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inevitably r16 comments on the Turkish Elections

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by r16, Jun 25, 2018.

  1. r16

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    well , must both keep this thread alive in some sort of a way as ı would be more horrible to bring up next year , or make a note that we are living through the coronavirus thing and my last post here was 5 days before it was declared a pandemic and the first case in New Turkey was declared only 2 hours after , as this youth in the street firmly believed as he was telling his friend that lMF was supposed to distribute free money . Or maybe it is just the right place to tell how the Opposition municipalities were banned to have donation campaigns or distribute free masks or have bread trucks to distribute during the curfew . Or how the one in Adana had converted a convention center into a temporary "field hospital" and Ankara had no information on that and on the day it was shown on an Opposition channel , officials came and locked down the place , the whole wax seal at the door thing ...

    instead , due to the damned tablet which certainly limits my ranting to the thread standarts , ı will have this Malcolm X thing . Perhaps due to our lmperial Ottoman past or maybe we are falsely taking ourselves to be White or the thing that he was a terrorist or something to the dearest American Goverments we didn't hear that much about him , but ı take he is quite important to wider lslamic world . Another curse of the tablet is ı can surf this site at home and go into threads ı wouldn't at the webcafe where the time is indeed money . Hence ı forgot where ı saw this anyhow . That the success of Martin Luther King depended so much on X and his ability to make blood run knee deep in the ghettos . Without insulting anyone , historical or current they did indeed work in tandem , but under US Goverment supervision and control . Dating back to Eisenhower telling the Klan that the Blacks were loyal as any White and they would be 100% like any of Whites were in the stuff of American citizenship and there was not a single grumbling . True , there would be hotheads and rebels , if you will , but as Johnson threatened the Governor or whatever of Alabama or maybe some other State's person with a death squad ditching the latter by the roadside there wasn't that much of an issue that was unsolvable . The Reverend was a consummate politician , X provided a counterfoil or whatever to see . To lead the general American Public to fear the Commies landing by a thousand rubber boats and infiltrating Black Neighbourhoods . Negative ? You would be wrong , gotta see documentaries and stuff to see how much they had to cover back in the days . More negative about Malcolm ? Again wrong , when he joined the Nation of lslam he knew it was a scam , he would make his living in a more tolerable way . His opponents will of course say he grew too big for his boots . Though the biopic does quite a good job of hinting about him discovering that they had the power to do good , without damaging the moneyflow to the coffers of that Elijah person . Honour can be debated , what we make of it and what we expect from others with regards to it , but Malcolm would have a code of conduct even as a street criminal and a man cared for his woman , well before he was sent to jail as Little or whatever ... So the guy leaves for a pilgrimage and is treated like Royalty in the immediate post colonial Africa and he is still not a threat to America . But sees some true blue eyed devils somewhere along the way and that he will have so much less people in his congregation and it will be an uphill battle with the Nation of lslam firebombing like every year , but he can do it , he can fix the radicality he was the posterchild of . That's why Washington chose him die . Malcolm X by the window with the carbine in his hand was no threat to the system .
     
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    coup talks in the air once again . Opposition naturally says the economy and the country is a total mess and it is all about distractions . One could say 3 people have received death threats , visibly , from official officials of the ruling two parties . A TV host was suggested he should consider his corpse burned , after suggesting the Religious Authority is a such a nice thing it should be only funded from the taxes of those who go to mosques . This from the almost racists . Party person suggested the waters of Bosphorus are deep and also cold this time of the year , targeting the lstanbul chief of CHP for her remarks on the unlicensed building stuff belonging to the media advisor of the PM . This is one those who speak English , in addition to Arabic . Nothing particularly important a deal , had had a garden re-arrangement next door to his house . Photographing his house is of course making a target for anarchists . When the narrative is they are the only honest people in the country or , well , the PM is infallible , they will next strive to prevent any discussion on how it is PM's assistants who fail . The third , threatened by some guy on the web is a deputy president or whatever of CHP . For telling Goverment officials of all stripes that change is in the air and they should remember the laws , because there is going to be a reckoning , without any describing of how and what , and this is rather obvious , now that all the corruption affairs will be discovered ... To be described as a call for a coup . Not that they did manage to do it , but people have been tried in this country for trying to defeat the PM in elections , or something ; they might have yet failed to send people to jail for this crime . More likely a selective reading of the charges , possibly ... Laws have been the bane of A-K-P , there have been regular calls from the Party officials to the State personnel to ignore the laws if they hinder "services" to the public .

    naturally to be topped , easily , by the cultured elites of New Turkey . Some presenter ı don't ever watch , but she has a segment on some channel ı surf across at times . She has a female guest who says they weren't satisfied with the Disgrace of July 15th , they are fully equipped and ready and her family can kill 50 easily , while she has a list of her own , her neighbours she will kill during the disturbances and defeat of the coup attempt . No , you can really understand that she means that "for real" .The host calls the Opposition as 4 legged , hence animals , tells them to behave . Americans stuck with their own stuff might fail to notice the New Turkey does not intend to fight , but imagines even if everything went down to pieces , 82nd and 101st will save them . Not that Opposition is that much better , but hey , we all know who has American backing , right ?

    as an example to the Opposition standarts , the example will be this guy who has been hosting his own show like for 26 or 30 years . ı used to watch when ı was like 30 years younger , but you can see missing parts when you are familiar with the subject matter at hand . Will not question his political analysis , but he doesn't know that much about bombing warships with jets . The own goal of D-354 Kocatepe in 1974 is a regular thing in Turkey , the now dead Navy and the now dead Airforce refight the engagement come every July . He and his host were discussing something else and it just "came up" ... See , the American plot to have the now dead Army to land and get surprised and get defeated , because we wouldn't be Red anyhow and establish a Kurdish Nation State for profitable action in the Middle East was barely stopped . lnvolved killing Greek commandos and stuff . So , Ankara naturally discovered there was a Greek convoy steaming to Cyprus , bringing reinforcements , except there wasn't and they might have ran into an American destroyer , too . So , ignoring all , a joint operation is planned . Air strikes first , softens up , ships arrive and sink everything that floats . There is an horizontal line drawn from the harbour in Baf on Cyprus , ships will remain North of that line during the aerial attacks , except they do not . Haze and regular warnings that they are attacking Turkish ships and jets attack . They will fail to sink the ship and there will be two more attacks during the day and they didn't see the ship sinking despite the almost real time connections between the respective commanders . Fit to be in a movie with Navy screaming they are under attack and Airforce sending planes to protect the ships and still attacking , too . Depending on who is talking , the blame shifts . The guest was a pilot at the time , so , it is the fault of the Navy Commander who authorised the attack with clear assurances that the ships were North of the line and everything South was enemy . Was taped by the Air commander , because American experience in Vietnam suggested Sony tape-recorders were awesome for de-briefing purposes . The tapes conveniently ignoring the ships were like handed sealed envelopes before the whole Cyprus clashes began and they were to sweep South and the Navy Commander could do nothing about it (done behind his back) and he was finally killed by Marxist terrorists 20 years later anyhow . But , it is merely background . The commander of the sunk ship was the Navy Commander it 1996 when the lslamist Goverment was told to leave , so he wasn't punished , and you can imagine from the rolling eyes that it happened only because he was a closet Jew , long running story from 1600s . You see , when the Party is tetering , Opposition must remember closet Jews , so that there will be so much talk of backstabbing and they should never trust anyone .

    a little more on the guest . An interceptor pilot at the time , rising to become the intelligence chief of the now dead airforce by the 1990s , he naturally believes in UFOs , does a rather poor job of describing Stealth , claims the American F-117 shot down in 1999 was due to a Greek major in Nato headquarters . Having just checked a modelling site where they had a "What if" F-102 used as a training plane for Stealth fighters ı wasn't that impressed by his comparision of his former mount with the F-117 . And yes , will become known that he was there defending the country against aerial incursions as jets attacking the ships were returning in ones and twos . Silly r16 commentary . Not to be noticed by anyone , now that his real fame out of that show seems to be when Congregation gained access to highly secret archives during coup investigations of 2000s and "stole and sold" 1,5 terabytes of data , the fallout was used by enemies to kill like 848 agents of the country at home or abroad . Which is denied by the people who had to accept the court orders and turnover the keys and stuff . Am pretty sure he had the same jovial face when discussing that , because ı missed those parts entirely .
     
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    ı hate America .
    not necessary to read the linked post , it involves me being unimportant .

    and that ı have no "nice" name for Twitter unlike Zuckerberg's mighty glorious creation has been hurting me for ages . lt is a thing about being inspired .The point being news that Twitter has identified 7340 accounts as Party operatives , having 37 million messages between them since the 2018 elections . Why now and say , not next week ? My rant was more about my limited stuff , kind of places where people would discover monkeyness of the laughed could lead to seizures . Like who would believe a whole series of late 20th century lightweights came to life to get this oft reported bounty of Kaddafi buying some for other countries for fame and influence . ltalian AMX lost the A/B and a better engine because it could be a Libyan thing and Kaddafi had lots of swings of mood , Northrop's 5G/20 was where it started anyhow , Yugoslavs jumped onto the bandwagon with the Novi Avion , Olof Palme was most unhappy on British pressure on SAAB to do the Gripen , though it was too late by the time he was shot dead , no need to get into trouble with the lndians now that their Tejas can be argued as a direct response for any Pakistani purchase and that the delays only prove it is not that much desirable . Even the finest of the lot with regards to lunacy of the feeding frenzy , Lavi of lsrael ... Unable to be worked on during the 1970s because France was embargoing lsrael and delivering Kfir and made irrelevant in its only value of making Turkey an active participant in Middle East wars by the never ending lraq-lran war and the choice of the Electric Jet for coproduction in Ankara ... lt has at least been a proof of concept phase for the Chinese J-10 . And yeah , the Swedish were more thinking about the Electric Wedge size with Russian type inlet blockers while on the ground . Only as a thing about why London had not totally briefed its various ranges of company trolls on how they were to convince people of their greatness and stuff . All powerful New Turkey , its planned anti-Turkish drone fleet getting so large that it is not entirely feasible for them to be knocked out if New Turkey was to fall and becoming instruments of the Republic instead .

    and ı have no idea when ı designed a Stealth plane , either .

    the hostile talk against Twitter that it should remember the fate of those who acted against New Turkey has confused some in the media . New Turkey is referencing to how they made Twitter pay taxes and show some fake respect to New Turkey with a promise or two about following the laws and stuff . Some forum that stopped some company troll and has not yet recovered is London's choice ; and New Turkey is ever victories , because it is some bicycle like thing , they will fall if they stop . Twitter banning PM's men changes nothing in your life or mine , but the notion that anyone could dare challenge New Turkey is not palatable for New Turkey at all . lt has to win or look like winning always ...

    hard to believe at times . Mosques have their sound systems for the call to prayers and they are shut off most of the day , so like naturally they are hacked or something because the country is told so , to play that ltalian partizan song of Ciao Bella . The faithless infidels attacking lslam , because no one understands why there would be any need to do so leads to attacks on churches in the country . Leads to Greeks attacking mosques , preparing the venue for "liberating" Ayasofya . There was a meteor affair 12 or so hours before prayers involving , so it has been a rather low key thing . Not victory enough so suddenly a desire to fully convert it into a mosque , despite there is an adjacent section that serves as one since the 1990s , because Left would oppose and that would be the chance to paint them as godless . No opposition from the Opposition , and calls to do it at once ! So , we hear there is a court case and it will decide in early July , because you know New Turkey always respects the Law and never changes the judges if they do not follow the orders of the palace and the Goverment . Naturally the right time for some Opposition person to talk about the historic legacy of Ayasofya and how Sultanahmet Mosque , nearby and built in the 1600s as a bigger form of the same could also be considered a world heritage site . This Opposition MP is a proffessor of Constitution so his words are well measured , they do not directly say CHP would make Sultanahmet a museum ... lt is always this New Turkey will never lose , if trounced by the Opposition calls to "open Ayasofya NOW!" there will be someone to "hurt" the public to maintain the "power" of New Turkey . lmagine Biden caught with an underage boy on October 15th , enough time for Fox to fill the blanks ... Ah yes , the probability of Trump losing in November making it likely for New Turkey to ask for elections early , perhaps on August 30th ...


    edit : As the UK leads a soft approach to New Turkey , because New Turkey thinks the world of itself and is fully ready to start a global war as soon as it is cleared to do so , because there are MiGs in Libya and as if it wasn't seen so many times before that crisis breeds sudden ineptitude , people versed in English suddenly discover they can understand me and call for supression , through the same channels , too . Guess this is now related to Russian covering up of J-10 using non-Lavi software then ? Or teaching their places to spammerrrrrr loserrrrrrs ? How sad that ı can't save my own posts , they are always instrumental to remember . Would be saved elsewhere you know , and strangely it says you can't instead of it is deleted ?
     
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    warning : Coronavirus issues make me use a tablet on which ı forgot what ı had already written ...

    ı imagine a Biden Presidency is considered inevitable . Accordingly there was this thing : Person A , for this post only , an ex-almost racist columnist who had cast his lot with the Congregation or rather some guy who wasn't as flexible his former compatriots . There's a Person B , like highest ranking Congregation type and he even fails the litmus test of abandoning them and joining Party after Dec 17-25 Affair ad he says this or that is Congregation because he would know . Those newly discovered Congregation members are always enemies of the Party and in the limelight and popular . B is out , why A is in ? A question hard to answer . So , the leader of the almost racists declare his case should be reconsidered , because Person A's younger brother was killed by the Leftists before the 1980 coup . Because this is all it will take , even if found guilty and the decision is supposed to be proof against any appeal , New Turkey is flexible , will find something . Should create a basis for eventual release of a few Congregation people from the jails , as anyone opposing the Party will vehemently believe Congregation and the Party were seriously the same ... Accordingly half of the "current journalists in jail" are released , because Party deems it necessary to show it as a justice for all thing instead of amnesty for Party Congregation . Then the news that apparently Zekeriya Öz went to a restaurant in the US . He is an hero , number one hero of the Congregation , district attorney type who ran the Ergenekon Conspiracy , he was going to be the first to have his statue . And somebody rose up from a table and placed a fist on the face of Öz . Can never tell ; might be a Party rumour made up here to prove they are still against the Congregation / Could have sunk the peace deal between New Turkey and Congregation after Öz called here and defined his former colloagues as gays .


    you gotta remember New Turkey believes they bought Trump and New America , while Congregation was down to lobbying the Democrats . Would only lead to New Turkey making haste to bolster its hold on the country .

    "current journalists in jail" were 6 , accused of divulging state secrets with regards to Libya . Everybody knows it is about two books . Of the pair of authors writing one , the release ratio is fifty percent . The single author of the second book is in jail . The books are naturally about how the Party follows its programme of destroying the Republic . The other 3 journalists were cover , some NCO (with a known history of mental issues) calls one and tells he has documents . After a certain range of experiences the journalists refused to bite , but anyhow . The destruction of the Republic was to made palatable with oil . Iraq fell by the wayside as Kurds were kindly driven out by the Shia . A conquest of Syria is still awaited . Egypt would be taken over by proxy and we would have to agree to becoming Arabs because they had so much gas under the Med . You can NOT have gas without respecting Mursi , man ! We are now like hearing stuff about war between Sisi and the PM so , it had to be Libya . Now that they can not handle the oil sales in the name of brotherly Libyan people as the oilfields were "told" to stop working , the thing was covered by the thing about creating maritime borders that makes it impossible to have a pipeline from Israel to Italy .

    of course Israel and Italy were on the news for supporting New Turkey , when the ceasefire deal in Moscow about Syria made it look like New Turkey could falter . Yes , you are stupid for failing to understand their motives when they should have been overjoyed at this "defeat" of New Turkey . Greeks of course do not fight , UAE can always replace the equipment it lost to a yet another superlative drone victory of New Turkey , Egypt can also talk tough . Hafter's dead people ? Like as if anyone has ever cared for dead Arabs ... So , the former chief of goverment generals and the secretary for defence in the palace cabinet visits Libya , while the PM was apparently in Qatar for talks for a ground offensive and total victory one can imagine Reuters reports that a Hawk SAM launcher was destroyed by unknown planes in Libya and yet other unknown planes supposedly bombed a base for UAE and so on .

    as you can go to jail with any news that the Army of Petrol doesn't totally awesomely and utterly dominate Libya it of course falls to social media to bear them bad news . Of course already mentioned in CFC that they are going to get new controls and stuff anyhow . The reasons are debated ? Some say it was some PM speech that got more dislikes than it got likes . There are bots to fight that ! Netflix gets more viewers than Abdülhamid the wise and last true sultan of Ottomans and whose example is keenly followed by PM ? Just a thing for increased revenues : fake economy is fake and The City in London will demand payments right on time . Controlling Free Speech with a threat to slow down internet services from 100% speed by 95% to 5% ? When they do not provide the names of people on social media who rant against New Turkey ? Twitter is not in China , will not sink or something if it is not here , either . Apparently the Troll Army of the Party can not be everywhere .

    of course things would be heard . And hearing things help to solve the mysteries . Like how the secretary of internal affairs of the palace cabinet can be rumoured to have punched the son-in-law of the PM and not arrested as Congregation . Now that there is this famous footage of him siding with the Congregation against the PM in 2013 . Turns out there have been rumours of the son-in-law of the PM cheating on the daughter of the PM , with the PM punching his son-in-law in a cabinet meeting . His happy-together-moment after the birth of his 4th child also marred by some jerk who insulted them . You know , in New Turkey where there is no online anonymity whatsoever because insulting the PM is the only crime that the Justice System gives priority to . Immediately providing another reason why the internet and the social media must be controlled . Like 7 million of Generation Z coming , man , they are some bunch of jerks who fail to be impressed with how there were no refrigerators in the country before 2002 . This is actual Election campaigning point and you people were like calling me an idiot , before Trump came and proved it to your puny Western minds that such stuff were indeed possible and much liked by their intented audiences . That my family has always had one (at least for the years ı have been around) only proves that we brought our fridge when emigrating from Bulgaria , like in 1972 . Otherwise we would be like Kemalist elites who denied anything to this country ... Generation Z have no memories of evil Kemalists betraying the country ever and ever , each and everyday , they are even prone to imagine betrayal lies elsewhere , so even Engin Ardıç has insulted them . This guy with the sharpest tongue against the Islamists of 1980s , getting death threats for exposing how some superbly Islamist book or something was prepared by people whose day job was copypasting Page 3 pictures to have a daily issue of legs and naked breasts , he of the conquests of anyone with breasts , now using his talents in the name of New Turkey . Don't know if he is still of the high living type ...

    of course the "Muslims" boast of how far sighted they are . Out of nothing , some guy in the mosques of Izmir forgets the sound system on and the Italian Partizan song "Ciao Bella" is played after some hacking . We have been assured it would have been quite impossible , unless the responsible parties allowed it to happen . Only reason for that system to exist is the calls to prayer , 5 times daily . Otherwise is closed down . After this insult to lslam , because you can always find idiots on the Left to brag about things they were told to do , we had some thunderous speeches on how lslam would rule the country forever , despite the Kemalists and Crusaders . So , some youth attacks some churches , some Greeks attack mosques in Cyprus and voila , New Turkey must open Ayasofya . Now the PM has always resisted opening the said to prayers , despite the fact that the museum has an extension (next to it where Muslims can pray since the 1990s) . Sultanahmet , the 6 minaret one in the city center is empty during morning prayers he says . Sultanahmet must be full before there is any need for Ayasofya . Then his mosque was opened , and the line became first Sultanahmet , second Çamlıca , third Ayasofya . A few people might remember r16 ranting against the Party media defining it as a "Sultan's mosque" . The resident Greek guy will of course immediately notice how New Turkey claims to have surprassed Byzantium . They would have surprassed Ottomans , too , had they either conqured Syria or become a federation with Mursi's Egypt . One reads it has a capacity of 63 000 people and has a following of either 6 / 5 to 15 prayers in the mornings .


    of course there is no point in opening Ayasofya , except as a sign of righting another Kemalist wrong . Also works for Greek designs who lost it as a church in 1453 and their revenge can only be complete if they can reconquer it as a mosque . We have some spectacular stuff , that Kemal was watching the development of monoplane fighters (of the Hurricane/Spitfire type) and was informed it was quite impossible to get them right way so the coming World War would be better if avoided and Greeks would ally with anyone as long as they could avenge 1922 and it was also nice trolling , to make it a museum . Of course you will have nothing of this sort on TV . All you get is a claim that Kemal was duped and was never aware that his signature was faked to make it a museum , because it became a museum in 34 and you could pray in it until 1935 ... Knowing the penchant of A-K-P being heroes and all , the Opposition actually called on a parliamentary vote to make Ayasofya a mosque . Suddenly we learned A-K-P had always followed court decisions . July 2 decision , which they are hiding until July 15th . Could be forgotten if there was victory in Libya . Can be done if there's no rabbit in the hat . To pull out as magick .
     
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    sure enough r16 the fool forgets the picture of the day at home ...

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    echo chambers and all . ı have taken to reading some famous social media thing and some top discussion was a proposal that the country should be ruled by civ players , some say they have maybe 1000 hours of gameplay and they are in , those who play paradox games (whatever they are) say they are smarter , well , some civ players are like high-achievers . Like who plays at deity ? Though it also leads to overblown things , ı am pretty sure it was the fault of the site that made the numbers higher in Ayasofya thread . The money confiscated from the Istanbul Metropolitan to pay off A-K-P era debts was 565 million liras , not dollars . Though , well , New Turkey would have loved to it in dollars . The proposal from the Greek MP has been to turn Atatürk's house into a brothel , and the there is solid agreement in the social media thing that New Turkey would wholly approve ...

    must have mentioned elsewhere that there are calls for people to login to social media with the equivalent of the social security number , so that the good old police wouldn't have too much trouble of finding trouble makers and also for the deterrent value . Because as ı was writing this ı could hear reports on how some advisor to the PM has been calling on the media to stop being dirt and support New Turkey in its righteous case ; now that ı wouldn't doubt that it is him who decides daily on what will be on the newspapers and the news for this oft qouted 95% of the media . Even the social media thing apparently has its handlers and whatnot , some truer looking people who challenge the "Muslims" and how New Turkey should at least be approved for the weapons it makes and heroism it shows in the name of the common interests of the country . In some place where sexual acts are wished for people , with you in CFC getting the drift , some discussion was even renamed into "claimed" killing of cadets on the Bosphorus bridge . Happening after the night of the Disgrace of July 15th and somewhat before this far better publicised thing

    [damned spot for the damned picture]

    some beardy cutting the throat of one or maybe two cadets who were unlucky enough to be taken direct to the bridge while other buses were intercepted by the Police and those in them were simply sacked . So , despite not taking part (as their ammunition were totally accounted for) some beardy comes and kills , because they will re-enact the Kubilay Affair and because they will get away this will prove times have passed . And they had their revenge ,because taking revenge is all they talk about because you would think Republic ever did something to them . But Menemen and purchasing one or two hashhash consumers must be avenged because Atatürk really intervened and prevented the razing of the town of Menemen as his attempts to multiparty stuff was conspiracy blocked again and only a few beardies were hanged .

    social media thing says it was a Syrian , which might then possibly explain why he tried to have the bodies thrown off the bridge , because it appears it's an ISIL thing to have sinners thrown down high places . He was blocked and some other beardy trying to save the wounded is the only picture you might ever see of the episode . Because beards do not make one an animal and there are so many animals without beards . Essentially why a blanket amnesty was declared for those who took part in the "suppression" of the coup attempt . Of course it is rather tasty , considering the veterans of the suppression have started to demonstrate against the Party . Because the PM's palace was the last target of coup attempt with like the last bomb falling out of the gates , because symbolisms , there's this monument on the location and people have tried to walk there . To protest at the very spot where probably no windows were broken in the palace and some of the civilians defending the palace were killed and it was an F-16 that dropped the bomb ... See , there was a massive donation campaign to support those who heroically faced the Congregation , because New Turkey does not exactly want to accept . That the victims of Ergenekon conspiracies gun battled in headquarters and all so that no communications could be dispatched over official channels to get the Army of Petrol (as it was already by then) to the streets . It's the civilians braving gunfire of -a miniscule part- of the Army of Petrol you saw on TV and keep hearing about . So , people have been donating some little amounts of money and it trickles into bigger numbers . Also a political investment and the practical replacement of Congregation's "himmet" . You own a company and want contracts ? Donate a serious amount to New Turkey's latest donation campaign ... The money went to a bank account and accrued interest for 3 years . Because it's a vulnerability for the Party , only 5% of the media kept harping and it took MPs personally investigating that a foundation has been set up to use the money and it seriously looks like fake and New Turkey has recently started giving some little amounts of money to certified "veterans" of the suppression . You know 1000 lira for starters and one other 1000 liras just before some will go to Ankara to demonstrate , so that they won't have extra supporters . Oh , ı know there are jerks who publish youtube videos of theirs asking for Congregation F-16s bomb them instead of the PM's palace, because they do NOT believe they can be tracked and like immediately bombed but PM will know them to be true supporters ... But , many of those civilians were (well indeed) supporters of New Turkey , they are like getting suspicious on how they got shot and the money donated for them has been put into useful use .

    and it might not exactly be a vulnerability either . As the social media thing can dig up stuff , with the PM giving some speech at the Police headquarters that was bombed , with a claimed 650 kilogram Helium Bomb . Everybody knows PM's speeches are painfully designed and he regularly uses teleprompters . The venue was where the highest single loss of life happened . The heavily armed SWAT (carefully nurtured by the right wing Goverments since the 1980s to a fight a "Kemalist" Turkish Army) struck by Congregation jet , with a nominally 500 lb HE bomb , growing to 650 pounds with the fins and guidance . Discredit the PM , at the hallowed grounds of the armed force he needs ? Because Congregation stay behinds ? ı still love to way ı learned the Georgetown University is the source of all evil in all the universe , because the woman who said George Orwell would give a standing ovation to the PM for the most impressive application of 1984 could not stand PM's advisor who is also a graduate of Georgetown ...

    remember Congregation having the best kids of the Right in this country ? Whole pages of discussions on how like all members of the social thing going to study centers and discovering something odd ... Everyone having a friend that opted to stay and hence become a Congregation asset , now either arrested or in exile or in high positions in New Turkey , denying they were ever Congregation ... Well , me being an idiot have saved me from such attentions , it seems , though ı can remember the guy ordering some other guy stop bullying me , must be 1988 , possibly because my distant relatives had promise to be high in the Golden Generation and the anger welling in my eyes might have created an impression that ı might very well remember the date and who was around . No , nobody has ever believed in the Starfleet .

    so much that the required dumbing down of the country has been matched by an even faster dumbing down of the Party . And the Party-State it wants to run . It seems it was said in 2015 that when there were 10 positions to fill in any Goverment post , the Congregation would come with a list of 50 names . Suitable to say the least , with some merely sent in to warm up because they were like superstars meant for much higher positions . It wouldn't last and the Party allied with more ordinary congregations and all of the ordinary ones could only offer 8 people for 10 openings . Only because Congregation and Party could no longer stand each other . Which happened because Obama rejected to allow the declaration of the Caliphate because the secret clauses of the Laussanne Treaty would become null and void on the 90th Anniversary of the same . Oh , there "are" those clauses that says England will protect the "Muslims" when they are destroying the Republic and somehow thay are always delayed by a decade as the end of treaty approaches . After New Turkey utterly failed to occupy Syria , the Congregation and stuff were offended and thought this was why Obama denied their Spritiual leader the right to become the Caliph . Forced a showdown and Obama chose the Party . It looked awesomely promising , the events leading to the Disgrace and Obama also gave permission for the arming up of the Army of Petrol which would like totally destroy all the Kemalists in any Civil War and stuff -as expertly proven a million times by now . Also thanks to the social media thing , ı have this impression that the brilliant members in exile are swindling the lesser members of their money in California .


    this of course leads to sacrifices . Some professor assigned to direct the history institute founded by Kemal to write some history to deny Europeans cultural "rights" to conduct a new kind of Crusades because ancient Turks were like inventors of the very Civilization and we Turks had the right kind of skulls . More relevantly he was also following all , depending on the limited powers of observation and being always an air minded person and stuff , Russians had the useful I-16 , Nazis were getting the 109 (which was a very balanced plane in those days) but the British would have much better stuff because they had won the Schneider Cup , read Spitfire here . ı get new readers time to time . For their benefit there is nothing to be confused in this paragraph . The West denies us Turks to be people , accordingly we are given Democracy and Democracy must absolutely mean the history institute Atatürk established must be directed by a guy who is a member of a "Muslim" foundation that has schools with a reputation of pedophilia . The professor must be from the same city with a counter-revolutionary who thought he could bring the Republic down if he was to declare jihad because the heathen Turks were now going to be seen wearing hats . He lasted 4 months only because he was sent to test the water . With saying not all the Congregation were bad and they had to be pardoned if they were sorry . You know , people have lost quite a few things for saying anything like that , when the loot of Congregation was up for grabs .

    and he didn't resign , he looked for directions from the PM and he was told it would be so and then he resigned . Because , well , nobody in "Muslim" high ranks actually thinks they will last forever , with making an enemy of the idiot who will become the next Saudi King , irregardless of whatever Qatar might do or not do ; he has to fill his own water container while the water flows . Nor he is isolated . Say , some TV presenter who says the Congregation people were certainly much more qualified than the people currently occupy the positions . The guy with the book that explains how that was a Native American Pocahontas in the Istanbul of 1490 (and yeah ı am indeed a fan of Abrams' Alias where Sidney Bristow searches for the artifacts of a guy who designed the first cellphones during the reign of Beyazit II , the sultan at the time) . Yeah the guy with that book also says the Congregation must be brought back into the fold . With rumours around that the spiritual leader of the Congregation gone to hell . Would be positive for A-K-P , without the corruptive influence of the leader gone , some blanket amnesty could be arranged .

    also in the news that the first prayers in Ayasofya today . Some meek Islamist arguments that the prayers can not be Accepted by Allah , because there have been 500 invitations sent to those who will pray inside while a Friday prayer site must be accessible to all Muslims . Coronavirus is the the justification , there is only place for 1000 to 1500 people inside and the situation is that the PM would need at least 200 bodyguards , because Congregation and the idiot who will become the next Saudi King for starters , if there were masses of prayers around . But then we heard "whispers" of Ayasofya was built for the Prophet Muhammed , somehow , even if the dates do not match and there was a martyr in the siege of the city in the 700s , one of the last people who had seen the Prophet in person ... We have even heard Ayasofya was the symbol of "resistance" ? Which means New Turkey heroically winning its birthrights though ı don't really know how that fits , even despite Sydney Bristow and cellphones ...


     
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    You should call the city as it was called by the prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him), Constantinople. Else you risk being part of the 1/3 which will be obliterated in the end days of apples ;)
     
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    actually no . lstanbul is one stinking city , especially back in the days the sewage was dumped into the sea untreated . And yet even that will not help its recapture by Greeks , even with a British proxy of "Muslims" .

    also must take the opportunity . Now as of today ı have two consecutive posts on weird news thread , a sentence here will help me search for them . See , Footpad is F-35 , the bestestest thing ever designed and the thing to talk like more than a decade ago . lt aims for the monopoly situation of the Western fighter aircraft business and it has no other consideration . lt is so brain meltingly good that people can not grasp that lesser countries in the Western camp can be allowed to have it ! You know , there was an lslamic thing in lran and lran is still a thorn in the side of the West ! So there has to be classes within . One fit for gods and one for donkeys ! Lockmart trolls are super they do not allow any lies like that . Just like they are vigilant on anything .

    so , Uncle Sam finally buys 8 articles of the bestestest and it turns out money has to be spent in bringing them to American standarts . Uhm , ı was imagining we were brothers and there was no donkey version ? A seriously bad question and because no one will ever have me , damn r16 and ı like totally don't know what ı did to them , some guy does get attacked . The issue at hand is a thing about armour scheme on a WW ll fighter aircraft . An American plane intented to willingly ram an hostile bomber . BS ! The guy is told so ! To cut it very short , the guy is being trolled so that he can be banned , a month after he posted that Americans really studied suicide aircraft (because there is no way you can get out of that suit of armour when you have crashed into some other plane and your cockpit itself is deformed and whatnot) . A month of nothingness but yeah on the day r16 questions whether it is true that there is indeed a donkey class . There must be a fight and it must be made clear it was personal failures of r16 that gets him banned . No , ı don't think they know that their conspicious ranting against r16 is partially responsible , in some little percentage , for Lockmart telling its assets in Pentagon to shut this Old Republic rambling (that's known to be paid attention globally and) gets ltalians to ask whether they will get the god standart or the donkey variant . Which finally ended r16 being put on the execution list of the Congregation and ı might have been dead on 16th or 17th of July , 2016 if the coup attempt had been successful . See , nothing to see here , move on ... lt is always the Turks fault .

    the guy writes back an answer . Americans studied suiciders but couldn't match the target set , a mythically made up bunch of cruising speeds at altitude which could not be reached by an heavily armoured plane scrambled after the alarm was given by the rather limited radars of the day . Hence Nortrop's P-79 , rocket and jet powered versions , fast and high and quick in the climb . And armoured wing leading edges to slice the tails of an enemy bomber . And the guy , Jack Nortrop is actually known to have said that he designed it to cut off enemy tails . P-79 makes the previous efforts real . Also BS ! (There is this effort by American aviation historians to white wash the P-79 . Suicide flying is done by brown people who wrap towels around the head , not by rational and brave and crackshot Americans) So the Turkish guy promises to deliver this Jack Northrop interview . Great designer but lousy businessman , Jack Northrop was kicked out of his company and some years later a colleague of his from the Douglas corporation arranged a venue for him to talk , without any reservations . Some guy named Gasich from Northrop also attended , to keep track and prevent Jack from talking too much , this Gasich guy led the design team that made the T-38/F-5 series . So the Turkish guy offers this interview , with all provisions to have it rebutted ... His post gets deleted . Repeats the offer , his post gets deleted again .

    comes to r16 , the Starfleet Admiral , to figure out it out and sauce it up . The forum guy calls BS , a magazine article in the whole stuff of actual history writing is observed . The author says Americans did this and that because he has seen the official documents from the archives . Why the rejection ? Actually the magazine in question has jabbed Lockmart and its brilliant head honcho Kelly Johnson of the celebrated Skunk Works , because it is British and must support the British efforts to sell the so called Tempest and it would be tough if the Lockmart PR efforts (that they were gods in disguise and nobody else knew anything about Stealth) were left unchallenged . That Americans wanted to cocoon the pilot of a P-40 in 8 mm armour so that he would live until he killed himself crashing into some Amerikabomber (kinda seen at the end of Captain America in yugely exaggerated form) it can only mean , the designated American interceptor plane , yep and yup , the Lockheed made P-38 was not upto the task . (lndeed it was not , regular early service issues and putting cannons on planes was quite tough in the early days but would do soon enough) But ı would say that was too early , for it to become an attack on Lockmart ? Always be ready , always defend Lockmart ? There you are .
     
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    You think you know better than the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)?
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    getting me branded as an infidel won't get me arrested or taken out , considering some unofficial offer sent to Obama in December 2013 involved the great job New Turkey was doing in making deists and atheists out of people , with the obvious example : lf "Muslims" acting in such hypocracy was religion , religion could not be real .

    and yes , ı have some hope of "surviving" on the Judgement Day and it is lstanbul and will remain so . You won't have the pipeline , too .
     
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    So you don't like the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), but fancy your own self a prophet.
    Must be the aura of life in the dark ages.
     
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    trust me , Fleet Standart 71 Phantoms will be a breeze to fight , instead of wasting time with this or that . Considering your assets here might have fallen to claim that the ruling area of the country , you know , the North Eastern is 0% of Turkish etnicity by DNA analysis of like 200 or less people across the country . When one is ready for America + Russia + China and like 189 others ...
     
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    Maybe then use the starfleet to prevent future announcements by the turkish embassy in the US, which spoke of the turkish ship going to enter greek waters yesterday. Somehow nothing of the sort happened - maybe due to alien guns having locked onto it.
    Tbh, this is going nowhere as things are, so some kind of war would have to happen, if only to take out some of the weapons and allow new purchases.
     
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    first , well , the picture ı forgot at home . Can write stuff in the tablet , but webcafe is better for longer posts and the like

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    so , what's going on here ? It's of course the morning after the Disgrace of July 15th . You can guess what Polis is , you can see the beardy with the flag which became the national symbol in about the very beginning of the 19th Century . You can see the Police barricading the masses , too . Those guys in green getting belted ? Conscripts ... Told ISIL was going to attack Istanbul city center on the European side , they were ordered , because troops are supposed to follow orders , to deploy on the first suspension bridge built across Bosphorus . The Last Prime Minister actually saw them being deployed as he was moving in convoy in the other direction , he waved at them and the soldiers waved back at him . We know that , because the Last Prime Minister told that on TV , with a happy face . And he of course he disappeared for the night . lnstead of taking command of the fight to suprass the coup attempt he was driven into an highway tunnel being constructed and remained there until the morning when all clear was sounded , talking on the TV with phone contacts from an undisclosed location . PAY ATTENTION , BRITISH MEMBERS OF cfc READING THIS , it was a well chosen thing , because the Opposition was getting very vocal about all those construction projects that not only enriched a set of Party companies with taxpayer money . Money paid for unnecessary projects then returned to Party coffers as donations to be spent on PR , they are also protected by the British Law as arbitration is to be in London courts , you know , if ı was to come down tomorrow with an Acclamator and its 16 000 clones on board , ı like would be NOT able to stop the bleeding of the treasury of my country to the coffers of The City in London . Next time when you get into your Rolls , remember it was my money that bought it .


    because , foreigners , especially Germans were jealous of New Turkey makig great strides with all that concrete laid all over , that's why they arranged for the Congregation to stage the coup . Will ı burn down The City ? You will discover all them suits are so peaceful when they see none of their goons around .


    the Last Prime Minister was hiding in a tunnel specifically for this , showing the electorate that tunnels are necessary , it can save lives . And of course he would be a no show , because everybody was waiting for the PM . To arrive in Istanbul . As civilians were challenging the troops on the bridge to give up . The Tankman in Tiananmen is such a powerful image , it was being replayed more than a few times . The troops , being expert coupists , had blocked only one side of the bridge for hours thinking they were stopping ISIL , their commanders might or might not have executed a soldier on the spot for refusing to fire . We don't exactly know , because it might not fit the narrative in some spot , but one of the commanders definitely climbed into one of the towers of the bridge and sniped all night long until he was killed by the Police in the morning . And then the Syrian or beardy as mentioned in the previous post , safely arriving to do what beardies (no , actually ranking beardies) do in Syria , after the end of the fight . To prove their manhood by killing the (now) defenceless enemy . So , you can imagine this guy , who might very well be from the Northeast , protected by a Police cordon , belting people . This picture might have been "prepared" months ago , SWATs prepared by Right Wing Goverments , especially since Santa Turgut's time , to fight the godless Kemalist Army , the dragon slayed and the knight in shining armour on his prancing horse or whatever , do we all see who won ? Or , he might be a cop himself , taking the pressure off , "gazını almak" as much as you would get the baby burp or whatever after being fed , because he/she might cry later on , ruining your day or night . Because the coup attempt could have gone into full scale civil war and America did not want it and 50 beardies killing 100 or 200 people on the bridge after they had surrendered could have been too much . Or he might have been chosen for his resemblence to people in high places , showing the voters who might been very willing to be there , doing the deed but one had to be civilized .


    and of course all this could have been avoided , easily . An uncle of mine did his compulsory military service not far from the bridge , at the anti-aircraft gun sites . The soldiers from there could have been deployed in 5 minutes and put everything down . (Or if they were also led by Congregation , they could have arrived on the bridge to help the guy in the tower sniping at the civilians). Even Erol Olçok could be still alive . A rather creative advertiser person , killed on the bridge next to his son named after two of his two very close friends , the PM and George Clooney's Turkish branch also known as the 11th President . No doubt it was Olçok who noticed it and made a point of it . As handsome as Clooney , the 11th President might have got like an extra thousand votes from women ... His loss must have been keenly felt by the A-K-P , as every election campaign afterwards is deemed to lack soul ... His widow has become vocal on how they were killed , father and son and the fight against Congregation is fake and she is active in one of the New A-K-Ps while Olçok's family have declared their loyalty to the PM , calling on her not to use the surname .

    this is where the Greeks enter the picture . Contrary what you might be hearing , they were always fond of the PM and the Party . Set to destroy the Republic , the very promise of New Turkey should be an easy victory for Greece , in the inevitable war . Forget the CFC guy here , he is passionate about something am not exactly aware of and this is no trolling or ad hominem or whatever , but it is actually strategic thinking and planning in Athens . Yet every day that passes , New Turkey proves to be a liability because of something new , each sunrise brings a new scheme New Turkey must be supported with . London , their ally and stuff and today's hits on Opposition websites mention a French journalist observing the retreat of the Greek Army in their Asia Minor disaster , British officers actually advising on the destruction of Turkish towns and whatnot . Expertise needed , because with the removal of the Greek Army from the equation Kemal will of course face the British in the Çanakkale region , where he had already beaten Churchill once . There should be no logistical support and what not from the Aegean region , which like still happens to be the richest farmlands and whatnot in so many types of agricultural products . Yeah , so much allied in the past , London will recover its Brexit losses and all with a through robbery of this country and imposes another lie on Athens . Every day or so ...

    so , Athens reminds the secretary of defence of the palace cabinet that they called him on the day . Because everybody must take precedence in foreseeing the coup attempt . Yeah , the Greeks knew Congregation would rise and they knew it by noon and they called on the guy , who was then chief of goverment generals . He didn't answer the phone ! ı don't know what's that supposed to achieve . That the guy was Congregation and he didn't want to hear the Greek warning , because he would have to do something about it ? It has been said in Turkey with so many variations already ... That they helped and New Turkey must return the favour ? New Turkey wants to impress Muslim Brotherhood , New Turkey must act as Arabs , bad Arabs starve , good Arabs have oil , New Turkey must have oil ! Can they take it from Iraq or Syria or Iran with the help of Kurds and Sunni Arabs ? Yeah , bad luck . Of course them Greeks are silent about things . Like some strategy website in the US regularly reported the location of the PM's plane in the air as he travelled to Istanbul . After he had called on the civilians to deploy on the streets as the 2nd largest Army of NATO was totally absent from the fray , you know , as if to suddenly crash on the Kemalists in case they fell for the trap . Of course New Turkey says it was a trick , there were 3 planes in the air , the one with the PM onboard closed its transponders and it was unknown to the world (and of course , without missing a beat its pilot turned out to be Congregation and was sacked a few months later) while the one American strategy site followed (intently through some civilian air traffic website) was a decoy . Am always said to be a spammer , talking of unrelated stuff in weird places . Let me give you an example , the range of latest Amraam missiles is said to be above 100 kilometers . And there were a few Congregation jets over Istanbul and more over Ankara and ı think the one set aside to visually inspect planes in the dark (and naturally shoot down the PM's plane) was unable to find a tanker to refuel or something and wasn't the PM's route or at least the decoy's route was like by the coast ?

    kendi düşen ağlamasındır

    while against the CFC rules , using non English stuff without translation , it's not an insult or anything or something Greeks would like to be heard . Afterall Obama ruled the world or something and it was Obama's decision . While Congregation was a bunch of snot eating idiots (as seen on TV , spritual leaders wipes his nose and people rush to grab the tissue and the lucky one does the deed in tears of joy , because he is some incentious bigshot that teaches lessers how they should respect the superiors) flying a combat jet calls for aggression and had the PM been killed there would either be all out Civil War or a "nice" Congregation dictatorship that would start an all out Civil War and ı would be dead anyhow .

    uhm , the part where we discuss whether r16 likes the Prophet or not . Article of Faith , following the Prophet and the example He set . And r16 lives in some part of the world where people can be like immediately mobilized and lynch and stuff and stuff . Actually seeing Syrians in the streets and they might very well have been , you know , reformed ISIL members . Before readers of this page get in a mood , ı am not offended at all , it is only that ı can write more coherent and longer pieces in the laptop for webcafe posting . Afterall ı get to talk to myself a lot of the time . Only so few people here ı might be said to have been in trouble with ... Examples ? One catholic dude and only way Vatican could have told him to shut up would have been if he joined the cloth or however they say that . One with the missionary zeal waits for a Biden Administration so that America will rediscover that Kurds need a country of their own . Some US Army vet probably fumes at strategy bigshots meetings that produce more garbage on how New Turkey is the best option , one of these days Republic will die and New Turkey will volunteer to get killed while saving the world from the Shia . Some guy who used to be vocal ? Different hemispheres , same kind of disaster expected through different paths , what's the point ...

    having a tablet enables me to be around here everyday , so let me tell that part , too . You know , again ... ı wasn't in that much of a danger on the night of the Disgrace . You know , as an example . Big city nearby was the first to end the troubles , because Congregation attempt there involved one single colonel , who arrived in an office with a piece of paper that proclaimed him the commander and stuff . Arrested in seconds . As TVs hyped up the tension , the nearby garrison was surrounded by a couple of people who wanted the military inside to hand them over the coupists so that they could be lynched . And exciment to possibly lead to other things . In a city of millions that could have sent 10 000 carloads , how many where there ? 10 , 15 guys all told ? All the commotion was unheard in my street , ı learned it like 2 years later . ı was stressed and stuff , because ı should been allowed to raze the US , ı don't know in 2008 , while watching TV , jets and shooting and brave commentators . Have been somewhat more stressed as some victim of Ergenekon conspiracies blabbed for months on TV about the cowards who watched TV on the night , ı wonder does he ever know what would have been happened to his likes if Obama had chosen otherwise , he is also under the protection of the mob , too . If you need any translation it involves me being a fool volunteering to be the Comical Ali/Baghdad Bob of the country and my spoken English is utterly worse . This leading to some low level diplomat assigned to be in this city once or twice a year , because Lord Vader does not bother talking to the US , and why should he anyhow . ı myself do not talk to the US . Have been laughed at the street by the US Consul to Istanbul or whatever . The one single person in US services ever to take me seriously was a female bodyguard that stood closer to a car , with darkened windows and all and the local guy immediately rushed at her side to tell ı was a fool . And this kid told to stay in the car , because they were cutting down a tree and he wanted to watch and the sort of people bodyguards are naturally alarmed about is not the r16 kind . ı was simply one more Brown person . Better types could kidnap him or whatever . He was like 12 , maybe less , so surely ı could slap him or something , he being White , me being Brown and stuff . You must remember my locality is on the way to winter resorts of South Marmara , the guys travel a bit for skiing and stuff .


    second , ı don't care for what Greece buys in peacetime . Considering Americans have it already heard that the Greeks will purchase the 20 donkeys on the production line and unavailable to New Turkey , considering what ı think of the donkeys and how cool a confidence increasing measure that is . If it gets beyond and becomes action that involves Fleet Standart 71 Phantoms , Greeks will no longer be in a position to replace their armoury . All the same , a classy act , creating a personal shame scheme with me allegedly profiting from replacements . Nothing in the Med ? It's Merkel dealing behind closed doors and the second attack on the airbase in Libya comes after EU decision that New Turkey must once again "expand inwards" . Accordingly ...

    the next episode . One has been identified as Jewish and the other is not what you might be thinking .

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    This isn't TWC; there is no Greece vs Turkey going on in threads here.
    Doesn't change the situation IRL one bit, but surely it is better to not see goons and clowns and almost first names of Romneys.
     
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    An important moment for the New Turkey of Erdogan.... or should I say the New Caliphate Empire at the expense of the Arabs ?
    Picture shows Erdogan in the opening Friday Prayer of the Hagia Sophia Ayasofya-i Kebir Camii Şerifi.
    The ceremony is on July 24... exactly 97 years after the Treaty of Lausanne where the Allies of WW1 drew the new borders of the Ottoman Empire Turkey.
    Erdogan led the way in prayer... religious official Ali Erbas leaned on an Ottoman sword... Erdogan denies later that he is aiming at restoring the Caliphate

    Is Erdogan in such a weak position or hurry that he could not wait for those other 3 years to make the symbolic action at the 100 year anniversary ?
    Who knows ?
    On the domestic front Erdogan added restrictions on Social Media in his Covid package and he plans a new additional neighborhood guard police force of 200,000 bekçi, poorly trained uniforms, with the same powers as police officers. The first 21,000 already causing lots of troubles.
    Bekçi were in the Ottoman period the "uncles of the neighborhood".

    What is next ?
    Cancelling portraits of Atatürk ?
    (these are really hanging everywhere just like crosses in traditional catholic countries and regions)

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    Atatürk :lol:

    ^When your country is so messed up that a mass murderer mentioned by Hitler himself as a paradigm of getting away with genocide, is marketed as the sane option :p
     
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    it was going to be another webcafe day , so let me answer to specific things later at home

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    echo chambers are dangerous , leads you to think that the ideas are widespread . As in rejection of the ideas .

    that first one is apparently a magazine cover . Ayasofya and [New] Turkey are now free it says . The rest you can see . They like can now go and declare Caliphate because why not ? Because the name of the magazine translates as Real Life ! Because they defeated a weird type of Jews and liberated New Turkey by making Ayasofya a mosque again , as if they are just weeks into power and were not in charge in the last 17 or 18 years . They had the top imam with a sword in his hand , giving the sermon , as it was a tradition when a city was just conquered . It surely was a "defeat" for the closet Jews and just do not rush into things , like that report button down on this page somewhere because "Muslims" do everything they do ... to fight the descendants of Sabetay something from 1600s because they faked becoming Muslims and are not and are the agents of foreign powers and they conspire against Islam . When a "Muslim" does corruption or hires a photomodel for the night they all "know" it's lies by the closet Jews and they must stand together . ı don't know how lucky ı am with the Trump Presidency , now that most readers these days have absolutely no problem in imagining how this can be ever possible . That a guy talking of sex with his daughter could win elections by getting votes of people believing in Jesus and being ever ready to impose morals on immoral others ? "Muslims" here tend to be more tight lipped .


    the second is of course the burial site of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk , born in Selanik . He would be called a closet Jew even when he wasn't born there . The mauseleum or whatever was completed in the 1950s , has long been used as "proof" that he was a communist and worse , because Lenin's is similarly columnaded or whatever the hell you call that type of construction .

    first picture comes from the twitter account of a bigshot journo of New Turkey , second from the official twitter thing of Army of Petrol . There are like still fools who want to believe the second is an answer to the first . Promise of this episode is a discussion of "Jewish" and "not what it looks like" , right ? The journo is the indirect reason for an 8 or 10 pages long CFC thread some years back . Because all "Muslims" have a share in deciding where taxpayer money goes , he had one of his former books reprinted and the PM also joined in and it was obvious that Muslims could have discovered America before Colombus . And the guys book should have been a primer and whatever , talking of some Native American marrying some dude in Istanbul of 1490 . ı wouldn't doubt some very early Congregation member (hence an actually smart enemy of this country) discovered Captain Smith in Pocahontas had made his name fighting a very evil bunch of Ottomans and that could be thorny for some reason and decided to adapt the story and it was contracted out and possibly it is just a line or two in some book . Because discovering America is like the greatest human achievement or whatever and that a Turk first saw America first was a thing that was like invented in 1950(?) with a crewman on those caravels . "Muslims" naturally do everything better .


    feeling lost , like a very normal thing in r16 posts ? Do not worry , religious harmony was a primary Congregation thing , respecting each other , understanding each other . The love affair between them and America , the reason they quickly became number one in this country , outperforming all other congregations (which would be regular British controlled things) is the way that Congregation left no doubt that they would be very willing to create the conditions for easy conversion to Christianity and stuff , while old school bunches are much harder . Pay the sheik and he can keep enjoying his own Sodom and Gomorrha with his flock stuck on "Islam" , instead of losing them to an American missionary . Not that ı don't know tales about missionaries , but let's keep this simple r16 .


    so , the head of the Religious Authority with his toy but golden sword in his hand gives the sermon in Ayasofya . Because America is unhappy with cells and offshoots appearing here and there without any firm control of the Saudis , you just can not say whatever you want in sermons . The Religious Authority writes the Friday Sermon , puts it online and you might lose your job as an imam if you don't watch the commas and full stops . The sword guy of course ignored his own text and added the "Curse of Fatih" . The English form of the word is vaqf , build a mosque or an hospital or a bridge or a water-fountain and it will need an upkeep . So , depending on size of the thing to support you might assign a farm or other stuff . Supposedly quite a few of the shops in an earlier form the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul was assigned to Ayasofya as vakıf . Well , in early times the Sultan was the only one in country to own anything or something like that . Naturally when the Sultan dies and new people arrive there's nothing to stop that farm or those shops being re-assigned to something else . So , the guy creating a vakıf curses later generations if they break the bonds between "service to Humanity to get God's Grace" and the "means for worldly upkeep" . Except nobody would be caring for Ayasofya or whatever because everybody collected gold and gems , things a vezir could hide from the Sultan's men , when the Sultan removed him from power and gold and gems can be collected with stuff like re-arranging shops ... "Muslims" (despite their dependence on Anglosaxons and Oil Arabs) have studied that aspect of the Ottoman experience extremely well , many are wondering what they will sell from the State assets next time .


    so , a rallying cry for "Muslims" in the days of Kemal , because closing down mosques are "bad" even if it was surprassed long ago in size and whatnot by Sultanahmet right next door , the one apparently called the Blue Mosque by tourists and ı am pretty sure ı saw that in Wikipedia . And defeating the Republic once again , because they also have some guy named Crane or whatever and a partner of Henry Ford(?) ordering Kemal to close down the mosque , because closet Jews are always enemy agents and you are a closet Jew if you ever manage to stop a "Muslim" from pillage and plunder . Apparently there has been a Fatih's Curse cursing the Republic for years because Ayasofya was a museum , because in the end America or UK can not exactly come here and fight in the name of their assets if it goes into a full-blown mode and they have to curse Atatürk by proxy , without naming him . Not that Atatürk is god or prophet or pharoah but it is some reference point , you can seriously see what type of a guy a person is by the way he refers to the founder of Republic . It's only those who claim to be Atatürk's followers you gotta be wary of . And of course there are also those who insult him all out in the open . A thing being forgotten these days is the tale of the guy who was the first "Muslim" to carry out a political murder in the country , according to his own bragging . Possibly author of many booklets about how Kemal was a pedophile , he was arrested for having a too young a bride and he was allowed to rot in jail by the A-K-P , because America . Everybody understands the head of the Religious Authority was cursing Atatürk , despite his expected denials . And guess what , with the slightest web search and stuff , you will immediately see he was so cosy with the Congregation , you know , once . Having his name in some harmony creating commission , perhaps ? Especially when saying anything about religious harmony has now become an act of terror . Nothing will happen to him , because the PM has used the Curse of Fatih narrative so many times , because the Opposition must be enraged , solidifying the support base of the Party and when the Opposition inevitably gets defeated a lesson for all to see that New Turkey is eternal . "Muslims" know , each and everyone of them , that they wouldn't stop to pick up any stragglers if they were ever in a position to run , because if the roles were to be reversed and they were to become stragglers nobody would stop for them . They will not create a chance to see what they are really made of . The leader of almost racists has also chimed in , calling it a conspiracy , clearly forgetting the days when he was the biggest Atatürk lover in the country / in the Opposition . If that still doesn't work , he might get to resign , despite the more recent quip or whatever that New Turkey is such a free country that you can't resign without legal permit .


    novels or movies are like fixed to require that there must be sudden swings and twists and surprises . You confident about which one is "Jewish" and the other "not that way" ? Well , some guy had seen it on Netflix that the slogan (if not now , when / if not you , who) is a Jewish thing ... Some other tells that A-K-P fears losing power so much that they are creating a PR point that betraying vakıf bonds is so much cursed , as they create so many vakıf stuff , naturally controlled by Party people and inevitably always ending in a pyramid of things with PM's son in charge . Who was also in the news over the weekend with the next "official" target . That the country to become bilingual , with Arabic added , not said so in clear terms , but . Because of the "revolution of the letters" and the acceptance of the Latin Alphabet , they turned ignorant in one night . There was so much huff and puff a few years ago on how the young generations could not read the tombstones of their grandfathers . That (when the Counter-Revolution is fully completed all the cemeteries will be destroyed Saudi/ISIL style and there will be no tombstones to read) has no relevance to the "Muslim" narrative as of now .


    why ? Because the PM has vested too much into reputation . Infallibilty is a rather bad thing . And considering the Saudis are so much gloriously winning in any endevour and have been taken out of the make believe the-world-attacks-New Turkey by America because it creates credibility issues and Mega BS , the idiot who will become the next Saudi king watches from the side as UAE's Mega Big Zit tries to defeat New Turkey , PM wants legality and parliamentary votes and the like , while practically all his supporters can change their spots overnight . That's why Caliphate "suddenly" appears . "Muslims" all got Benzes with supporting Democracy and they can all see there is something wrong with the world and they can be sold by America , oh my , the horror ... They don't want to drive their Benzes away , they want to have Rolls Royces . While there is still power (they do not own) they want to go faster . Faster than the PM . You know , "Muslims" are so much impressed with the Jews . Did you ever hear of how the Jews are supposed to control things through conspiracies ? "Muslims" achieved such greatness by doing everything they accused Jews of doing , that's their little secret . They will of course have no popular support in an Arab country of hundreds of millions of people , as this Caliphate will turn out to be in their dreams . Because they "tend to know" Arabs are dumb , so many fools with oil wells . They will become America of the Sand , they will rule it with firm control just like that they think Israelis rule America of the Sea . They need to keep others out . Africans might do as slaves , Pakistan is necessary until its nukes are all stolen , Indonesia is too far out , though of course the narrative will be about Islamic Unity . Anything East of Umman is of too many people , of too many non-Arabs . Also Saudis , the real beneficiaries now or in the future , can not stand Arabs , how they will handle Asians ? So , the talk of Caliphate supporters here is about not a person or dynasty but a global parliament type thing .

    nobody believes in Starfleet , though even after so many years of propagandizing about how the now dead Turkish Army was a paper tiger , the carcass of the Republic is what they peddle . Defeat naughty Arabs , kill all the Shia when they get the power they don't have and they will live fabulous lives !

    as such the Anıtkabir picture is not a reminder that Kemal is respected and Army of Petrol will do things to stop the Counter-Revolution ... lt actually looks like they are abandoning it or something . Good riddance ? Of course , takiyye . The current chief of goverment generals posed with a congregation leader in Ayasofya . The secretary of defence of the palace cabinet is claimed to have visited the grave of the leader of an organisation that's on the terror list of EU . Though it is more likely he visited the one of the one single poet New Turkey can be said to have . Active in the 1940s as a playboy in massive alcohol use , he is naturally known for acidic commentary about the times and partners in chasing skirts . Also visible in the frame , the sign leading to Kemal's Chief of Staff . One praying 5 times daily , he helped some Jewish family in the 1920s and the kid became like the biggest businessman in the country and he would regularly visit Çakmak's grave , maybe a sign of respect , maybe a fully acceptable investment as Islamists were gaining more power in each election . He was murdered by a substance abuser (who needed money and whatnot to have more sexual intercourse with his "girlfriend" in open/not used graves) in late August 2001 . There are Americans who regard it as the opening salvo of Bin Ladin's thing . See , you can always get lost in a r16 piece , when ı am like simple . We mortals will never know where the former chief of goverment generals goes , if he doesn't want it known . ı have never heard it on TV that he was around the tiny garrison nearby . Officers of which then laughed at me for not recognizing him .


    echo chambers make us think there are millions out there , thinking like they would be out there in support . Like incensed millions who are ready for something to be done against a group on EU's list terror having a march in Istanbul after their leader was once again honoured by New Turkey . That a bunch of beardies beat up a woman driver because she followed the orders of the Police of beardies' beloved New Turkey . That another bunch of beardies attacking a municipality team distributing free milk to kids in an A-K-P neighbourhood . That Poland is also leaving the Istanbul Accord , one run of the mill things New Turkey regularly did , supporting women's rights for good looks while they were not supporting anything at all . Neither Polish nor woman , why do ı care ? That there will be no one to talk on my behalf when they come because ı didn't talk when they came for others ? No , ı might actually enjoy what will happen , being raised well to be some good person . One indeed needs 15 assistants to cover a single day of New Turkey .


    this is of course nothing like the TWC thing where the sides keep battling , unlike Mediterranean . Israel fights "ghosts" and starts raining artillery on South Lebanon , there are only rumours of action off Meis and ı stupidly kill the internet connection before managing to write that it ain't so and don't we hear the drilling has stopped "for the moment" ? ı wonder what's the relation with that and the claimed Greek priest who supports the Grand Honourable Ayasofya Mosque , because if it was still a museum fat-backside American women would be inside in shorts .




    do not ascribe yourself powers that you don't have . New anywhere in the world forgets real quick . As proven by the Greek Church by its 3000 years of history . Yes , ı know what ı just wrote here . The New would forget what transpired and concentrate on who trolled them to go in the first place ...
     
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    the Protocols of the Elders of Zion ? Not a thing against Hrothbern here but the article linked within . Yeah , am pretty sure CFC members have seen enough fantastic bombastic nationalist drivel over the years but it wasn't the Allies that draw the borders of the Turkish Republic in Lausanne in 1923 . Not all was taken tis true , but it happens to be the only treaty that a loser of the Great War imposed anything on the winners of the said .

    uhm , protocols ? lt was the lstanbul of 1921 when British journalists discovered the White Russian who knew who had faked the said . Kemal's uprising was in a such a complex web of a mess that the famed lnternational Jewry was offered respect and whatever in return for no longer supporting the Turkish War of Liberation , so that Whites could be re-inserted and Reds defeated , removing the "last" threat to the one world goverment , disregarding what it was called at the moment . Jews are always an answer that covers anything when the West can not understand what just did happen ...

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    the phrase Grand Honourable Ayasofya Mosque as ı would translate it is on the official documents as Kemal had it turned into a museum . lt is mosque built as a cathedral or whatever becoming possibly the most Orthodox shrine over the millennia . The godlessness of Kemal is so much exaggerated , he was trained as an Ottoman officer and his knowledge of lslam would easily match anyone cursing him today , but it was the times and the way New Turkey has to be real careful in insulting him , 2 steps ahead and one step back even before confronted , only shows how successful he was .

    (tablet is stupid , even ate my edit) will have write a seperate thing on how the presentation of the Bekçi affair is wrong .

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    digesting r16 rants can be difficult . Jumping to the big picture from stuff irrelevant so fast that the hardiest bungee jumper would have nausea .


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    so , there is this building plot in my street . Small in size , the regulations would allow a much smaller house , has been there for maybe 40 , maybe 50 years , last owner is a family that started this citywide famous delicacies shop . They are now selling it . Next house belonged to a family that used to work in the said shop .. Recently the building was demolished , ı don't know , because of tax debt or whatever . The shop owner feels his garden will not be cared for ? Economy is bad , the plot could pay wages for months ? Does he know there is development to be and he will be paid on the scale of a cent on the dollar if he can't sell it immediately ?

    you see , my street happens right next to some projects as old as me , that would need replacement . 380 or thereabouts in the number of flats , if ı remember correctly , New Turkey can fix anything up from 700 to 1400 in the area available . The double lane in front of our house would be awesome to be the boundary of the new builds , to be bordered another double lane on the other side . Nobody will be sorry if r16's family house gets demolished to make way for modernity ! Actually and naturally there are laws that allow the Goverment to buy anything in the name of earthquake preparations . But naturally they will first open up the double lane in front of our house fully to the double lane (the third one this time) that leads up to the highway to Izmir . Modernity always aims for those with money and the people will drive to work each morning , they need roads ! The previous "muhtar" , the guy representing the neighbourhood , failed to fathom my rage at the time they were "fixing" the first end of the double lane some years ago .

    see , ı live in an area fit for "development" . The football stadium in the big city was demolished and the new one was built close by . High rise buildings are happening a kilometer or so away . Everybody is aware of the plans that everything by the highway will be taken out up the "train street" , not many are aware that it won't stop there . Yeah , Arabs . Who are given tall buildings by those who remove Arabs' petrodollars , my street becoming a double lane between two projects , given time . The nearby airfield would have been prime development zone after closure ? Instead of demolishing so many houses ? Oh , of course they are looking forward to have Arabs with private jets . Though ı don't know what an Arab with a private jet would find in my neighbourhood or even the great city nearby . Even if Qatar made it heard that some highborn or at least rich woman was there , sculpting of all things , when evil Saudis blockaded poor Qatar . Actually you can imagine where the "center" of this new zone might be . Currently building by the canal , parts of which were done by the Germans in the late 1800 whatevers .

    those who can identify my house from satellite photos (and ı could do it myself when ı was working in the museum , standing by the wall size reproduction , using the canal , Izmir Highway and the projects) will notice that's a lot of people to be removed . The lots and lots of Albanians (as they call themselves) might not be a problem . The talk is they would be receiving a thousand liras a year or a month per family from the previous Metropolitan Mayor , to be regular voters no less ... They are likely to love modernity . Except the little snag . That this country is obscene in the eyes of "truer" Christians and they do hide their intents by telling they only intend that the Turk will be driven back to Central Asia . This country is to be assimilated . Some Kurdish scholar dude said they would Arabise the country , because the Turk was nothing and it was Kurds that Turkified Anatolia and they are taking back what they gave or something like that . That's what regularly talking to Americans does to people . You know , he gotta be a global mover and shaker ...

    the problem is there are not enough Arabs . The utter failure of New Turkey to occupy Syria was quickly pardoned by America as it created massive numbers of people but they can go only so far in a country of 80 million plus . No , this is not Racism at all and so many of those people are working hard simply to survive . Nor there can be that many immigrants . What fool would stay in New Turkey and enjoy its glorious fake economy when he could move over to Germany ? So , the numbers in the other side of the equation must be decreased . Am always so impressed by the Bulgarians allowing double citizenship stuff to those who were born there or has relatives in country . One would think EU would apply pressure on Sofya to stop this silly thing that might give millions of passports valid for entering the whole EU ! Everybody will of course say the Bulgarian Goverment was once bankrupt and the process raises money . Anyone who has the option and an occupation viable in the EU (say , a doctor or an engineer maybe) and still refuses to have that passport is a fool , too . Actually it was agreed long ago , Germany takes the manpower , UK the wealth . When ı say Trump gifted New Turkey to Theresa May as a colony , believe it ... because it happens to be true , America will tell you to invest in UK , persistently since 2017 .

    uh , Albanians ? The brilliant moment when the Kurdish scholar dude called on them on Turkish TVs that they should be allies and bring down the Republic mimicking the history when the Albanians left the Ottoman Empire 1912ish , despite New Turkey was gloriously doing everything it could has long passed . Albanians are Balkan people , no looking at me if Vahhabis remember 1800s . ı said do not look at me , didn't ı ? Yeah , Vahhabis are all more-ons , they wouldn't if ı had not , so right , so right ... (No , this doesn't mean the locals are banned from looking at me ! Even better my posts become when they are half translated .) Albanians have no business in an assimilated Anatolia , Arabified or Kurdified or whateverified . ı of course expect whole debates on my non-existant morals , my once believed-to-exist Page 3 wife , affairs with State Department girls , the whole bunch and how am a liar and A-K-P would never do that ! Never ! Ah , yes elections , Albanians can not be given a taste of police baton ?

    one of more dumber sides of this canal of Istanbul thing is safety . There are so many ships crossing the Bosphorus , they might blow up , destroying half the city . The PM works in Ottoman palaces by the sea , you know . So there should be a canal . Which was an American naval requirement , ı don't know how they expect to live in the Black Sea when the balloon goes up and the 1936 Treaty really restricts options for having fleets up there in peacetime . Then it became a wealth transfer thing , they will dig up and move so much dirt that , people can not imagine what the final cost will be . Taxpayer money , you know , it is a sin for it to be wasted if it doesn't serve election purposes or fill the pockets of the "Muslims" . So , suddenly and so much lovely , that cities suddenly sprout up by the canal . You see , we move dangerous ship traffic to a canal which no ship has a legal requirement to use . Then create a city of 1.5 millions by the canal , because why not . Saved people by moving traffic to the canal so that other people might be killed at the canal ? So what , Americans elected Trump as their President ... It sounds so lovely the foreign investors who have loved New Turkey so much are not touching the scheme at all .


    it's next big thing for New Turkey which has been transformed into a Frankenstein's , transforming everything it touches primarily for the benefit of 5 large construction companies and the rest of the jackals share the scraps . Has to happen , but fake economy is fake . No money ! But if it was to start somehow , the momentum would carry it to completion of yet more wealth transfer . Like a wall that needs to be brought down , because climbing is more difficult when all your pockets are bulging with gold coin .

    uh , what ? Don't worry , a light bulb is appearing over so many heads in my country . Ah yes , the discovery of the natural gas in the Black Sea . In addition to long proven benefits in electioneering , it also involved some shady stuff in stockmarkets . Many in the Opposition does not know anything about Maths and one claim for the size of currency/stockmarket speculation is 35 billion US dollars . Which is more likely to 35 billion liras , which will then be like 5 billion dollars . You know , they could start today ... So , my dear neighbours , let me see , they will dig the canal because they will naturally export the gas in the Black Sea , they will built the houses , will take over yours forcibly because your houses are too weak against earthquakes and they will offer you very very cheap houses as compensation . Congragulations , you are all moving to Istanbul by the Wednesday that won't come . To watch the Saudi tankers sedately passing in front of your house , because Vahhabis will pay top dollar just to establish traffic so that they can accidentally blow up a tanker , accidentally in some Albanian concentration by the canal . You see the logic in the poem , opening an hole in the wall ? Do you know how axis changing the Arabification of Anatolia would be ? You don't ? Don't worry , the next project will be the 6 lane highway to the Moon , to make you proud .

    people call me so many names . ı just fit around . When the whole world is so lunatic . You know , no aviation writer has yet managed to publish anything that describes Spitfire as ugly . So iconic that Brexiteers apparently campaigned with its visual , decribing how Great Britain stood against the hordes of an unified Europe in 1940 . No Polish Plumbers Allowed! Except the Spit in question was a late war model in a Polish Squadron , who were not allowed to plumb because they were like superb pilots far more useful in the air , attacking that unified Europe , too ...


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    apparently this one . Possibly they were looking for something close to "Farage" . Look out for the squadron codes of RF

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    more the big picture , man ... These are the two of the only three MK.Is that served the now dead THK . Those in the background are Hurricanes . Not many non-aviation people will be able to spot the difference , so ı will be quick , look at the crescent and stars at the tails . ı will seriously doubt any other Turkish planes had this kind after 1920 at the latest . Would be no doubt familiar to the RAF officers who ordered them painted at RAF depots before delivery , fez wearing while conducting Scottish Rites . The Hurricanes had the correct form because of the national narrative about the beautiful and glorious flag . Some commander touring the battlefield at night after the carnage and the blood of the martyrs have pooled . Reflecting the crescent of the rising Moon , coincidentally with a star at the right place and maybe some Lens Flare! Republic would not tolerate any wise guy to announce the Moon is a globe and no starlight is ever possible to be inside the circle defined by the tips of the crescent . The Law of the Flag is like heavy with mathematical formulas ... Which makes Republic smart , acting as if it could be "White" . The disdain against the Turks is everlasting .
     
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    yet another Spitfire to remain on the "ever developing/ever changing" topic but ı have seen it on countless times that ı become disturbing if ı ever make sense , so the bekçi question a couple of posts above to be handled first ...

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    a night patrol , a guard , warden might have been used maybe . A bekçi would most usually go around the streets at night with a whistle . Let the thieves hear him coming and they will be deterred . At least in the old times where the Bekçi would be one lone guy . They are like two or three on patrol these days as the thieves might be like many more , too . Bekçi Amca is also phrase from older times . When the kids misbehave , crying too much or demanding mothers to buy some more candies and whatnot Police or the Bekçi are good weapons to threaten to use : "Behave or I'll give you to the Police" , more effective if there are any within sight . That ı am ugly has no relevance , any lack of Police within sight will cause any stranger to become the object of threat , as ı have been a couple of times in my almost 50 years . A better thing than "I'll take you to injection" a medical office , maybe for vaccination where you get this needle stuff that becomes more threatening as the age goes lower ... But this is not exactly a good thing . The concept of policing stuff involves a certain level of trust , that the kid should like respect when the Police guy tells him that smoking is bad , instead of a chase a couple of years later as the kid has become a street peddler of drugs . Fear does not always create respect . Or something might have happened and the kid should be able to point which direction the people have run to , critical information that might actually save lives . So , the Police or Bekçi , by State decision , has become Amca , the brother of father . Just like ı have a niece and a nephew and so am an amca to two , but ı have been described as such many more times on the street , because kids also need to learn that not all strangers are threats and so on and a mother or a father would describe me as such , even if ı would never see them again .

    the issue of a bekçi previously being unarmed is wrong . ı certainly remember them with pistols regularly on them . When the "period of anarchy" was on , there would be one standing at the gate of the Police Station with a MP-5 , which they kept until they were abolished in the early 1990s . Think them as lower paid hot bodies to keep guard and stuff , while the Police would half keep guard and half do office work with better pay , creating tensions . The elderly were retired , the rest were made Police . The current thing arises from the inevitable requirements of hardliner states . When ballot is negated and the replacement at the top is limited only to bullets , there will always be a need for more armed groupings . To divide and rule those who might take arms ... Also the Police has been turned into almost racists arguably in its entirity since the times when there were a Leftist and a Rightist Police union before 1980 . The Congregation has been "removed" , replaced by countless other congregations which might or might not support a given faction within the Party , but almost racists outnumber the newcomers and would be expected to act in unison in a crisis , adding an ace in the sleeve to A-K-P's spare wheel , better known as MHP . That the secretary of internal affairs of the palace cabinet is always involved in verbal spats with the traitors -real or imagined- is a solid work to that end ; he is like apparently blamed that the officials from treasury (run by the son-in-law of the PM) were given no cakes during the 5 hours they spent in the PM's palace ... More likely a rumour started by the troll farm of the secretary of internal affairs of the palace cabinet , he is very active in creating impressions for times when the PM is no longer there .

    so another armed force is deemed necessary , especially a local thing , because the Police force -needed by the almost racists for domination of the political scene- has obviously no place for Kurds . Kurds are essential for Party to win elections , congregation work because Arabs will someday invade this country and the oil rich Saudis and Qataris would need boots on the ground and Police are on rotation , some years in the West , some years in the East and they will need some time to learn whom to oppress and whatnot while those living in the same neighbourhood would know what to do right from the start . Accordingly the first Police-Bekçi clash was in the East , when this possibly Special Forces level Police beat up the local Party footworker Kurd given an uniform and future prospects of guns and stuff . The Police knows this game very well , they were specifically armed and given SWAT teams and eavesdropping capability for blackmail to fight the now dead National Army , commanded by Officer cadres that would be amenable to listen to undesireable people , because they once followed Gazi Mustafa Kemal Atatürk , through all his phases and with him actually foreseeing that these days might come , internal footwork in the name of Counter-Revolution . The same cadres commanding an almost genuine breakdown of the Nation's Peoples because conscription brought Alevis and Kurds and Leftists into service and entrusted them with G-3s . They know the coming Bekçi force is a Party army to come . ı hear there already has been a gunfight somewhere .


    ah yes , the Spitfire in question . This one is like in Egypt in 1943 or 44 , training for deployment into Aegean islands . Which is of course the current problem of New Turkey , like because you know they were surrendering one or two to the Greeks when they were brothers with them ...

    the goal posts has indeed moved . When ı was being mobbed and whatnot and the very public manifestations was noticed by person A who told person B which then met person C who then took it to Lady Vader who then told Lord Vader to act , because Lord Vader is a good boy who always behaves ...


