If you could witness any point in history...

Xen said:
IT MODERN LATIN- new ltters, such as J, and W have been added, after classic began to change in and aroudn the 4th century- get your facts right if your going to try to say i'm wrong, which in this case, i'm not. if you need more proof then just two letters, lower case letters did not exist in classic latin; they were an innovation added later, after the western empire had fell.

it's still the Latin alphabet, you keep trying to tell me i'm wrong and then say the same thing.... and trust me i'm quite aware of all those "interesting" facts you just pointed out

Xen said:
you said that our alpahbet is Greek, which was derived from phoenicans- that snot right, our alphabet is latin, derived from etruscans, derived from Phoenician; but that hardley means its still ANYTHING like Phoenicians, which woudl be closer to hebrew, or Aramaic- languages that arny even Indo-European

you're out and out lying... why don't you go back and read what i said.... i did not say our alphabet is Greek... i said our alphabet (the latin) is derived from Greek and Phoenician ultimately..... in fact i wonder what sort of historical comprehension you have if you think the Greek alphabet had no influence on the Latin... or maybe you forget that the Greeks colonized southern italy?

and as i have said all along, it was the alphabet that was derived.... i certainly don't need you to inform me that phoenician itself was a semitic language

you should lay off trying to be such a know-it-all ... you should be able to get your point across without trying to look smarter than everyone else
 
@Xen

i just looked at the Etruscan alphabet for 5 seconds :) it's a variant of the Greek... so the Etruscans borrowed their alphabet directly from the Greeks... so you are absolutely wrong in saying that Greek had no influence on the Latin alphabet... i would lay off the personal revisionism if i were you... it doesn't do you any credt
 
jonatas said:
it's still the Latin alphabet, you keep trying to tell me i'm wrong and then say the same thing.... and trust me i'm quite aware of all those "interesting" facts you just pointed out

linguists qould disagree with you; thats why thier are sub classifacations of latin; because while it has kept the same primary letters, it has been changed, and added to, creating distinctlly new enties, based upon previous developments


you're out and out lying... why don't you go back and read what i said.... i did not say our alphabet is Greek... i said our alphabet (the latin) is derived from Greek and Phoenician ultimately..... in fact i wonder what sort of historical comprehension you have if you think the Greek alphabet had no influence on the Latin... or maybe you forget that the Greeks colonized southern italy?

you didnt say that; you said that "our alphabet is derived from the Greek alphabet "; this implies a direct evolution from Greek, more along th elines of Cyrellic, then Latin; if you mean tlatin, you should say Latin. Though fo rmy part, I apologize for jumping to a conclusion; though you seerm to overlly tout the greeks importance in the development of our written script; Greeks may have colonized souther Italy, but the Etruscans and Phoecnais were direct neighbors from thie rmutual colonies on Corsica; and, obviouslly enough, early Roman culture for all intents an dpurposes is a subverity of Etruscan.

and as i have said all along, it was the alphabet that was derived.... i certainly don't need you to inform me that phoenician itself was a semitic language

you should lay off trying to be such a know-it-all ... you should be able to get your point across without trying to look smarter than everyone else

I'm in school right now; generally, when at home, i can more carefully think out my resposnses; in school, I have no alternative other then to be "quick, brutal, and to the point"; makes me seem like a jack ass, and a know it all, but somtimes, when you get the insperation for the facts in a retort, you have to go with the flow, at the expense, somtimes, of civility.
 
*Sigh*
@Hambabs- The Carthaginian are Semitic. They came from Phoenicia. They oppressed the native Numidians (who weren't really black either) and stole their land. They were tyrants, the same as Rome. Their mercy towards Tartessos is very much reminescent of the 3rd Punic War.

The Carthaginians were child-sacrificers. So what? There was nothing special about that. I reckon the Romans sacrificed around 100 people (adults) during the 2nd Punic War. Not to mention their practices of scourging and crucifying.

But don't pretend that Carthage was a victim of Rome. Hannibal's provocation of the 2nd War was entirely intentional, and if he had his way, Rome would have been the ones slaughtered by the hundred thousand in the streets.

