In which countries have you been already?

Finland, Sweden, Estonia, England, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Italy.

And I'm going to sit in an airplane for the first time in *years* in three weeks and I'm afraid. It's was nice flying when I was younger, but now I prefer to travel by boat or train.
 
United States (33 States + DC): Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinios, Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey (Live), New Mexico, New York (Born), North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennesee, Texas, Utah, Virgina, Washington, West Virgina, Wisconsin, Wyoming

Canada (1 Province): Ontario

Living in North America makes it harder to visit alot of different nations. I just can't get across those oceans, yet. ;)
 
Here's my little list(I'm only 17 so i am excused I think)

Norway (Wich is where I have lived my entire life)
Sweden (Our friendly neighbors with cheaper food)
Denmark (Our friendly neighbors with cheaper booze)
Spain (Tourist mecca.. But I liked it anyway..)
Greece (Another tourist Mecca, but THE GIRLS!!)
Turkey(Friendly people who wants you to come to their resturant)
Cyprus (Friendly people and a nice place)

I guess everyone is friendly when you are Norwegian and look like you have a lot of money...


:evil:
 
Germany (live here)
Eastern Germany (back then)
Switzerland (lived there)
Austria
Italy
France
Belgium
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Danmark
Spain
Portugal
Yugoslavia
Greece
Czech Republic
Poland
Cuba
 
Originally posted by Smaasnekje
I guess everyone is friendly when you are Norwegian and look like you have a lot of money... :evil:
Nope, unless you wear a "Turbo Jugend Oslo" Jacket. :crazyeye:
 
England (i live there)
France ( calais)
Spain ( Ibiza)
Scotland ( to young to remember)

and thats it, i like Sunderland too much to leave. ive had the chance to go to mallorca and new york but i dont like to go abroad
 
Originally posted by emu
i like Sunderland too much to leave.

If only Kevin Phillips and/or Tomas Sorensen thought the same way :(
 
Only Canada, and the USA, but seeing as how they are the 2nd & 3rd largest countries in the world, respectively - and I have traveled all over them... I'd venture to say I've covered a lot more ground than those with the impressive lists of Euro countries, about all of which are smaller than my home state.

And if you want dangerous - go to Mexico. If you think the U.S. is 'dangerous' - you're going to the wrong places. There's a lot more than just N.Y.C. & L.A. :rolleyes:

"Hey! I've been to some big cities on the east & west coasts! I've seen America!"

-No, you haven't.
Meet me in the Colorado Rockies sometime, I'll show you America.
 
Originally posted by PantheraTigris2
Only Canada, and the USA, but seeing as how they are the 2nd & 3rd largest countries in the world, respectively - and I have traveled all over them... I'd venture to say I've covered a lot more ground than those with the impressive lists of Euro countries, about all of which are smaller than my home state.


Go see the rest of the world and open your eyes abit, sport.

It's not about distance covered but differences experienced.
 
Originally posted by Gainy bo


ROI = Republic of Ireland (the south)
NI = Northern Ireland (the north)

Two different countries...

Of course, Northern Ireland isn't a country in it's own right, it's part of the UK, along with England, Scotland and Wales.
"Ireland" is the correct name for the 26-county state commonly referred to as the Republic of Ireland. Confusing, eh?:confused:
Although Republic of Ireland, Irish Republic, Southern Ireland, ROI, etc are commonly used, that probably only upset us pedants. ;)

That's pedants, not peasants:lol:
 
Originally posted by warmonger


Go see the rest of the world and open your eyes abit, sport.

It's not about distance covered but differences experienced.

Traveling, for the sake of traveling - just so I can get a 'bragging list'. Hmmm, OK, just for the discussion, let's try to get PT2 out of North America... how are we going to do it...
First, I'm not really interested in being surrounded by a language I don't understand, so if we're talking about Europe, then let's go to the UK. Somewhere in England, I guess.

A.) Do I know anyone there? No.

B.) Would I be able to get around (with confidence), i.e., know what I'm doing, and how to get what I want/need. No.

C.) Would I be able to find work there? I have no idea. (Which usually means - Probably not)

D.) Do I really understand the local accent/dialect/lexicon, currency, history, culture, politics, etc., etc.? No. Not at all.

