Info request on debunking "9/11 was an inside job" baloney

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World Public Opinion lists their question as "Who do you think was behind the 9/11 attacks?"
I just read that article myself after looking at the footnotes. That doesn't seem to be an ambiguous question at all. What I really found amazing though was that 23% of Germans and 17% of South Koreans think the US was behind it.

I guess it just goes to show the power of propaganda given that 53% of Americans thought Hussein was involved in 2003.
 
9-11 was an inside job.

No planes hit WTC 7.
WTC7 was in freefall for 2.25 seconds. That means absolutely no resistance for 2.25 seconds.

Believe your government. Just be sure that hot woman hitting on you isnt a prostitute from the American government giving you syphilis

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...10/01/AR2010100104457.html?hpid=moreheadlines

They particularly targeted the mentally challenged, as you hyenas like to laugh and call people like me. But believe me, I dont fall for what stupid whores say... that is your television coma American audience that believes anything a blonde bimbo on the idiot box says.

More and more, your debunkers are sat in their own piles of crap.

NIST refuses to release their data for their WTC7 collapse simulation, after saying they would and after Ae911truth payed them $800 for the information. You can guess the reason.

Your government is evil. it is ruled by corporations, and has been crushing the small people of the world with coups and CIA assassinations for decades. To the corporatocracy, Americas are just another class waiting to be exploited. Its a capitalist world, and survival of the fittest is the rules of the games, and you are all unfit.

Just keep eating up the official conspiracy theory, a man in a cave halfway around the world got 19 dudes with boxcutters to do it... luckily on the day all of americas air defense was in Colorado.

You are all sooo much smarter than those damned twoofers. Pat yourself on the back, pop your prozacs, and keep smiling.

I'm not too well versed in conspiracy lore.

translation: "I'm ignorant, but I have an opinion anyways."
Let me guess, you are American or Brit.

but for crazy stuff the shorter, the better.

of course, research? F that! I already know the official government sanctioned conspiracy theory is the real one! I just need to tell those damn kids to shut up and stop thinkin'! Cuz I'm a teacher, and that's my job, indoctrination!

It blows my mind that the kids you're teaching were in kindergarten when 9/11 happened.

There is no way you could really know what happened during the civil war, by this piss poor logic.
But, you like so many others, "were there" or "saw it on teevee" so now you are an expert. :rolleyes:
I mean it only took the government 3 days to tell you it was all OBL's fault. And you clearly saw the attack on teevee... so obviously, because you saw it on teevee, what the government told you must be true. good thing mohammed atta, (big bad ringleader) use a fireproof passport too, found on top of the rubble

There is the fact that Al-Queda like claimed they did it.

Ahh yes, the old cooked up video of OBL in a cave with a teevee watching it happen, just like America did. It seem so real, because he was watching it, and so were we! he was experiencing it just like Americans experience just about everything... through their glowing idiot box!

Of course, this is the first time OBL publicly denied involvement in an attack, but don't let the facts get in the way of your American patriotic feelings.

Both are denying mass murder. 9/11 denial and holocaust denial

maybe guilt by association will shut up those damn twoofers, eh?

God, I knocked most of his teeth out as soon as I heard that. I think I broke his nose and fractured some of his ribs too. It felt so good.

did you do this with, or without your pet unicorn helping, tough guy? :rolleyes:

Take a look at this guy's YouTube channel. Roughly 50 videos debunking just about every claim made by 9/11 conspiracy nutters.

Oh yeah, Rkowens4, the guy so dumb, he still denies the footage of steel pouring from a column, and says it was aluminum, the guy so dumb he still doesn't know NIST admitted 2.25 seconds of freefall in their last report, and the guy so dumb that he still thinks NIST attributes fire to the cause of the collapse of WTC 7. That dumb :):):):):):), who doesn't even know what NIST says... real good source. That will shut up those damn kids questioning their government.

They're pretty objectively not. The government can't cover up a freaking burglary; I doubt they can handle blowing up a building, or whatever flavor of conspiracy you like..

yeah, all the conspiracies uncovered have been the only ones the government (or rogue elements of the government) ever engaged in. You know everything, Miles. it is impossible for agents in the government to do soemthing sneaky, and get away with it...

except infecting people with syphilis, (60 years they got away with it)
fixing the facts at gulf of tonkin (30 years)
Iran contra (4 or 5 years they got away with it)

Not to mention all the latin american and African coups and assassinations done in your name. But luckily, we got the Washington Post to expose them all!

