Imperium OffTopicum XIV

[Mathalamus]

Andreas Laskaris of the Roman Empire is seriously miffed that the platonic Kingdom came into existence, thus destroying any reason for the Empire to expand its mainland. we intended to claim Greece and Bulgaria on the European side, after all... now we have no idea what to do. we'll just continue claiming, i guess.



(claims in blue. i cant claim all of Crimea cause it costs 1 and a half points, and i used three)

(OOC: come on Ailed... you seriously had to claim there? this is why i go crazy most games...)

 

[Ailedhoo]

The Platonic Republic will gently hope for good relations with the Eastern Roman Empire. We advise you join MECTU for we must trade well indeed!

 

[Mathalamus]

The Platonic Republic will gently hope for good relations with the Eastern Roman Empire. We advise you join MECTU for we must trade well indeed!

Wrong, again. its the Roman Empire. its not the eastern half of anything. especially because there's no western counterpart.

mind you, the organization of the Platonic Republic caused quite a stir in the Roman Empire, who claimed Greece as its core areas (because its obvious) so we cant do anything right now. protests are tricky to deal with. speaking of which:

protests in the Roman Empire

the organization of the Platonic Kingdom has made people, and all levels of the government angry at the Republic for daring to claim Roman Territory.

the Emperor is trying his best to deal with the protests in a non-violent way.

 

[Ailedhoo]

Wrong, again. its the Roman Empire. its not the eastern half of anything. especially because there's no western counterpart.

Did not the Constantine Roman Empire get revered to as a Eastern Roman Empire, yes?

That and the rumours of a Western Roman Republic...

OOC: ...if Terran decides to go that path...

IC:

mind you, the organization of the Platonic Republic caused quite a stir in the Roman Empire, who claimed Greece as its core areas (because its obvious) so we cant do anything right now. protests are tricky to deal with. speaking of which:

protests in the Roman Empire

the organization of the Platonic Kingdom has made people, and all levels of the government angry at the Republic for daring to claim Roman Territory.

the Emperor is trying his best to deal with the protests in a non-violent way.

The Platonic Republic is based in the homeland of Plato, who we based our government around.

We are however eager to help you; we can sent you copies of Plato's Republic in hope of spreading our ideas to make the protesters realise that hieratical harmony is a key in justice. Barring that we can sent a member of the guardian or philosopher caste, our ruling caste, to help mediate between the protestors and the imperial government of the Emperor.

Finally, we will call you just the Roman Empire if you call us by our proper name: the Platonic Republic.

 

[Thorvald of Lym]

New Rhodesia also seeks a non-aggression pact and trade deals with the United Kingdom of God, the Platonic Republic and the UAR.

The United Arab Republic is happy to establish trade relations with Rhodesia for needed goods. Given our geographic distance, we do not believe a non-aggression pact is necessary at this time.


Claims:

 

[Patchy]

The United Emirates of Casablanca and Gibraltar has created the International Fair Trade League which is a more global alternative to the MECTU as we are in a modern interconnected age.

We aim to serve as an open forum for international trade and issues caused by it. All are welcome to join.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?groupid=1043

 

[Ailedhoo]

The United Emirates of Casablanca and Gibraltar has created the International Fair Trade League which is a more global alternative to the MECTU as we are in a modern interconnected age.

We aim to serve as an open forum for international trade and issues caused by it. All are welcome to join.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/group.php?groupid=1043

We will join, although MACTU can have its purpose as a regional trade body, specialising on the issues of the Med.

 

[Mathalamus]

Did not the Constantine Roman Empire get revered to as a Eastern Roman Empire, yes?

That and the rumours of a Western Roman Republic...

OOC: ...if Terran decides to go that path...

he chose the path of the Prussian Nation.

The Platonic Republic is based in the homeland of Plato, who we based our government around.

We are however eager to help you; we can sent you copies of Plato's Republic in hope of spreading our ideas to make the protesters realise that hieratical harmony is a key in justice. Barring that we can sent a member of the guardian or philosopher caste, our ruling caste, to help mediate between the protestors and the imperial government of the Emperor.

Finally, we will call you just the Roman Empire if you call us by our proper name: the Platonic Republic.

most of the saner protestors want you to pay some kind of reparation for blocking Roman Expansion into Europe. the less sane ones... well, you know.

(we cant expand into Asia. Muslims dont want to be ruled by us.)

we will await word if the Platonic Republic will decide to compensate the Roman Empire.

 

[Patchy]

The United Emirates of Casablanca and Gibraltar celebrates the joining of the Oran emirate into the Union.

Claims:

 

[Ailedhoo]

he chose the path of the Prussian Nation.



most of the saner protestors want you to pay some kind of reparation for blocking Roman Expansion into Europe. the less sane ones... well, you know.

(we cant expand into Asia. Muslims dont want to be ruled by us.)

we will await word if the Platonic Republic will decide to compensate the Roman Empire.

...and why should a sovereign Platonic Republic 'compensate' for your imperial ambition? Greece is not Roman, for Italy has Rome and yet here you are in Turkey. Are you actually Roman? You are not in a position to threaten Athens, for Athens is not Rome. If your protesters are so deluded that they think otherwise then we offer to help establish a education system so they may know that Greece is Greek and the Greeks are currently the majority in the Platonic Republic.

