should be 50.
4. This is American-centric. I don't think being a Christian in [insert generic Middle Eastern country with conservative Muslim culture] is pleasant.
5. Why are doctors, engineers, and tech people more privileged? Because there are (slightly) more job opportunities available for them or something? I thought doctors particularly - normal doctors - had to pay craploads for medical school loans. My youngest uncle, who's an engineer, has to take a bunch of part-time jobs as a community college professor just so that he can pay for my grandma's medical treatment, the financial problems of other people in the house, among other things - I don't think his being an engineer makes him any more privileged or financially secure.
I suppose this is just a very unacademic chart based on some random bloke's opinions. Good for him.
Or her.
It's established fact that taller people in general tend to be more successful
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/everyday_economics/2002/03/short_changed.html
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
Well, thanks to my "disease", I'm extremely scrawny and my body shape isn't very pleasant thanks to that, so I think that sort of reduces any bonus I can gain from being tall - maybe not all of it, but again, thanks to this chart's oversimplification of things, such nuances are not accounted for.
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Jewel Runner
Hey man King Abdullah has had to overcome a lot
Funny thing is I don't feel privileged at all
Quick, someone unpack this!
Loppan Torkel
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No, it's because it's in our nature to feel underprivileged and unfairly treated.
SS-18 ICBM
Oscillator
Exactly 100. I don't exactly disagree with the assessment that I have privileges billions don't have.
Currently chuckling at the people taking this too seriously.
Currently chuckling at the people taking this too seriously.
Disgustipated
Deity
We're not taking the silly quiz seriously, but we are taking the question of how much privilege do white people have seriously. It's a legitimate and good question.
I've thought about it some more, and I may have understated how much privilege white people have. Because none of us white people think about it on a daily basis. We don't have to worry about walking into a store, and have the owners/clerks worried that we'll steal something or rob the store. Even when we wear ratty clothing they won't suspect us. Although if you dress like a skinhead or something, they will be suspicious of you I'm sure.
And I realize that I'd have a chip on my shoulder too if people were constantly thinking I'm a gangster. I don't blame black people for getting upset. They have a right to be upset. But I still don't think it's right to take their anger out on white people. I'd rather they use that anger to clean up their neighborhoods, and put the gangsters out of business so to speak. Then people wouldn't stereotype them as such.
I've thought about it some more, and I may have understated how much privilege white people have. Because none of us white people think about it on a daily basis. We don't have to worry about walking into a store, and have the owners/clerks worried that we'll steal something or rob the store. Even when we wear ratty clothing they won't suspect us. Although if you dress like a skinhead or something, they will be suspicious of you I'm sure.
And I realize that I'd have a chip on my shoulder too if people were constantly thinking I'm a gangster. I don't blame black people for getting upset. They have a right to be upset. But I still don't think it's right to take their anger out on white people. I'd rather they use that anger to clean up their neighborhoods, and put the gangsters out of business so to speak. Then people wouldn't stereotype them as such.