And BTW, watergate was only uncovered because two brand new reporters, wanting to make a name for themselves, were crazy enough to believe there was a conspiracy, and continued to investigate, regardless of the threats to their careers and lives and professional integrity.

damned conspiracy theorists!


but laugh on, the joke is on all of you. The corporatocracy has found Americans to be irrelevant. Enjoy the end of your sad little empire. Nationalism is dead, it is now the era of the transnational corporation. You will see your SS pushed away further and further, your dollar devalued, and your sham of healthcare taking all of your child's inheritance to pay for every sickness you get. You will be told inflation is a steady 2% a year while every cost will rise astronomically: college will be 40,000 a year for your kids, and an appendicitis surgery will leave you on the verge of bankruptcy.

Keep laughing, America deserves everything that is coming to it. Way too stupid to ever crawl out of the slavery you all are slipping into.
 
Can't tell if the last post was a joke or not...
 
Can't tell if the last post was a joke or not...

Ridicule. I aint never seen that before from some random internet jockey. you sooo funny, funny man!

Maybe that'll shut that damn twoofer up! just call him crazy!


You seem to think an inordinate number of people from that region are "nutjobs". What is your basis for this other than their response to a clearly ambiguous question? Do you have any proof that so many actually believe that the US or the Israelis committed these acts themselves?

Oh look a poll. (notice the large percentages of "dont knws as well, means they don't eat up American propaganda like most American idiots... whatever the pretty girl on teevee says must be true)

Looks like proof the word isn't swallowing Americas lies wholesale anymore... but formaldahyde wants more proof, he doesnt think a simple question is clear enough. The facts must be wrong, formaldahyde!

Something doesnt jibe, formaldahyde! It must be the world is just stupid, and America is full of the smart people.

I mean, duh... how could America be the stupid one? we make The Hills and Jerry Springer! We speak english too, unlike all the other idiots int he world... well, many of them anyways, besides all the other languages they speak, many of them speaking four or five languages... but dammit... learn to speak english!

But America smart, world dumb, cuz America is number 1!
 
9-11 was an inside job.
Believe your government. Just be sure that hot woman hitting on you isnt a prostitute from the American government giving you syphilis

Dang it! I knew I shoulda been suspicious! Sadly now the syphilis is eating away at my tin foil and soon the CIAluminati will start bombarding my brain with mind control rays, rendering all my future sarcasm ineffective! Oh Noes!



translation: "I'm ignorant, but I have an opinion anyways."
Let me guess, you are American or Brit.

I never say "anyways."



maybe guilt by association will shut up those damn twoofers, eh?

Who are these "two-fers" you keep referring to? Isn't that the character on 30 Rock?

Oh, wait... I see it now.... 30 Rock --> Liz Lemon --> Jack Lemon --> Jack Lemon --> Hijack!

All a mere coincidence? I think not! That's just what they want you to think!

OMG! I see it all now! Wheels within wheels, man! Wheels within wheels...
 
Ridicule. I aint never seen that before from some random internet jockey. you sooo funny, funny man!

Maybe that'll shut that damn twoofer up! just call him crazy!

Hmmm... ok, lets dance :)

twoofer said:
9-11 was an inside job.

No it wasn't.

twoofer said:
No planes hit WTC 7.
WTC7 was in freefall for 2.25 seconds. That means absolutely no resistance for 2.25 seconds.

Thats what happens when a buildings support gives out.

twoofer said:
They particularly targeted the mentally challenged, as you hyenas like to laugh and cal people like me.

More and more, your debunkers are sat in their own piles of crap.

NIST refuses to release their data for their WTC7 collapse simulation, after saying they would and after Ae911truth payed them $800 for the information. You can guess the reason.

Links would be nice.

twoofer said:
Your government is evil. it is ruled by corporations, and has been crushing the small people of the world with coups and CIA assassinations for decades. To the corporatocracy, Americas are just another class waiting to be exploited. Its a capitalist world, and survival of the fittest is the rules of the games, and you are all unfit.

:lol:

twoofer said:
Just keep eating up the official conspiracy theory, a man in a cave halfway around the world got 19 dudes with boxcutters to do it... luckily on the day all of americas air defense was in Colorado.

Some people just cannot believe that a simple needle could pop a whole balloon.

twoofer said:
You are all sooo much smarter than those damned twoofers. Pat yourself on the back, pop your prozacs, and keep smiling.

I already did :)

twoofer said:
There is no way you could really know what happened during the civil war, by this piss poor logic.
But, you like so many others, "were there" or "saw it on teevee" so now you are an expert.

What the hell does this have to do with the quote?

twoofer said:
I mean it only took the government 3 days to tell you it was all OBL's fault. And you clearly saw the attack on teevee... so obviously, because you saw it on teevee, what the government told you must be true. good thing mohammed atta, (big bad ringleader) use a fireproof passport too, found on top of the rubble

You got to love a government with a crap-load of resources at its hands.

twoofer said:
Ahh yes, the old cooked up video of OBL in a cave with a teevee watching it happen, just like America did. It seem so real, because he was watching it, and so were we!

Of course, this is the first time OBL publicly denied involvement in an attack, but don't let the facts get in the way of your American patriotic feelings.

Who in their right mind would take credit for waking up a slumbering giant? :lol:

twoofer said:
Oh yeah, Rkowens4, the guy so dumb, he still denies the footage of steel pouring from a column, and says it was aluminum, the guy so dumb he still doesn't know NIST admitted 2.25 seconds of freefall in their last report, and the guy so dumb that he still thinks NIST attributes fire to the cause of the collapse of WTC 7. That dumb , who doesn't even know what NIST says... real good source. That will shut up those damn kids questioning their government.

You haven't provided any counter-argument besides "DERP HE'S DUMB".

twoofer said:
yeah, all the conspiracies uncovered have been the only ones the government (or rogue elements of the government) ever engaged in. You know everything, Miles. it is impossible for agents in the government to do soemthing sneaky, and get away with it...

I guess you know everything too?

twoofer said:
but laugh on, the joke is on all of you. The corporatocracy has found Americans to be irrelevant. Enjoy the end of your sad little empire. Nationalism is dead, it is now the era of the transnational corporation. You will see your SS pushed away further and further, your dollar devalued, and your sham of healthcare taking all of your child's inheritance to pay for every sickness you get. You will be told inflation is a steady 2% a year while every cost will rise astronomically: college will be 40,000 a year for your kids, and an appendicitis surgery will leave you on the verge of bankruptcy.

Keep laughing, America deserves everything that is coming to it. Way too stupid to ever crawl out of the slavery you all are slipping into.

:lol: You've made my day :)
 
Thats what happens when a buildings support gives out.

uh huh, resistance free collapse. Of course, that's what happens when buildings naturally collapse. Straight down, too.

Links would be nice.

why? would it change your mind? No. You can google if you don't believe me.


laugh on. It will not be funny in a few more years.

I already did :)

wouldnt be surprised if you were some braindead depressed zombie.


What the hell does this have to do with the quote?

Gee, I dunno... Im too dumb to figure it out myself.

You got to love a government with a crap-load of resources at its hands.

yuh huh. They figured it out real quick.

Who in their right mind would take credit for waking up a slumbering giant? :lol:

OBL, when he bombed the embassies in Africa. Japan, when they bombed pearl harbor. What's so funny, funny guy? Your prozac kicking in hard?
You haven't provided any counter-argument besides "DERP HE'S DUMB".

yeah, no conterargument, except I named three facts he has completely wrong. Nothing there....

Do you always embarass yourself on prozac, or is that more a xanax thing for you?

I guess you know everything too?

hell of a lot more than you, obviously.

:lol: You've made my day :)

How sad, all you did was bore me.
 
but laugh on, the joke is on all of you. The corporatocracy has found Americans to be irrelevant. Enjoy the end of your sad little empire. Nationalism is dead, it is now the era of the transnational corporation. You will see your SS pushed away further and further, your dollar devalued, and your sham of healthcare taking all of your child's inheritance to pay for every sickness you get. You will be told inflation is a steady 2% a year while every cost will rise astronomically: college will be 40,000 a year for your kids, and an appendicitis surgery will leave you on the verge of bankruptcy.

Keep laughing, America deserves everything that is coming to it. Way too stupid to ever crawl out of the slavery you all are slipping into.

You've made my day

This part is actually true and if everyone knew it we might actually be able to do something about it, but he's right people will enslave themselves with their blind stupidity. They don't know it yet but they are placing their own shackles.
 
I just don't happen to be impressed, as a history teacher, with the plotting and planning skills of Messrs Bush, Cheney, or Rumsfeld

what do you know about Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Bush (sr), history teacher? what research have you done on them to make you doubt their genius?

Obviously none. Because if you had, you would know they are incredibly cold, calculating, and highly intelligent individuals.

But good job history teacher. You can be unimpressed about powerful people without the facts. You must have some special magical ability they taught you in college.

Did you get your degree at Hogwarts, perhaps?
 
uh hh, resistance less collapse. Of course.

Well, it makes sense, a huge chunk of the building was missing due to failing debris from the twin towers.

why? woudl it change your mind? No. You can google if you dont believe me.

Why would I go out on my own and look for it? The ball's in your court, not mine.

laugh on.

Ok. :lol:

wouldnt be surprised if you were some braindead depressed zombie.

I am! How did you know!

Gee, I dunno... Im too dumb to figure it out myself.

Then why'd you post it?

yuh huh. They figured it out real quick.

They did, with the manpower the government has, they can figure anything out in 72 hours if they really put their minds to it.

OBL, when he bombed the embassies in Africa. Japan, when they bombed pearl harbor. What's so funny, funny guy? Your prozac kicking in hard?

A couple hundred < 2,000 people.

yeah, no conterargument, except I named three facts he has completely wrong. Nothing there....

You didn't provide any proof, you just stated things as if they were facts. You need to back up your accusations if you ever want to win an argument.

Do you always embarass yourself on prozac, or is that more a xanax thing for you?

BOTH :mwaha:

hell of a lot more than you, obviously.

Your arguments prove otherwise...

How sad, all you did was bore me.

Ok.

Oh by the way, here's a tip for people who are new to the forum, if you want to be taken seriously, 1) Back up your arguments, and 2) Don't do personal attacks. They only lesson your credibility :)
 
Why would I go out on my own and look for it? The ball's in your court, not mine.

You don't care anyways. Why waste my time on your request for a link? It's the truth, do with it what you will.

You didn't provide any proof, you just stated things as if they were facts. You need to back up your accusations if you ever want to win an argument.

what makes you think I want to "argue" with you anyways?

Oh by the way, here's a tip for people who are new to the forum, if you want to be taken seriously, 1) Back up your arguments, and 2) Don't do personal attacks. They only lesson your credibility :)

what makes you think I am new, or want to be taken seriously by you jackals? I don't care what all you laughing hyenas think. If I did, I would just repeat the government's conspiracy theory, and then post a pic in the babe thread.
 
what makes you think I want to "argue" with you anyways?
The fact you are arguing?
what makes you think I am new, or want to be taken seriously by you jackals? I don't care what all you laughing hyenas think. If I did, I would just repeat the government's conspiracy theory, and then post a pic in the babe thread.
What makes your buying into a theory more valid than if we buy into a different theory?
You claim to have proof, yet all that proof is, is unsubstantiated rumors and wanting to be 'nonconformist'. We, on the other hand, have reports that confirm our position from a non-government point of view.

We assume you want to be taken seriously, otherwise you are just wasting your time and are going to get infracted for trolling. If this is trolling, then you are putting far to much time into it and it isn't that great.
I'll dissect the choiciest bits of your posts later.
 
You don't care anyways. Why waste my time on your request for a link? It's the truth, do with it what you will.

what makes you think I want to "argue" with you anyways?

what makes you think I am new, or want to be taken seriously by you jackals? I don't care what all you laughing hyenas think. If I did, I would just repeat the government's conspiracy theory, and then post a pic in the babe thread.

What the hell are you doing here then?
 
Dang it! I knew I shoulda been suspicious! Sadly now the syphilis is eating away at my tin foil and soon the CIAluminati will start bombarding my brain with mind control rays, rendering all my future sarcasm ineffective! Oh Noes!

another lame comedian.

who are these "two-fers" you keep referring to? Isn't that the character on 30 Rock?

wrong audience comedian, I don't watch television.
 
What makes your buying into a theory more valid than if we buy into a different theory?

nothing. I just tend not to treat such a serious issue with such untouchable, dignified horror if someone suggests it may not be as it seems. Nor do I treat it like it is such an outlandish, wild a crazy idea to think our government may not be the most trustworthy.

But all you hyenas just laugh and run in circles and act like it's sooo funny, and then act like I am a bad guy for not wanting a "serious debate".

Why would I waste my time with such jackals?

You claim to have proof, yet all that proof is, is unsubstantiated rumors and wanting to be 'nonconformist'.

....wanting to be nonconformist.....

Oh I know, its all just a pathological brain malfunction on my part. Yup, you got me all figured out. yeah, the hyena keeps squealing, and then wondering why he doesn't get any serious reply in return.

We assume you want to be taken seriously, otherwise you are just wasting your time and are going to get infracted for trolling. If this is trolling, then you are putting far to much time into it and it isn't that great.

there has been 5 pages of you people trolling just to warm up the thread. The whole thing started out as a troll, basically saying "anybody who believes this is crazy and stupid"

Why would I want to even start when the well has been poisoned so?

Why am I here, same reason as the last time I posted here.... just to let all those who are afraid of being ostracized for actually questioning the government story to know....

...there are those of us who aren't afraid of all you belittling little jerks.

I'll dissect the choiciest bits of your posts later.

Oh gee, after calling me a pathological :):):):):):), who is ignoring reality to be nonconformist, I wonder if you should really waste your time "dissecting" my choiciest bits. Do as you like, but don't expect any respect from me in return.
 
What the hell are you doing here then?

What are you doing here, smart guy? Feeding your ego about how well you can "dance" on an internet forum? Proving to the world how smart you are? Seeing how fast you can pump out forum cliches to make other people "dance" with you?

You gonna change anything, Joecoolyo? You here for real debate guy? Or are you here to try and belittle call people stupid because they dont buy the official government story?

I know the answer, so why even go through all the trolling motions and build up into some ******** crescendo of sly insults and backhanded questions and quiet inferences of people's lack of intelligence?

Does it take all the fun out of your forum experience if I just cut to the chase?

Or am I still making your day, happy doped up dude?

Is this fun for you?

is your ego satisfied yet?

If not, go ahead and call me dumb again... go for it.
 
Your government is evil. it is ruled by corporations, and has been crushing the small people of the world with coups and CIA assassinations for decades. To the corporatocracy, Americas are just another class waiting to be exploited. Its a capitalist world, and survival of the fittest is the rules of the games, and you are all unfit.
Then why would the government want to destroy the very symbol of the plutocrats?

the guy so dumb he still doesn't know NIST admitted 2.25 seconds of freefall in their last report,
Huh? You can get freefall in a gravity well. Just watch the zero-g porn movie.

Looks like proof the word isn't swallowing Americas lies wholesale anymore... but formaldahyde wants more proof, he doesnt think a simple question is clear enough. The facts must be wrong, formaldahyde!
I hardly expect the rest of the world to be very informed on our issues. I mean, just look at how smart the average american is.

uh huh, resistance free collapse. Of course, that's what happens when buildings naturally collapse. Straight down, too.
I hardly think a plane slamming into the side of the building starting an air-fuel fire constitutes 'natural collapse'. Basicaly the heat from the air-fuel fire caused the steel to lose structural rigidity. It bent, bent too far, and snapped. Basicaly an exceptionaly crude version of modern directed explosives used in demolitions.

would it change your mind? No. You can google if you don't believe me.
You make the unsupported assertion, you get the proof. Burden of proof is on you, my friend.

Obviously none. Because if you had, you would know they are incredibly cold, calculating, and highly intelligent individuals.
Cheney is the evil overlord. Bush is the incompetant sidekick. Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity.

but laugh on, the joke is on all of you. The corporatocracy has found Americans to be irrelevant.
Considering corporatocracy isn't a word and we already have a much better word for it: plutocracy......

Enjoy the end of your sad little empire. Nationalism is dead, it is now the era of the transnational corporation. You will see your SS pushed away further and further, your dollar devalued, and your sham of healthcare taking all of your child's inheritance to pay for every sickness you get. You will be told inflation is a steady 2% a year while every cost will rise astronomically: college will be 40,000 a year for your kids, and an appendicitis surgery will leave you on the verge of bankruptcy
According to your location, you are American. If the coming Dark Age is this bad, why are you babling on an internet forum instead of being out there protesting and being an activist?
 
nothing. I just tend not to treat such a serious issue with such untouchable, dignified horro if someone suggests it may not be as it seems.
So your baseless assertions are better than studies done by numerous independant, non-governmental studies?

Oh I know, its all just a pthological brain malfunction on my part. Yup, you got me all figured out.
Another lame comedian.

there has been 5 pages of you people trolling just to warm up the thread. The whole thing started out as a troll, basically saying "anybody who believes this is crazy and stupid"
And you aren't giving us any reason to believe otherwise.

Why would I want to even start when the well has been poisoned so?
Because your argument is so good? Try me. Give me the best 'governmental conspiracy' theories you can on 9/11.
Why am I here, same reason as the last time I posted here.... just to let all those who are afraid of being ostracized for actually questioning the government story to know....
The government doesn't control everything. How do you know the conspiracy you believe in wasn't intentionaly created by the government? After all, they evidently control all the independant groups that confirmed the findings.
...there are those of us who aren't afraid of all you belittling little jerks.
Ah, personal insults. The last refuge of those who lack a real argument.
 
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