Internet Access: A Budding Right?

[Bill3000]

The difference is, without a educated society, humanity will become backwards again, we *could* survive without the internet.

And in today's world where the majority of information is becoming stored over the internet, it's fundamental for the free flow of information and thus education. People rely on the internet to become educated on different subjects that they would not know about otherwise, and that's needed in a complex world.

Besides, it's required in in all of my classes in school, fewl!

 

[Xanikk999]

And in today's world where the majority of information is becoming stored over the internet, it's fundamental for the free flow of information and thus education. People rely on the internet to become educated on different subjects that they would not know about otherwise, and that's needed in a complex world.

Besides, it's required in in all of my classes in school, fewl!

I still dont think its a right yet for another reason. Internet service is not free and must be paid for.

If you do not pay for internet service you cannot get it, unless you go to a library or school.

And even then they pay for it so its not free like education is.

Once its provided for completely by the government then il call it a right.

 

[Perfection]

I still dont think its a right yet for another reason. Internet service is not free and must be paid for.

If you do not pay for internet service you cannot get it, unless you go to a library or school.

And even then they pay for it so its not free like education is.

Once its provided for completely by the government then il call it a right.

Education isn't completely supplied by the government.

And what about healthcare, do you view that as a right?

 

[Xanikk999]

Education isn't completely supplied by the government.

And what about healthcare, do you view that as a right?

I wish it was but apparently its not within this country.

College education is not a right.

 

[Abaddon]

Aventually everyone will have an e-Butler. To be disconnect from the net is to be cast from society.

 

[Bill3000]

College education is not a right.

Given the fact that college education is pretty much required for every job nowadays except those with minimum wage, I'd have to disagree.

 

[Elrohir]

Education isn't completely supplied by the government.

And what about healthcare, do you view that as a right?

A college education and non-emergency healthcare are not rights - access to them are, but you only have the right to actually have them if you can pay for them.

 

[Perfection]

A college education and non-emergency healthcare are not rights - access to them are, but you only have the right to actually have them if you can pay for them.

This is interesting, what makes emergency healthcare a right but not nonemergency?

 

[Abaddon]

Since when was a job a right?

 

[Elrohir]

This is interesting, what makes emergency healthcare a right but not nonemergency?

Interesting question. On second thought, I'm not sure emergency healthcare is a right. It's a bad idea, and it should be illegal for a hospital to deny it, but I wouldn't classify it as a right in the same sense that freedom of thought or religion would be.

 

[Perfection]

I think rights are fluid and flexible dependant on societies ability to provide. The more society can provide the more rights we should have.

 

[Prince_Imrahil]

I think we must remember that most of rights aren't 'rights' at all, that these 'rights' themselves ARE priviliges, such as the right to healthcare, even emergency, education, and so forth.. the only 'right' we really have is our right to self-autonomy AS LONG as it does not interfere with anyone elses 'right' to this, because then that's where conflict comes in.

 

[mdwh]

A college education and non-emergency healthcare are not rights - access to them are, but you only have the right to actually have them if you can pay for them.

And the question of this thread asks about internet *access*.

 

[mdwh]

The difference is, without a educated society, humanity will become backwards again, we *could* survive without the internet.

We could survive without:
* Freedom of speech and religion.
* Bearing arms.
* A right to trial by jury.
etc.

 

[Perfection]

I think we must remember that most of rights aren't 'rights' at all, that these 'rights' themselves ARE priviliges, such as the right to healthcare, even emergency, education, and so forth.. the only 'right' we really have is our right to self-autonomy AS LONG as it does not interfere with anyone elses 'right' to this, because then that's where conflict comes in.

I don't think we have a complete right to self autonomy. If I were to infringe on your self autonomy briefly to save my life I believe that is morally justified.

 

[Prince_Imrahil]

I don't think we have a complete right to self autonomy. If I were to infringe on your self autonomy briefly to save my life I believe that is morally justified

So then ultimately we only have a right to life? Or is even that right just another 'privilege' that we all agree to in order to actually protect our lives?

 

[Perfection]

So then ultimately we only have a right to life? Or is even that right just another 'privilege' that we all agree to in order to actually protect our lives?

Rights only exist as social institutions

 

[Prince_Imrahil]

Rights only exist as social institutions

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Elrohir]

And the question of this thread asks about internet *access*.

But we diverged. This is Off-Topic, after all. As long as we aren't debating homosexuality or Islam here, we're good.

Rights only exist as social institutions

I disagree. I think rights are inherently deserved, otherwise they're privileges.

 

[Che Guava]

Rights only exist as social institutions

I'd lik to hear this explained. How exactly are rights only social institutions? Do you mean that they depend on governments enshrining or applying them?