I hate sterotypes about college

[ELITEOFWARMAN8]

After a combination of things from a argument on this forum a few weeks ago to this series of commercials I was seeing to some other things I feel like I have to vent.

I hate stereotypes of college. There are I few I seen I hated and feel like complaining about.


Stereotype #1- You have to go to a 4 year college-

Why do I have to go to one for all 4 years? What, to prove myself? Gentlemen and ladies (if we have any here), I don't have to prove myself to any of you or others. I wanted to go to Art Institute for Game Design. I don't remember what the cost was for it but I think the program as a whole in summer of 2010 was 75 or 80K and that is without Room and board.

Why should I get 80K in the hole for?


Stereotype #2- Community colleges are useless and you should not go there (See #1 partially)-

Wait, I want to save money. You not paying my bill, so why do people look at me funny for going to one? My family is not rich and in case people don't realize, it will take me awhile to save up 40-50K to go to college and not have to take out loans if I got a job at Burger King's.

I spent two years at a CC. They accept bums, yes, but doesn't 4 year places not have bums to? Not as much but still. People say AS/AA degrees are useless. No, not really depending on the degree. I know people with AS/AA degrees get good jobs as welders,painters,etc....

Yes, my AS degree in General Studies doesn't mean much, I am sure downtown will agree with me on this. But I knew that ahead of time. My goal is a BS so I can get a foot in the door then off to get a Master's.



Stereotype #3- You have to move out-
Ah, no I don't. Why? So I go live with my fellow college students? With whom I got to know at CC + people I know, no thanks.

I am not in a mood to share a room with a guy I don't even know. And I am not paying 2-3K extra for a single bed room as well.

Again, why should I move out when I got a college 5 minutes from my house, 20 minutes from my house, and 2 more 45 minutes away? Sorry, I am not paying 10-15K extra to stay out to "prove myself" and be in more debt.... no thanks.



Stereotype #4- You have to do this in college!

I don't have to do crap in college. "Well, you have to take drugs!" Uhm nope, I never took drugs. It is stupid. "You have to get drunk" Nope, no I don't. I rather join a club and be it's President which I actually was then go get wasted.


Meh, I'm done now .

 

[Quackers]

did u get bored of ur dinosaur toy

 

[Zelig]

Based on this post, I would not hire you regardless of your college qualifications.

 

[Rashiminos]

I'm not sure #2 exists. Your aversion to #3 is rather telling.

 

[ELITEOFWARMAN8]

did u get bored of ur dinosaur toy

10 years ago.

Based on this post, I would not hire you regardless of your college qualifications.

I'm not sure #2 exists. Your aversion to #3 is rather telling.

How so?

 

[Rashiminos]

How so?

How well (rather, how poorly) you adjust to living (replace living with other words as needed) with people you don't know well.

 

[ELITEOFWARMAN8]

How well (rather, how poorly) you adjust to living (replace living with other words as needed) with people you don't know well.

uhm.... Sorry, I am not paying 10K extra to live with someone else. You think I should?

 

[bhsup]

The question is, do your parents think you should?

 

[Oruc]

How well (rather, how poorly) you adjust to living (replace living with other words as needed) with people you don't know well.

Why should he pay 10k just too live with someone else? He should be trying to cut down expenses if he's taking on a massive loan.

 

[ELITEOFWARMAN8]

The question is, do your parents think you should?

No. If we had the money then maybe, but since I/we don't, we all agreed it probably won't be a good idea.

Why should he pay 10k just too live with someone else? He should be trying to cut down expenses if he's taking on a massive loan.

Thank you. I'm going to be about 25K in the hole anyhow + the campus is 10 minutes from my house so it's a moot point.

I know one or two kids who did it though and I thought it was stupid moving to a campus.... 10 minutes from your house?

 

[Leonel]

I thought you were talking about the wholly unrealistic college culture movies portray where kids party every day and somehow graduate.

 

[holy king]

 

[sophie]

How well (rather, how poorly) you adjust to living (replace living with other words as needed) with people you don't know well.