E.) Would this be expensive? Yes.

F.) Do I have any reason to be there? No.

G.) Would I be like a duck out of water there? Yes.

H.) Would people laugh at the way *I* talked? Probably.

I.) Would I even know they were making fun of me, based on what they said, and how they said it? No. (Refer to D.)

J.) Do I have any businesss being in England? No.

K.) Would I get lost as soon as I disembarked the plane? Yes.

L.) Could I figure out how they drive there? I'd be surprised if I could.

M.) Would I get ripped off, tricked, etc., by people that realized I didn't know where the heck I was, and had no clue why I was there? Of course.

N.) Would I understand the metric system that would be everywhere? Not really.

O.) Would I have the slightest idea about British laws? No.

P.) Would I therefore accidently/unknowingly do something illegal, and be thrown in jail, not know how to get help for myself, and spend the rest of my natural life incarcerated, in some dungeon? Very likely. (This goes back to D.)

Q.) Would they feed me in prison, since no one there knows me, and would bring me food? (Hey, in Egypt, you DIE if no one brings you food while your in prison, and they can hold you indefinitely, for whatever reason! - yay! let's go to Egypt, too!) Aaah!

R.) Would I ever fit in, in some foreign place? Not really.

S.) Would I be scared, miserable, and helpless, living homeless on the street, begging for 'shillings' - or something, slowly dying of starvation... unable to return to my homeland, the land of plenty, freedom, & opportunity, etc.? Ohhh, the pain. Just shoot me, please. Have mercy, good 'chap'. Put this 'bloody' 'yank' out of his horrible misery, please!

T.) Would I know what the hell I was doing in England? Are there all kinds of little things that I don't know about the customs of the country, that would make me have to learn the wolrd all over again, as if I was a little baby again? Yes.

U.) Is all this worth it, just t see A big clock tower, and a drawbridge? No.

V.) Would I be confused by just about everything around me, everything I saw, at all times? Yes.

W.) Would I be able to put up with CurtSibling? No.

X.) Would I know anything about the European economy, how to find a good job, how to invest, what companies are there, etc., and billions of other questions I don't have the answers to? No, how could I.

Y.) Would I, in desperation, try to swin back to the U.S., if I had no other way but that, or die trying? Yes.

Z.) Would the English women be intersted in me? Not if I was broke, unemployed, clueless, in prison all the time for breaking laws I don't know about, homeless, etc.

A2.) Would I feel like I was an alien, on a different planet, like from around Alpha Centauri? Yes. E.T. phone home!

B2.) Am I going to really repeat the whole alphabet? No.

C2.) Do you get my point? I hope so.

D2.) Are there 10 billion more things I could list, if I wasn't getting tired of typing? Yes.

...but,
the final question:
E2.) Would I, if I was still in active duty, go over there with my fellow American service members, if there was a war, ass to kick, etc.? Absolutely! But then we'll come right back home, because I have no business being over there. It's a different... everything. No thanks.

My home is here, and the only way that will change, is if things get intolerable. But, as it would turn out - I have it better here than I would anywhere else. Plus, I know this place. I know how to talk to the people, find jobs, get around, do stuff, fit in, get what I need/want, family is here, friends are here, everything I know is here. Everything I DON'T know... is there. So WHY would I want to go there? Eh? I'd be at the mercy of a people that I don't know anything about, other than that they don't like Americans anyway! So, as they say in New York... fergedda 'baut et. I'm staying here, where it's SAFE!
 
I had no idea England was so perilous. No wonder you Americans need such a big army.
 
Originally posted by PantheraTigris2

My home is here, and the only way that will change, is if things get intolerable. But, as it would turn out - I have it better here than I would anywhere else. Plus, I know this place. I know how to talk to the people, find jobs, get around, do stuff, fit in, get what I need/want, family is here, friends are here, everything I know is here. Everything I DON'T know... is there. So WHY would I want to go there? Eh? I'd be at the mercy of a people that I don't know anything about, other than that they don't like Americans anyway! So, as they say in New York... fergedda 'baut et. I'm staying here, where it's SAFE!


