Info request on debunking "9/11 was an inside job" baloney

[Airstrike92]

I'm not too well versed in conspiracy lore. I tend to avoid it like I would any other psychotic display I might run into in the streets. But now I have a couple of kids in my classes who like to talk about how 9/11 was an inside job and even, on casual dress Fridays, wear tee-shirts saying as much.

Does anyone here know of any teenager friendly, quick read websites out there in the intertubes debunking this malarkey?

I hope no one finds this request offensive. I just don't happen to be impressed, as a history teacher, with the plotting and planning skills of Messrs Bush, Cheney, or Rumsfeld--presumedly key parties in any such "inside job" attacking the WTC. For the record, I'm looking for resources online, not a full 9/11 debate, although some competing discussions may be enlightening to me. Nor am I adverse to looking at pro-conspiracy sites--but for crazy stuff the shorter, the better.

You force kids to wear a uniform?

Nazi Germany circa 1941, anyone?

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[Airstrike92]

OP, beat those children as hard as you can. You won't be able to convince (most of them) that it wasn't an inside job. Making them fear you is a better alternative for the most part.

I got suspended for 5 days in high school because some loudmouth was going on about how the attacks were an inside job and how the people who died deserved it as punishment from God, I knocked most of his teeth out as soon as I heard that. I think I broke his nose and fractured some of his ribs too. It felt so good.

Luckily no charges were pressed because there was visual and audio recording equipment in all hallways (where it happened) and it caught him yelling the aforementioned things.

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Sorry, double post.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

The ATHEISTS did it with a white icebreaker!

What is this supposed to mean?

This is the same thing as Holocaust Denial, but in a new form.

Not quite.

To deny the Holocaust is despicable and evil. It's saying that the mass murder of the Jews and other people in the camps never happened.

9/11 conspiracy theories are like any other conspiracy theory - the individuals who believe such nonsense are not denying that the event happened. They simply choose to blame someone other than those who really are to blame.

 

[Miles Teg]

9/11 conspiracy theories are like any other conspiracy theory - the individuals who believe such nonsense are not denying that the event happened. They simply choose to blame someone other than those who really are to blame.

So just to clarify, if someone said that Hitler never killed the Jews, and all those concentration camps were run by the Allies, you think that would be a less evil than the camps were all fake?

 

[Masada]

What is this supposed to mean?

The ATHEISTS sunk the TITANIC with a WHITE ICEBREAKER.

 

[Dachs]

You guys can debunk some of the 9/11 conspiracy theories, but can you debunk this?

 

[_random_]

You guys can debunk some of the 9/11 conspiracy theories, but can you debunk this?

This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

So just to clarify, if someone said that Hitler never killed the Jews, and all those concentration camps were run by the Allies, you think that would be a less evil than the camps were all fake?

Holocaust deniers say that the Jews were not murdered. They don't say it was done by the Allies.

The ATHEISTS sunk the TITANIC with a WHITE ICEBREAKER.

Are you blaming atheists because the captain of the Titanic was too stupid to get out of the way of an ICEBERG???

That doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.

 

[Miles Teg]

Holocaust deniers say that the Jews were not murdered. They don't say it was done by the Allies.

Exactly, that's why it's a hypothetical situation, meant to make a point. Now, if holocaust conspiracy theorists were, hypothetically, to claim that all the Jews were killed by the Allies, would that make them less evil than the ones who deny that the Holocaust ever happened.

Are you blaming atheists because the captain of the Titanic was too stupid to get out of the way of an ICEBERG???

Someone had a deprived childhood.

 

[civver_764]

OP, beat those children as hard as you can. You won't be able to convince (most of them) that it wasn't an inside job. Making them fear you is a better alternative for the most part.

I got suspended for 5 days in high school because some loudmouth was going on about how the attacks were an inside job and how the people who died deserved it as punishment from God, I knocked most of his teeth out as soon as I heard that. I think I broke his nose and fractured some of his ribs too. It felt so good.

Luckily no charges were pressed because there was visual and audio recording equipment in all hallways (where it happened) and it caught him yelling the aforementioned things.

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Most truthers don't think the people who died deserved it.

The fact that it "felt so good" is a bad sign btw.

Exactly, that's why it's a hypothetical situation, meant to make a point. Now, if holocaust conspiracy theorists were, hypothetically, to claim that all the Jews were killed by the Allies, would that make them less evil than the ones who deny that the Holocaust ever happened.

How the hell could you possibly convey that as "evil"?

 

[Formaldehyde]

You guys can debunk some of the 9/11 conspiracy theories, but can you debunk this?

1) Nobody was allowed on the roof.

2) There was no railing.

3) The plane wasn't flying level when it was that close to impact.

4) It wasn't cold enough on 9/11 to be wearing a jacket.

5) You would have to have been deaf to not hear the plane and turn around to see what it was doing.

6) The person with the camera would have been running.

7) That building isn't located near enough to the Hudson River and isn't far enough downtown.

 

[Dachs]

1) Nobody was allowed on the roof.

2) There was no railing.

3) The plane wasn't flying level when it was that close to impact.

4) It wasn't cold enough on 9/11 to be wearing a jacket.

5) You would have to have been deaf to not hear the plane and turn around to see what it was doing.

6) The person with the camera would have been running.

7) That building isn't located near enough to the Hudson River and isn't far enough downtown.

8) Formaldehyde is incapable of understanding humor.

Recognize that face?

 

[SG-17]

It is John Titor obviously.

 

[amadeus]

You force kids to wear a uniform?

Nazi Germany circa 1941, anyone?

...thought the Germans had uniforms before that.

 

[Miles Teg]

There are no high schoolers on the roof, what would Narz be doing up there?

Perhaps he was looking to snag a couple of those 72 virgins?

 

[BuckyRea]

This is the same thing as Holocaust Denial, but in a new form.

Please note the reference to Hanlon's Law previously upthread ("Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by ignorance"). To wit: Holocaust denial is evil; 9/11 conspiracies are just ignorant.

You force kids to wear a uniform?

Nazi Germany circa 1941, anyone?

You know, a lot of people may not pick up on your sarcasm. But don't worry; I'm hip to your patter. I know nobody could be that dense.

Obviously having a dress code for teenagers has an ever so slightly nuanced distinction from gassing 10 million civilians for a racist ideology.

You guys can debunk some of the 9/11 conspiracy theories, but can you debunk this?

Is that Michael Palin?

 

[Cutlass]

9/11 conspiracies could be evil in some hands though. See recent statement at the UN by a certain nutjob..

 

[Formaldehyde]

Recognize that face?

Nope. Should I?

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Someone had a deprived childhood.

I still don't get it. I played Clue a lot. I still own the game. I've seen the movie, have the book version of the movie, and I have one of the computer versions.

I read the article, and it says nothing whatsoever about atheists, the Titanic, or icebreakers.

 

[emzie]

I still don't get it. I played Clue a lot. I still own the game. I have one of the computer versions.

I read the article, and it says nothing whatsoever about atheists, the Titanic, or icebreakers.

Watch the video in the preceding post.