I agree with this. It's something you realize after living in the dorms/with other people in college. A good chunk of the learning experience of college is the college lifestyle; for most it's the first time they're completely on their own. It's the first time they have to set their own budget, manage their own expenses, take care of food for themselves, learn to live with people they aren't actually obliged to like, deal with caring for a house without parents around to nag you about it. Not having parents around to remind you that going out drinking on a Sunday night with a paper due the next morning is a terrible idea. Partying noisily with friends can get you into trouble. Having to deal with neighbors. That sort of stuff. It's not necessarily true for everyone, but for many college students this IS the first time they have to experience these sorts of responsibilities, and being able to learn from them in a controlled environment like a college campus where you aren't necessarily going to get into a particularly large heap of trouble is, in my opinion, every bit as important as the classes you aren't necessarily obligated to attend.

 

[warpus]

Stereotype #3- You have to move out-
Ah, no I don't. Why? So I go live with my fellow college students? With whom I got to know at CC + people I know, no thanks.

I am not in a mood to share a room with a guy I don't even know. And I am not paying 2-3K extra for a single bed room as well.

Again, why should I move out when I got a college 5 minutes from my house, 20 minutes from my house, and 2 more 45 minutes away? Sorry, I am not paying 10-15K extra to stay out to "prove myself" and be in more debt.... no thanks.

It's not really about "moving out" but rather moving to a different town so you can live a life independent from that of your parents' and gain life experiences that wouldn't be possible in your parents' basement.

When I went to University I didn't stay in res./a dorm for the reasons you cite - it's expensive, and while it leads to much partying and sexual activities, me and a buddy of mine rented out an apartment on our own.. saved a lot of money, cooked for ourselves, and ended up with a much nicer apartment than what you would get at a dorm/res type place that's affiliated with the university you're going to.

Some people say that the social aspect of college/uni is important.. and a part of that we missed out on.

But in the end it's your life and you can direct it in whichever direction you wish - especially when you're that young.. Designing your life around other people's expectations is only going to turn you into a grumpy old man when you're 50/60

 

[Borachio]

"Campus" college far from home, for many middleclass kids is a rite of passage. An important transition between childhood and adulthood. Ties with the home town are frequently broken for ever.

On the other hand, "community" college is also a rite of passage for those still living at home. It's just slightly different. Ties with the home town are frequently preserved.

You can't have everything both ways.

 

[sophie]

Also at some point in your life (unless you want to live with your parents forever) you are going to have to go out and live on your own. In the time before you get settled into a career (not a job, mind) that is going to involve sharing an apartment, and possibly a room with somebody else, and odds are, you aren't going to know that person. Again, wouldn't you prefer to learn how to do that in a relatively controlled environment (as in you can complain to your RA/housing administration and get him/yourself relocated elsewhere if the guy is particularly a douche), rather than out in the wide world where nobody is going to care if your roommate refuses to do the dishes for 2 months?

 

[Borachio]

Nah! This is just middle class stuff. What's it got to do with the real world?

 

[holy king]

but how are you going to learn how to get your roommate to do the dishes if you can go complain to uncle housing administrator?

 

[Borachio]

Look...look...smash the dirty dishes! Right? Eat your dinner out of pan. Or tin.

 

[ace99]

When I went to University I didn't stay in res./a dorm for the reasons you cite - it's expensive, and while it leads to much partying and sexual activities, me and a buddy of mine rented out an apartment on our own.. saved a lot of money, cooked for ourselves, and ended up with a much nicer apartment than what you would get at a dorm/res type place that's affiliated with the university you're going to.

I rent a 4 bedroom townhouse in a gated community with 3 other grad students, its a pretty sweet deal comes with a swimming poo, tennis court and clubhouse. Much better than the dorms and the rent is really reasonable when split between the 4 of us. Just because you move out doesn't mean you have to live in a crappy place.

In fact if you can get 8 or 10 friends together there are mansions available for rent these days in the suburbs and each of you would only be paying a small part of it. I just recently saw a 10 bedroom Tudor style mansion for rent to students. The weak housing market has really been a blessing for students.