But how do you know that you have it better where you are if the only alternative you have seen is Canada.

The 30 reasons you give not to go are exactly the reasons why I like to go. (except getting along with curt of course)

I've been held at gunpoint at the West bank Jordon border - I've been placed under house arrest in Saudi Arabia (on a stop over that I didn't even list on my places been to). It's all part of the excitement of seeing the good parts of all the rest of the world.

Doesn't matter if you can't speak the language - hell, I still only speak english after doing this for 20 years - getting lost is part of the fun.

Get out there and you'll start to see that your little paradise ain't so grand after all.
 
@Panthera Tigris - I think your fears are overblown. Traveling to England is not that much different than being a Minnesotan in Texas or visa versa. I have done both and enjoyed both. It is good to be in other countries, it helps to gain perspective on both the similarities and differences between people. It also helps people on both ends to see beyond each others stereotypes.

That said there is no shame in being a home-body if that is what you prefer, especially with this internet thing that allows us to talk to each other without leaving home.
 
Originally posted by warmonger


I've been held at gunpoint at the West bank Jordon border - I've been placed under house arrest in Saudi Arabia (on a stop over that I didn't even list on my places been to). It's all part of the excitement of seeing the good parts of all the rest of the world.

Doesn't matter if you can't speak the language - hell, I still only speak english after doing this for 20 years - getting lost is part of the fun.

AAaaaghh!! That's it! I've heard enough! The terror! The horror! The madness! My worst fears confirmed! I'm not so sure I should be talking to strange, foreign Swiss people like this! Good luck tackling the treacherous unkown barbaric world, warmonger! I don't trust it, of any of those people! Heck, in the U.S., I have to always be watching out for myself - but at least here, I know how! I will NOT subject myself to some strange, unkown, far away place! No way! I don't need to see the ancient Egyptian pyramids! They're surrounded by terrorists & land mines, you know! That is, even if you make there alive, without your airplane being sacrificed in the name of Allah! There's nothing but pain, suffering, and death out there! Stay away from your travel agent!

Get away! Get away! :eek:
 
Originally posted by PantheraTigris2


AAaaaghh!! That's it! I've heard enough! The terror! The horror! The madness! My worst fears confirmed! I'm not so sure I should be talking to strange, foreign Swiss people like this! Good luck tackling the treacherous unkown barbaric world, warmonger! I don't trust it, of any of those people! Heck, in the U.S., I have to always be watching out for myself - but at least here, I know how! I will NOT subject myself to some strange, unkown, far away place! No way! I don't need to see the ancient Egyptian pyramids! They're surrounded by terrorists & land mines, you know! That is, even if you make there alive, without your airplane being sacrificed in the name of Allah! There's nothing but pain, suffering, and death out there! Stay away from your travel agent!

Get away! Get away! :eek:

A) I'm not Swiss - I just happen to live there.
b) I survived having the Uzi shoved in my back - and whilst I was nervous, I knew i wasn't in any serious danger so long as I didn't do anything stupid.

The two places in the world where I felt most "in danger" were New York in the mid 80's and San Fransico where I took a wrong turn and ended up in a "bad neighbourhood"

I've been to all sorts of different countries. How do you know that you live in a piece of paradise if you have little to compare it to.

I can happily say that I come from one of the two best places in the world to live and i now live in the other and a person who has had little experience of alternatives cannot argue with any credibility.

PS Can't continue the debate - I've got a plane to catch. Off to London for the weekend then down to Cannes for a few days next week.
 
PT2, are you being cynical? Or are you really that ignorant?

I will tell you something about North-Western Europe:
-We all do speak English
-You don't need a job during a vacation
-When having an IQ of 80 or higher, you won't get lost when disembarking the plane
-Statistics show that the EU countries are safer than the US
-We do have hot running water.......
 
Originally posted by willemvanoranje
You guys don't even live that far from each other. Hamburg <---> Bremen. Hitro, I'm just asuming you're from close to Bremen here, for obvious reasons. Eventhough your location does make me think of the Lüneburger Heide...or something like that. :D
Assuming? :confused:

After all that time and all those threads you should know that I'm not just from "close to" Bremen. :p
 
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