It just so happened that whereas Carthage's government was corrupt and incompetent, the Roman government was dedicated and efficient, and that's what allowed them to win against Carthage's only advantage- Hannibal.
 
Now that I think of it... I guess there's nothing really important that I'd want to "see and die". A lot is avaliable on TV and with a good imagination you could get by without going to the past. But if I were to choose an exact place and time to go and live I would choose medieval Japan.
 
IglooDude said:
You know, that reminds me. One thing I'd like to witness in history is what the hell Pope Leo I said to Attila the Hun that made Attila pack up and head back north when Attila could have readily (and clearly had planned to) overrun and sack Rome.

He sang that song: "Stop!....In the name of love!"

:D
 
jonatas said:
i'm not sure what you're referring to, but just to clarify....

our alphabet is derived from the Greek alphabet which itself comes from the Phoenician alphabet, of whom coincidentally the Carthaginians were direct descendents i believe :)

Rome used it also, but indeed the origin is Greek.

In drawing Bab's attention to this fact, I was actually attacking his hatred of the entire white race.

PS
I would condemn a white man attacking black peoples with as much vigour!

:)
 
Xen said:
thats actually a pretty good one (not that others arnt good, but you have to admit, this one isnt huge or grand, but is rather simple, and easy to achieve, unless of course, his death is of old age, in which case, that woudl suck foir the ceating it part)

if i die of old age i'd be quite happy. possibly the best death one could hope for

But everyone gets a chance to witness their death and they never can cheat it.

if it's a natural death no i cannot cheat it, but if it's something like an accident, murder, disease, whatnot, then i will be able to avoid it.

seeing one's own death will make life that much more valuable
 
the building of the pyramids
 
battle of kursk

"quantity is its own quality" -stalin

one of the very few smart things he said
 
I'd bring a digital scanner to Alexandria and go to town in the Library. Stinkin' religious fanatics...grumble...
 
Jawz II said:
battle of kursk

"quantity is its own quality" -stalin

one of the very few smart things he said

"Gaiety is the most outstanding feature of the Soviet Union."

Is another - My goodness, I always thought those Guards regiments seemed so rugged!

:D
 
Jawz II said:
battle of kursk

"quantity is its own quality" -stalin

one of the very few smart things he said

On the contrary-Stalin was a source for wise, and true (yet terribly twisted) quotes.
 
RealGoober said:
The day that the first country (Netherlands I think) legalized Same-sex Marriage. THAT is what I would want to see, and, of course, I would want to actually be in the Parliament when it happened. History in the making.

Ok, important to me at least.

Oh God, you must be jealous!

On tuesday 12 september 2000, I was at our parliament. Well, not inside, but I was there. That day, the Second Chamber of the Estates General (congress-like) voted for the law that opened up the civilian marriage for people of the same gender.
I'll never forget the (about 50) people outside, demonstrating against it (really conservative people).
Now, I just happened to walk around during lunch break every day, but I did visit the parliamental buildings that day with a reason.
In the following winter, the justice minister (Job Cohen, today he is mayor of Amsterdam), got the adaption of this law through the First Chamber (senate) and in march 2001 it was signed by queen Beatrix. The new law became active on 1 april 2001.
The actual debate was on 5 september 2000, btw.

On a side note, I'd like to mention that Jan-Peter Balkenende, our current PM, who was an MP in 2000, voted against the change of the marriage law.
 
Witness 9/11 First hand amd dispell or vindicate cons[racy thoeries
 
nonconformist said:
On the contrary-Stalin was a source for wise, and true (yet terribly twisted) quotes.

no he wasnt

"1 death is tragedy, 1 million death is statistc"? my ass!

i think growing that mustasche drained too much energy from his brain, for him to come up with such nonsense(thats when he wasnt doing his best to lose the ww2 and interfere with the few generals he had left alive!!)

heck i can pull a few better ones outta my you-know-where right now, gimme about 10 seconds!


rilnator said:
You'd want to be watching it through binoculars.

I'd like to hang with the Beatles while they were recording the 'White Album'.

you hippies are no fun :D
 
~Corsair#01~ said:
Didn't that take centuries? Seems boring to me.

ok, I wouldn't watch every single work hour, but there are still things which couldn't be explained how they did it.
 
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