What ever the case we are to announce our intentions to ally with the UAR for defence purposes in case of future threats.

That said we lay no claim to Bulgaria and do not mind the one province that is of Greece west of Byzantine (as it was called under the Greeks) to be Roman if for a buffer state for your capital.

 

[Thorvald of Lym]

Please leave Assad's beautiful moustache out of this.

he chose the path of the Prussian Nation.

Hey TE, dare you to rename it the Holy Roman Empire!

 

[Ailedhoo]

Please leave Assad's beautiful moustache out of this.

Hey TE, dare you to rename it the Holy Roman Empire!

Do it! Do it! Do it!

...to celebrate Thor's suggestion...


Link to video.

 

[Patchy]

...and why should a sovereign Platonic Republic 'compensate' for your imperial ambition? Greece is not Roman, for Italy has Rome and yet here you are in Turkey. Are you actually Roman? You are not in a position to threaten Athens, for Athens is not Rome. If your protesters are so deluded that they think otherwise then we offer to help establish a education system so they may know that Greece is Greek and the Greeks are currently the majority in the Platonic Republic.

What ever the case we are to announce our intentions to ally with the UAR for defence purposes in case of future threats.

That said we lay no claim to Bulgaria and do not mind the one province that is of Greece west of Byzantine (as it was called under the Greeks) to be Roman if for a buffer state for your capital.

From one turn one war to another. Ailed you do have a way with words.

 

[TheGryphonPrince]

The indo-persian kingdom declared it's intentions of annexing the persian gulf. After a small discussion in the senate, it received the approval of at least 77% of the senate. Those at the favour of it include that if the indo-persian kingdom has a monopoly on the persian gulf, it would bring favourable results to the economy. It also declared it's intentions of joining the IFTL and it sends ambassadors to Gangnam, Japan and Mongolia in order to discuss a regional trade union.

EDIT: And due to it's militia army, it starts spending more money in kicking some of the militias and building up a better, permanent army with better payments. As it expands and gains more trade areas, it will make more process. It also starts renewing it's navy.

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[Ailedhoo]

From one turn one war to another. Ailed you do have a way with words.

OOC: I am trying to avoid conflict.

Also note I am noting he can expand into Bulgaria; he had great concern about not being able to. The Black Sea could become a Roman "lake" in their nation...

 

[Patchy]

OOC: I am trying to avoid conflict.

Then I'd hate to see you trying to start a conflict. May I suggest getting rid of questioning his Roman heritage, calling his people deluded, and that condescending offer of starting a new education system.

 

[Ailedhoo]

Then I'd hate to see you trying to start a conflict. May I suggest getting rid of questioning his Roman heritage, calling his people deluded, and that condescending offer of starting a new education system.

We cannot critique?

Well... I guess we need to organise a conference. We request to the Emperor of the Roman Empire that the Platonic Republic sends members of the Guardian Class to conduct a conference with him in Byzantine/Constantinople. We must avoid conflict.

 

[W|M]

...and why should a sovereign Platonic Republic 'compensate' for your imperial ambition? Greece is not Roman, for Italy has Rome and yet here you are in Turkey. Are you actually Roman? You are not in a position to threaten Athens, for Athens is not Rome. If your protesters are so deluded that they think otherwise then we offer to help establish a education system so they may know that Greece is Greek and the Greeks are currently the majority in the Platonic Republic.

That said we lay no claim to Bulgaria and do not mind the one province that is of Greece west of Byzantine (as it was called under the Greeks) to be Roman if for a buffer state for your capital.

Greece has been Roman since the 2nd century BC, and Asia Minor has been Roman since the 1st century BC. The Roman Empire is not represented by a single ethnicity, it is an entity that transcends them. However, Greeks are an important part of this - The Roman Empire sees widespread use of the Greek language, and most Greeks think of themselves not as Greeks, but as Romans. The fact that the Roman Empire does not control any part of Italy matters not.

The first mention of a '''Byzantine'' Empire came in the 16th Century AD in Germany.

 

[Mathalamus]

...and why should a sovereign Platonic Republic 'compensate' for your imperial ambition? Greece is not Roman, for Italy has Rome and yet here you are in Turkey. Are you actually Roman? You are not in a position to threaten Athens, for Athens is not Rome. If your protesters are so deluded that they think otherwise then we offer to help establish a education system so they may know that Greece is Greek and the Greeks are currently the majority in the Platonic Republic.

are you... crazy? let me break this down.

1. the Roman Empire, that is, the one based from Constantinople is Greek. we always thought ourselves as Greek. and Roman.

2. you are insane. Three aircraft carriers, a modern military, and the fact that we simply outclass you in every aspect. AND we have a valid Casus Belli. Athens may not be Rome, but Greece Proper is an integral part of the Empire. we simply chose to claim turkey first, cause it was a perfect place to start.

(OOC: we assumed everyone knew that we were going to claim greece...)

 

[W|M]

Volga Federation claims in red: