If god was real, he would be a space alien

[Phlegmak]

So, if god was real, he'd be part of science, rather than the supernatural. If god was real, parts of him could be measured such as in his height, how loudly he can speak, what he looks like, and so on. It would be possible to build some device that could initiate communication with him, rather than wait for him to communicate with you. You could possibly build a vehicle to go see him in person.

All of this might make that particular alien very angry, if the events in the Bible are real, such as when he ordered Joshua to commit genocide multiple times.

Expected answers: You already can do all of those things! They're called prayer and dying! When you die, you'll see god!

Response: No, I'm talking about standing in the presence of this particular alien while still alive. And I'm talking about communicating with my voice, like the way I communicate with other humans.

So, if god were real, and the Bible was really his guidebook, then his control over Earth and his commandments would be best described as conquest by a space alien.

I think my religion teacher told me that if anyone sees the face of god, he immediately dies. Maybe my brother made that up, I don't remember. Let's pretend that was true. Well, that just means that humans can't stand in front of god unprotected. Humans would need some kind of protective suit to stand in front of god, look at him, and not die.

If god was real, it would be possible to one day build devices to rid Earth of its strangehold on our planet. It would possible to capture and control, and if necessary, to kill this creature. If Hell was real, it would be possible to learn how to free the souls unjustly imprisoned there and perhaps give them new bodies. If Satan is real, it would be possible to capture and destroy that creature.

If god was real, the ability of creation it has would be possible to discern and learn. Then humans can make a new universe free of its influence.

 

[PrincepsAmerica]

If god was real then and assuming the bible were truth as you seem to be, then he would be GOD. He never said he was anything else but the eternal source of all existence.

Now if you want to say he was lying or some crap then just throw the whole bible out because you can't pick and choose what parts are lie and what aren't.

This thread is pointless.

 

[warpus]

Why space alien? Why not planet alien?

Why not a dolphin?

 

[Phlegmak]

If god was real then and assuming the bible were truth as you seem to be, then he would be GOD. He never said he was anything else but the eternal source of all existence.

Now if you want to say he was lying or some crap then just throw the whole bible out because you can't pick and choose what parts are lie and what aren't.

This thread is pointless.

If god was real, then we haven't learned what he's made of yet, or where he lives. Once we learn that, then everything I said could be done.

 

[CartesianFart]

This thread is pointless.

when a thread start with a hypothetical "if" premiss presupposing something without any basis of facts is quite indeed pointless.

 

[Aramazd]

If God is real and the Bible real I don't see how you could get rid of him, since he's supposed to be omnipotent. So, he could defy science, but humans can't. Anyway, this thread fails.

 

[Winner]

I am sure Universe is full of God-like beings.

I mean, Universe is about 15 billion years old, it has trillions of galaxies. Many intelligent species could have evolved billions of years before Earth was even formed.

Imagine what humanity has achieved in mere 10,000 years. If we don't destroy ourselves, it is possible we will reach levels of technology which are now unimaginable.

If there are aliens billions of years older than we are, they must have God-like powers.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

How do we determine if a being can be called a god or not? What is the cutoff?

Also, warpus is right - a being that comes from another planet is no more from "outer space" as we are. Our view of "the earth" and "space; ie everything not the earth" is very parochial.

 

[Phlegmak]

If God is real and the Bible real I don't see how you could get rid of him, since he's supposed to be omnipotent. So, he could defy science, but humans can't. Anyway, this thread fails.

No, it just means that humans haven't discovered how god is omnipotent. And god wouldn't defy science, he'd be part of it. He would just have some abilities that humans can't comprehend yet.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Well, I do agree that the term "supernatural" is meaningless - not that I don't believe in things that others consider supernatural (as I do) but because I believe such things are within what can be described as nature. God is subject to laws just as we are, but a completely different set we have no way of determining.

 

[Phlegmak]

How do we determine if a being can be called a god or not? What is the cutoff?

That's definitely something I've been pondering for years. If some creature came to you, glowing, standing 100 feet tall or whatever, and said to you, "I am god!", how would you know that's really god? I have no good answer.

 

[silver 2039]

If god exists then I agree it would most likley be an alien of some sort with highly advanced technology which would give it supposed "godlike" powers. After all the Spanish were godlike to the Aztecs initially weren't they? They thought that they were Quezetcoatal because of the shining armor or something.

I imagine it would be something similar.

 

[PrincepsAmerica]

If god was real, then we haven't learned what he's made of yet, or where he lives. Once we learn that, then everything I said could be done.

He said it in the damn bible. He is who is. He is existence. He's not a contingent material creature from within the physical world.

As I said if you want to theorize that he is not this, then you are no longer talking about God and can no longer use the bible as a source because you are saying he lied in it. So seriously what else can be said?

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

After all the Spanish were godlike to the Aztecs initially weren't they? They thought that they were Quezetcoatal because of the shining armor or something.

If I recall my History of Mexico course, actually, no one really thought the Spaniards were returning gods; the story doesn't appear until about a generation after the conquest, and was probably an attempt to flatter one's overlords.

 

[warpus]

He said it in the damn bible. He is who is. He is existence. He's not a contingent material creature from within the physical world.

As I said if you want to theorize that he is not this, then you are no longer talking about God and can no longer use the bible as a source because you are saying he lied in it. So seriously what else can be said?

Well, maybe the Bible was written by humans and NOT God.. and at the same time maybe God exists anyway.

 

[Urederra]

To my friend Phlegmak, with love

 

[Phlegmak]

He said it in the damn bible. He is who is. He is existence. He's not a contingent material creature from within the physical world.

god said he was existance? You mean, that everything in the entire universe is actually part of his body? So when god sends human souls to Hell, he's sending a part of himself? If all of that is true, then damn, that's totally screwed up.

I'm not saying he's a material creature made of matter like you or I. He could be made of some other substance that we don't know yet.

As I said if you want to theorize that he is not this, then you are no longer talking about God and can no longer use the bible as a source because you are saying he lied in it. So seriously what else can be said?

Actually, the Bible is such a messed up book, that I think it really can't be used as a basis for belief or morals.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Actually, the Bible is such a messed up book, that I think it really can't be used as a basis for belief or morals.

You might not think it can, but millions of people do.

 

[Phlegmak]

You might not think it can, but millions of people do.

I know.

 

[MobBoss]

Why do atheists create so many threads about God? Guilty conscience maybe?