So this is the reason so many people have harsh feelings towards conservative Christians like myself? This almost convinces me to do a complete 180 on my religious and political views... Does anybody know any one like this in person? To make a discussion out of this thread, how would you respond to someone like that if you did talk to them in person?
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=56552
Please don't stop being a Christian. What this guy posted is such crap, I'm going to refute it despite having ZERO credentials whatsoever.
The "thou shalt not kill" LIE !!!
One of the things politically correct feminist child raping hippie democrats have tried to do is twisting the Holy Bible by pointing to Exodus 20:13 "thou shalt not kill" falsely claiming it means we are not allowed to kill people. This is utter nonsense. It just means we cannot go kill people at random. We can still kill plenty of people, just as long as we only kill people God's Holy Bible tells us to kill. And make no mistake, according to the Holy Bible 99.97% of all people should be killed!
Technically yes, "Thou Shall Not Murder" is what it says, and not "Thou shall not kill." Killing, in some cases, is acceptable. That said, his reasoning is flawed.
Sex with men, women or animals?
Someone raping a cow, even if it is just by accident? Time to blow them up: Leviticus 20:15-16. Someone cheating? Time to start the chainsaw: Leviticus 20:10. Someone sleeping with their mother, mother in law, son or son in law? Time to put fuel into that flame thrower: Leviticus 20:11, Leviticus 20:14 "they shall be burnt with fire".
Yes that was the law in Israel. Remember that God never said to implement this EVERYWHERE, only in the Holy Land. We are no longer bound by the Law in the New Covenant. Notice that all of these things are still wrong, but God never tells us to execute people for it. The Mosaic Law (The legal aspects of it), were for Israel specifically, it was a legal system, and because it was the Chosen Nation, they were required to have a stricter moral code. And I should probably note that there were STILL a lot of Libertarian things in the Mosaic Law.
http://www.holisticpolitics.org/
NOTE: I don't agree with everything this guy says, in fact, I probably disagree with almost half of it. However, he makes a lot of good points, and effectively crushes the "Kill all the Atheists and fornicators" theory.
If someone has ever, even if it is just once in their entire life, cursed against their father or mother, it's time to cut their throat and let them bleed to death! Leviticus 20:9 "every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death".
First of all, this guy is a moron, he wants to try to revolutionize the Bible's teaching without even realizing executions were done by STONING, not cutting throats (This guy is probably a secret Muslim...
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Second of all, this is another one of those "Criminal Penalty specifically for Israel" issues.
Third of all, he's misinterpreting it. Even in Israel, the following had to be the case before you stoned your children for rebellion:
18 If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, 19 then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, 20 and they shall say to the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard. 21 Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
I should note "A GLUTTON AND DRUNKARD, STUBBORN AND REBELLIOUS." Someone who was intentionally gluttonous and drunkenness would not be a little five year old child. It would most likely be someone in their late teens.
And even still, this was for Israel, to keep the land holy. Literally everyone believed in God. God isn't telling us to do that in a Secular Country.
Not a Christian?
Is someone an Atheist, vegetarian, Muslim, false Christian, Asian, Jew, Catholic or Democrat? You are not only allowed to kill them, God demands it from you! And please note it is explicitly allowed to kill women and children. So if an unborn child has not yet proven it's faith in Jesus, killing it is not just allowed, it is required! 2nd Chronicles 15:13 "should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman". A good way to do this is to kill them with a nuke a city at a time as demanded in Deuteronomy 13:15 "destroying it utterly".
I highlighted everything that is not even commanded in the Old Testament. First of all, God only allows us to eat meat, he doesn't command us too (As if, even if it were sin to not eat it, we were to execute all sinners... Total crap...)
As for Asians, how the crap does being Asian make you a criminal according to Mosaic Law? Especially since Israelites ARE ASIANS! IDIOT! (I'm obviously talking to the guy that made this post and not to you.)
Jews worship the same God we do, so they aren't commanded to be executed.
While there are no doubt a lot of false Christians in the Catholic Church (As with all Churches, and as this post is clearly showing, in the BAPTIST Church as well).
Also, it technically says "Worship other Gods." I guess its arguable whether Atheists would apply. (Its arguable that they technically worship themselves.)
However, that was all Israel anyway, and no longer applicable.
As for Democrats, what the crap do politics have to do with this?
It's obvious that God does not allow this: Deuteronomy 13:5 "that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death".
Its clear this is talking about false prophecy, otherwise Joseph would have been executed.
One of the biggest lies false Christians have been spreading is that most people will go to Heaven. This is not true! Actually it is the biggest lie ever! Almost everyone will go to Hell! Only a very small minority will be allowed in Heaven. Like everything else that matters in life, these facts can be found in the Holy Bible: Matthew 7:13-14 "few there be that find it".
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This much is true.
Also @Landover- You haven't found the way either, and whoever wrote this post, YOU have to repent. And YOU know the crap you are spouting is false, and so YOU will burn in a much deeper pit of Hell than an atheist or Muslim.
http://biblia.com/bible/nasb95/Luke 12.47-48
And YOU, Cranky Old Man, are one of the few people I honestly don't feel bad for whatsoever that is going to Eternal Damnation. Everyone deserves it, but for people like you, who KNOW the truth and throw it away, I can for once somewhat understand.
Also, about some of the other crap that's written on this sight, "Righteous," doesn't mean perfect. The morons of Landover, they cannot see the light. Their eyes are closed, and I don't think they can be opened. Better to just reject the Word of God then to twist it like they are doing...
The only good post on this site that I saw:
You, 'Cranky Old Man,' deserve YOURSELF to burn in hell, if you actually believe that this will help you get to 'heaven.'
Yeah, ignore all the crap this site is spouting, it makes people hate Christianity sure, but it makes ME hate it too, or at least, their version of it.