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    to end up in this perfect storm when seperate stuff gets joined in the hip for increased effect . Am an eternal fool , always laughed at but there would be moments people would suddenly feel unease , because ı was like 10 years older the rest and actually kinda better read because in my teens you could still read books . Which they transferred out as a joke that ı gotta be a spy , which became a running joke of citywide proportions . Lady Vader and et al knew America would declare open season on them during the destruction of Republic . Congregation (trying to control everything) knew the great city nearby would sooner or later win the football championships because Congregation would make it so and they needed closer "interaction" because of the Big Four , which were the teams that had previously won and they might have been harder nuts to crack . ı was like filmed and footage transferred to Ankara to learn whether ı was a spy , that ı was to be left alone created an illusion that ı was a Beşiktaş fan , which ı am not . ı am a Civ fan , actually a fanatic because ı play Civ , but never had any success in football . In my like 7 years of Anatolian High times you had to attend PT classes and football was almost required and ı touched the ball like four times , disrupting an attack once , stopping a goal because the opposing player most probably took aim at me , hitting the ball so wrong that it so beautifully curved through the window of the girls restroom on the first floor and scoring an own goal , if you believe an opposing player . It was actually an out , meaning the opposition would take a corner shoot , people mostly blame a blonde that was around . But apparently the person who forwarded that statement was a family friend of Süleyman Seba who had run Beşiktaş for a while , and Beşiktaş supporters and nearby city fans had fought running street battles with one killed ... so , Congregation added that to the mix .

    and yeah , people think this is preparation against them , linking stuff with stuff , unaware how explaining stuff like makes it easier for them ...

    just like management books talk of making a team of workforce and laughing at r16 was a team making experience because it obviously was so right , making a city enemy of r16 would unite people for further purposes . Explains why people who would have never interfered in my stuff (because it would only make a mess of my life) made me their retirement hobby , because ı was already in the war .

    moving goal posts ? When ı was like noticed , America had already fallen behind in its original plans of invading a Middle East country every two years , Syria blamed but not yet processed for supporting troubles in Iraq . An Algeria type Civil War in this country was being abandoned . Democracy instead was going to be the thing , with the original invasion date of 2009 still being adhered to . As in the world changes but evil Kemalist Regime refuses to follow heed and blames America for supporting an Islamist Goverment which only wants Freedom and investigations into past crimes are stalled and then finally crushed by bloodshed which then requires bringing Democracy to Turkey . Those who think the election of Obama , a totally fresh person , bringing so much hope to the world that he was immediately awarded a Peace Nobel was an accident , a random event , raise your hands . Because we are talking about the invasion of a country within the NATO Alliance , every crime of which was readily ignored so long ... Obama was like relaxed because the 2007-8 Ergenekon conspiracies had proven the feared Turks had no teeth , so the first thing he did was coming here to tell us Turks to roll over and die . We Turks were told we would destroy all enemies of the West in the Middle East and get destroyed in return and be happy about it , too . We Turks is a figure of speech , because ı am not real and nothing and the old gang between pangs of laughter (which included me laughing too / because it was so outrageously funny) decided ı would be the Baghdad Bob , the Comical Ali , the person to tell Americans they would be lost in the deserts (in the age of GPS and all that jazz) because they had never ridden a camel .

    the Algeria type Civil War , with election results ignored this way or the other and "Muslims" forced into open rebellion in alliance with seperatists was changed into New Turkey , impressing all Ihvan with a brother or two in charge . To which Saudis objected and an Arab Alliance to invade Iran was converted into colour revolutions in stages , getting bloodier in time so that public pressure at the injustices would negate any Kemalist attempt to check and balance New Turkey's invasion of Syria . Kaddafi was lured out of resistance that he could keep up for the next 50 years (if he lived that long) by Hillary Clinton with a promise of peace talks and stuff because he had to die ugly , to scare Beşar Esad . So that he would resist instead of calling it a day and calling for elections and moving back to London . He would still try to do that , leaving the war to his more warhungry relatives and stuff , so much that the SAS was announced to be supporting the Irresuction with a specific mission to locate him . To kill directly if Esad could not be turned over to the Sunnis in a timely manner for sexual abuse during death . We are like at 2011 now ... With all the smarties on TV talking of how it is happening again after a century , the West invading Libya 100 years after 1911 . 2012 would see Balkan War III (but for the thing that the Greeks had been like bankrupt by some accident) so people had to behave . So , a Phantom of the now dead Turkish Airforce was set up to be shot down by Syrians to lead to calls for revenge . Except Americans were utterly spooked by Russian stuff . New Turkey eagerly waited in 2013 for America to invade after Obama's redline of chemical stuff was crossed , PM waving a finger at Obama in the very White House . You know there is this Seymour Hersh guy who claims it was a New Turkey attack with incredibly poor supposed proofs and claims ... It would have been a bigger scoop than My Lai if things had gone that way . Instead Obama chose the photo op talking to the PM on the phone with a baseball bat in his hand , a thing the whole world knows why he is called a spineless jerk . With one of the old gang being famous with a preference for this most American symbol and being like 70 or more at the time and Obama calls for order or else . In a way people were famous when Obama was still in short pants ... like from a distance of what , 7000 kilometers and whatever or more ? And the accident of Gezi Events and stuff and somewhere along all this mess , the great city nearby becomes a duty spot for a career US Diplomat , because there is this thing called plans of mice and men . Which might go wrong , like suddenly ...


    iran plays the time and opportunity typically well . Because Obama can not play its trump card , sending the now dead Turkish Army into war in places , there has to be an ever more deadly threat , Armageddon lunatics that will scare us to fight Iran after loosing control here or there or somewhere or only God Knows where and bringing America and Iran together , too , because why not . You know , the mighty powerful ISIL . Which fizzled against the glory of seperatists which were then abandoned to be killed whenever New Turkey needed to win an election or two ...

    ah , the Mediterranean . Ah , the reason for Brexit . Ah , the current manifestation of the glory of New Turkey . You see , when that explosively formed projectile went through some M-1 and another took off the legs of the driver of that British tank in Afganistan there was this suspicion of Iran being farther along the route of copying the greatest achievements of the US Defence Industry in 1970s . During an Arab-Iran war there would be no oil exports from the Straits of Hurmuz with the Saudis using Red Sea ports . Which might come under attack in persistent scale to close them for global financial meltdown . The natural gas reserves of Mediterranean by 2009 had been simply a carrot to dangle in front of us Turks to accept Ihvanisation , because there were Ihvan in Egypt who might like us . New Turkey being far more interested in Kerkük and its long lost Kurdish brothers . 2011 Libya involves so much of killing a competitor of the Saudi/UAE/Qatari hydrocarbon sales . EPFs flying around and "OMG, Iran can now do 1970 stuff in addition to 1960 stuff!" explains the French and UK Special Forces almost coming to blows in Libya like ı don't know in 2014 ? Because if the Saudis are knocked out , with Venezuella accidentally knocked out by American hate against Castro's Cuba and Russians will be massively sanctioned to stop them rashly providing Iran with 1980s stuff , anyone who controls Libya can suddenly make a huge amount of money ...

    take a deep breath . Copy past this post into some programme to read each sentence one by one . Tell no one if you make sense of it .

    new Turkey was supposed to love Peace , as they peacefully ignored the Greeks planting a flag and people on a couple of new islands each year . We might have killed lranians too fast , so the now dead Turkish military was not supposed to be that modernized . Gezi Events proved the Police was not that mighty ; this blossoming of drone capability is an American permission for more active people control , you know by blowing people up . Defence projects was wealth transfer , tax payer money to "Muslim" companies , the current rapid development is a British requirement to let their proxies fight and defeat France/EU's proxies in places like Libya . Russia came and practically made it impossible to conquer Syria . Kurds proved they run whenever they meet a properly equipped army without embedded American advisors , so there is no conquering Iraq either .

    ah yes , we are finally in the Med . Development of gas projects and whatnot is a sure sign that Iran will be invaded . New Turkey will do its best to join and even if fails , the Kurdish problem will be raised again and it will be our turn to be attacked . Those who accuse me of betrayal (which happens every year on a different subject) are of course not afraid of fighting everyone in the world , ı just don't know why they don't just go and do it . New Turkey was specifically attacking the now dead Turkish Navy in Western plots they were not fully privy to , to prevent becoming more of a threat to the utilization of the gas reserves to supplant Iranian/Saudi supplies , with F-16s being easy through means we surely wouldn't know and so on . They haven't captured oil to justify to official dissolution of the Republic of 1923 by its centennary , to be replaced by Ihvanistan . Which would destroy the economy , however its being fake already , because the professionals and stuff wouldn't be able to handle the suffocation as it is a Saudi thing that there will be Assimilation . Which is actually part of the Brexit deal agreed , with people going to Germany and money ending up in the UK . The rest needs to live in heaven which then needs oil proceeds . Oh-kay , we had huge successes in the Black Sea , let us live with that . Uhm , that would make us unavailable to fight UK's enemies in Libya ... That's why the mighty 800 billion cubic meters of whatever of reserves recently discovered was declared as 320 and has already gone down to 270 , which will in a couple of months will decrease to 0 . (That ı was not surprised they have just discovered another trillion in the Black Sea is a given ... on the very day this was being written at home .)

    yeah , our rights in the Mediterranean . Immoveable object mode , our rights stays right there and there will be no pipeline either . What's so hard to understand in that ? We discovered gas in the Black Sea !

    because we gotta die to give A-K-P a victory so that they can match the war of 1920-22 . Giving them the right to call the War of Liberation null and void , as much as the Republic . Considering the mighty victories they have gained every week , nobody understands why they need that ...

    so , now they want our righteous rights , half the Aegean . Which is actually a bad word now , being of Greek origin , so they want half of the Sea of Islands or Archipelago or whatever . Guess who gets to get that half ...

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    this much of a post like takes half a day to write ... But nobody in the world is ever surprised to see me defending the name of Americans whom ı certainly reject to meet ... Once again the one on duty is defined as craving sx so much that begging me non-stop ... So , a little word to the girls and whatnot of the big city nearby ... Once again am fully aware am being used as a ploy to score , one fool coming all the way from America and rejected by another fool who is nothing , actually way below of nothing when compared to the virility of people ! Who make you laugh with my ineptitude . Laugh at me ı don't care . Laugh at the one on duty she won't care for you , because why she should ? Nobody cares about what you do , what you decide , whom you give ... uhm , your love . But the thing is that a country of 328 millions has dispatched them with a belief that they will not cause shame and disquiet and embrassment when they are finally accepted by the old gang as speakable and whatnot and everybody will forget stuff about r16 . They are not here for me , but your boyfriends might suddenly feel dejected , because obviously the the phrase "donunda sallar" will be relevant . Meaning rocking someone inside the underwear , it might not be fully acceptable in wider society , because the only time ı have heard that , it was an all male situation where some guy talked bad of women and the response was like the guy was so "small" that it would be possible for him to be put to sleep with you know what . ı think , no idea on the phrase otherwise . If this was to become known , girls of the big city , you might think it as funny to remind your boyfriends and stuff on what they were once saying and you might end up as a statistic . Beaten up or even more up . Don't blame me then , OK ?



    yay , post #6000 and am still alive ... next episode : Aegean with more wild r16 stuff .
     
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