"Insurance for everybody"

[AlpsStranger]

What does Trump even mean by this? I still can't figure it out.

I mean getting the prices down is nice in principle, and there's nothing bad about that, but what does he mean by "everybody?" I thought the very essence of Republicanism was "go die or find a charity if you can't afford it."

Or, realistically, go clog up the emergency room and then don't pay. Because efficiency.

EDIT: I'm not staunchly anti-Republican and I don't necessarily think they're monsters. But seriously, insurance for everybody doesn't sound like their style.

Granted, I think resisting universal healthcare is stupid unless you're willing to turn the impoverished sick away from the ER, but that's a different rant.

 

[Arwon]

Lol imagen if he accidentally universal health coverage. Imagen if he single payer.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to what he says. He's a con artist and a compulsive liar.

 

[BvBPL]

I thought the very essence of Republicanism was "go die or find a charity if you can't afford it."

I think you’ve hit on the source of your confusion. Your assessment of the Republican essence is, essentially, wrong.

 

[warpus]

Lol imagen if he accidentally universal health coverage. Imagen if he single payer.

Implements Universal healthcare

"No, no, it's not universal healtcare. It is not socialist. Who's lying to you? Sad."

 

[AlpsStranger]

I think you’ve hit on the source of your confusion. Your assessment of the Republican essence is, essentially, wrong.

Really? So they're for a social safety net now?

All of the Republicans I've known, in person, have been lying to me for decades?

Usually they say "If you didn't plan properly just man up and die." In so many words. Actually one time in those exact words.

 

[BvBPL]

Hope you don't mind me saying, but it sounds like you've got some jerk friends.

 

[warpus]

Amusingly enough people who say that tend to have had a lot of help growing up from rich parents and so on..

 

[BvBPL]

People with rich parents think the friends of other people are jerks?

 

[AlpsStranger]

Still waiting to hear this "real, true Republican philosophy" that isn't "fudge you, got mine" but with a little cross and a single tear on it to wash it down.

 

[AppleDumplingHead]

Still waiting to hear this "real, true Republican philosophy" that isn't "**** you, got mine" but with a little cross and a single tear on it to wash it down.

You guys can have your safe space.

 

[BvBPL]

There isn’t a real, true Republican philosophy because Republicans differ from each other on any number of issues. That said, if you examine the policies proposed by GOP leadership, from the RNC Platform, from the Speaker of the House, and by the incoming executive, it is clear that those elements of GOP leadership are not advocating a charity or die approach as applied to healthcare.

 

[AppleDumplingHead]

There isn’t a real, true Republican philosophy because Republicans differ from each other on any number of issues. That said, if you examine the policies proposed by GOP leadership, from the RNC Platform, from the Speaker of the House, and by the incoming executive, it is clear that those elements of GOP leadership are not advocating a charity or die approach as applied to healthcare.

Oh, yes they do. They just know what kind of response the necessary procedure would elicit, so we're all just paying people off to not insurrect. As long as someone else has something, if liberals don't have it, it's somehow wrong. The top story lately plastered all over most media, from Yahoo to CNN is how "8 men hold the wealth equivalent to the poorer half of the world".

So. what.

The baby boomers and gen x will be dying off slowly over the next 20 years, the millennials can be at each others' throats over who has more of what and how fair that is. If I'm still alive, I'll be living in Switzerland.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

There isn’t a real, true Republican philosophy because Republicans differ from each other on any number of issues. That said, if you examine the policies proposed by GOP leadership, from the RNC Platform, from the Speaker of the House, and by the incoming executive, it is clear that those elements of GOP leadership are not advocating a charity or die approach as applied to healthcare.

Correct. They are advocating "this proven failure of economic policy might magically work this time...and if it doesn't only the poor will be faced with find a charity or die so it's worth the risk."

 

[warpus]

People with rich parents think the friends of other people are jerks?

No, people who have had a lot of help growing up from well off parents and family are usually the ones saying things like "I disagree people should be helped in life, it's every man for himself"

 

[AlpsStranger]

As long as someone else has something, if liberals don't have it, it's somehow wrong.

Those whiny liberals wanting their chemo and insulin

 

[AppleDumplingHead]

No, people who have had a lot of help growing up from well off parents and family are usually the ones saying things like "I disagree people should be helped in life, it's every man for himself"

I didn't have help. I was on my own as a 16yo hs grad, kicked out of my home by an abusive family. I don't think "people should not be helped in life". I'm done with your insults. So tired of you and your bandwagon.

The primary reason I've been successful in my life is because I don't believe anyone owes me a damn thing. Maybe you should switch gears and try it.

 

[metalhead]

There isn’t a real, true Republican philosophy because Republicans differ from each other on any number of issues. That said, if you examine the policies proposed by GOP leadership, from the RNC Platform, from the Speaker of the House, and by the incoming executive, it is clear that those elements of GOP leadership are not advocating a charity or die approach as applied to healthcare.

But they are advocating an approach that will restrict access to care from where it is now, judging by the details we currently have. The reality of what they're proposing to do is that a lot of people now covered under the ACA would have to rely either on "charity" in the form of (mostly) unpaid ER visits to receive health care, or explicit, actual charity from a charitable organization.

 

[JollyRoger]

For the record, when you were kicked out onto the streets, those were streets paid for by taxpayers. Thank us for the help we gave you in having a street to be kicked out onto.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I didn't have help. I was on my own as a 16yo hs grad, kicked out of my home by an abusive family. I don't think "people should not be helped in life". I'm done with your insults. So tired of you and your bandwagon's load of ****.

Promises promises.

By the way, if you truly are the legendary "self made man" you have clearly done a poor job of it.

Meanwhile, I'm waiting for BvBPL to acknowledge that YES, the "I've got mine, screw you" version of Republican theory is alive and well, since our own Apple D Head showed up as if on cue to exemplify it.

 

[AppleDumplingHead]

I was a taxpayer then, too. This year I filed to pay more than you probably earn.