Ailedhoo said:
I the chief representative of the Guardian Caste for this conference, Agnes Asker, hereby decree meeting with the Emperor of the Roman Empire.
the Emperor of the Roman Empire, Andreas I Laskaris, agrees to a meeting.
The meeting will forgo the petty illogical arguments that breaded war, such as that which threatened the territorial liberty of the Platonic Republic and leaded to questioning the prestige of the Roman Empire.
Fair enough.
For purpose we track to the following:
*The Romans are keen for Bulgaria, which the Platonic Republic has no interest to claim.
Yeah, but ill need to make sure it doesnt look like a ******** limb or something. would you give up your claim to Thessaloniki? that would make it look nice, to me.
*The Platonic Republic feels it should not have to pay for being sovereign; if the peoples of Athens do not want to be Roman then like the Scottish not wanting to be British we decree our status as such. However we have to remind the Romans that there are plenty of fish in the sea, for what the Greeks called Byzantine borders Bulgaria and one Greek province unclaimed (the one nearest to the west of Constantinople) will be considered, for this purpose, not part of Greece.
i suppose... that is an acceptable arrangement. one classical model of Greece, one Medieval Model. were there two Roman Empires, it would have been the same. the Italian one would have been classical, with legions and the like, and the Anatolian one is more like Byzantium.
(if you had joined as the Roman Empire in italy, i would have been far more willing to be nice to start with.)
*Anyway: the whole thing is we need to sign a Non-Aggression Pact with each other.
agreed.
*We can live in peace while we maintain Greece and start carving parts of Africa and the odd port in the Med while you can turn non-Greece Balkans (we are wondering whether to class Macedonia as Greek, for Plato's pupil did teach Alexander the Great), the Black Sea, Persia, much of Russia... heck you could march the way to Siberia, making you have claims over the land of the Third Rome. Of course that options depends on how you play with Moscow but in the end you need not need Greece.
actually, we are going to Claim Bulgaria, plus Thessaloniki, but little else on the mainland.. we dont wish to look bad on the map. (OOC: sorry, im slightly compulsive for that)
In the end war is illogical, unneeded, costly, unproductive, live taxing and denying the chance of a trade partner. We of Plato will even help you claim your old capital of Rome itself if need be but know that if you want to have glory then it is best to not class Greece as Roman, for we Greeks were at our best not as part of Rome but when we were in the classical era which we lived independent of foreign power.
Plato was not born of Rome but of Athens. Let our two civilizations live in peace so that we may share our cultures... even if we do at times mock each other. As two powers we can not be enemies but rather friends or better than that... allies.
now you are speaking more like my language. good job. we may live in peace, and in time, we will be allies.
we will split the meaning of Greek into two: Athenian Greece, who prefers to follow the classical model, with a decentralized government anmd polythesic model. sounds peaceful.
Turkish Greek: those who prefer the highly centralized and organized medieval model, to wit, the Roman Empire, with a monotheist religion. its not as peaceful, but the Turkish Greeks feel more secure with a strong Central government.
