Congrats to everyone that won this map! I tried to level up to Immortal, but I think I chose wrong map for it. Spoiler : Reading your Imm games now, I think I did quite alright - except I shouldn't have settled 2nd city on the stone. Teched AH - TW - BW, built worker - warrior - settler @ size 3 but when settler was out, warrior was sent earlier to bust around the stone and settler followed him 1 turn before BW, so I didn't dare to send him north all alone to get copper. At turn 30 barbs were everywhere, tried to hurry another settler but then I realized capitol' borders will expand to copper even sooner - so I built like 12 warriors, they were dropping like flies. Teched Agri - Pott, but couldn't finish mining & connecting copper due to barbs. At turn 50 they pillaged everything while I managed to settle 2N of capitol and to finally get 1st axe. But by then I lost 8 warriors and stone city while killed 6 archers & 5 warriors I think. And then on top of that Wang built GWall. I hate quitting, but for first Immortal game that's a bit too bad start. No screens this time, I deleted everything instantly Are these "barb turns" standard on Immortal? At T30 animals are gone (or almost gone, but mostly replaced by regular units) and at T50 they're entering you borders?