Internet privacy, security, age restrictions, VPNs and backups

How have you reacted to internet restrictions

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An interesting option would be for service providers to go over to DNS over HTTPS in friendly domains. Again I do not really understand it, but I think it is a new way of doing domain name resolution that allows a far greater degree of privacy and control and could really help in these situations.

The info megacorps did not like it, so there must be something to it.

Spoiler From 2019: British ISPs fight to make the web less secure :
British broadband providers are fighting a technology that's designed to make internet connections more secure to prop up their own, outdated content filtering systems.

The British ISPs' trade body, the Internet Service Providers Association (ISPA), dubbed Mozilla a "villain" for supporting DNS-over-HTTPS (DoH). The technology replaces the current, insecure DNS system, which leaves consumers open to snooping and man-in-the-middle attacks that could result in computers being infected with malware when a user attempts to visit a legitimate site.

However, British broadband providers are launching a rearguard action against DoH because it knocks out their ability to track users' surfing habits and operate the filters that prevent them visiting blacklisted websites, such as those hosting child abuse images identified by the Internet Watch Foundation (IWF), or copyright infringements.
 
VPNs are great (ideal, even) for hiding one's origin IP and for ensuring one isn't "overheard" on untrusted wifi or other local connectivity (once upon a time, most hotel internet was via RJ45 jacks in each room), but nowadays with pervasive HTTPS the latter seems less necessary.

I'm about to spool up ProtonVPN purely because I'm already paying Proton for pro email and why not, but I've never particularly worried about anonymity as far as my ISP or destination sites correlating my source IP.

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Though I do gather that living in a state/country without any parental-access BS has enabled me to have that lack of concern. And nowadays I'm generally "public enough" with my life generally and careful enough with other personal security to warrant leaving that particular layer out.
 
If anyone is interested in payments processors which are less restrictive https://conjured.ink/ are a collective designing and building the software needed for folks who aren't techies to basically self host without feeling like they're self-hosting. Because you shouldn't need to be a sysadmin to free yourself from the yoke of restrictive payment processors.

Register if you are interested, they are not there yet. If anyone fancies helping they also need that.
 
I just googled stuff about using flash cartridges with a Commodore 64, clicked on the link to a reddit thread in r/c64, and was greeted with a pop-up telling me there may be mature content, and then redirected to a page to upload a "selfie" or submit a scan of my passport. I've already had the same thing with a retrogame Discord server because one of the channels was flagged as "mature", even though it's just adults talking. I'm obviously not going to be submitting photos of myself or scans of my official identification to any and all sites all over the internet. This is just crazy and I can't see how these regulations can remain in force for long.
 
Ya paperz pleaze


Five EU countries are set to test an age verification censorship and survelliance app

Denmark, Greece, Spain, France, and Italy are the first to test the technical solution unveiled by the European Commission on July 14, 2025.

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The tech media is again doing the work of the fascists by not pointing out the rubbish they are talking:

> As the European Commission explains on its website, the age verification blueprint enables users to prove they are over 18 "without revealing any other personal information."
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> "It is based on open-source technology and designed to be robust, user-friendly, privacy-preserving, and fully interoperable with future European Digital Identity Wallets," the Commission explains.

It very much does not enables users to prove they are over 18 "without revealing any other personal information." It does not work unless you sign a contract with the biggest threat to personal privacy that gives them the technical and legal right to full access to your hardware. It only runs on insecure compromised systems. This should be highlighted every time this comes up.

EU age verification app to ban any Android system not licensed by Google

The EU is currently developing a whitelabel app to perform privacy-preserving (at least in theory) age verification to be adopted and personalized in the coming months by member states. The app is open source and available here: https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui.

Problem is, the app is planning to include remote attestation feature to verify the integrity of the app: https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui?tab=readme-ov-file#disclaimer. This is supposed to provide assurance to the age verification service that the app being used is authentic and running on a genuine operating system. Genuine in the case of Android means:
  • The operating system was licensed by Google
  • The app was downloaded from the Play Store (thus requiring a Google account)
  • Device security checks have passed
While there is value to verify device security, this strongly ties the app to many Google properties and services, because those checks won't pass on an aftermarket Android OS, even those which increase security significantly like GrapheneOS, because the app plans to use Google "Play Integrity", which only allows Google licensed systems instead of the standard Android attestation feature to verify systems.

This also means that even though you can compile the app, you won't be able to use it, because it won't come from the Play Store and thus the age verification service will reject it.

The issue has been raised here https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui/issues/10 but no response from team members as of now.
 
Like dominoes...

Spotify

X-Box

GTA

You-tube
 
Apparently, Discords age verification selfie feature can be tricked using Garry's Mod.
 
sadly i can't provide a perspective against this. protecting kids is nice and all, but uploading such sensitive information to private companies, face scanning and such, is completely f insane

the tea hack was mentioned, but it's also significant because tea's privacy protections (ironically) were absolutely abysmal. i don't work in security myself, but know someone intimately who does, and as a general rule, private corp security is absolute crap. this is generally awful and as such policies like this are completely reality-detached
 
Here is a review of some age verification providers

AU10TIX (Used by ‘X’)

Elon Musk’s X (formerly Twitter) has used Israeli firm AU10TIX for ID document and selfie‑based checks since 2023 – originally to verify premium ‘blue check’ users, and now to comply with age assurance requirements. The company, spun out of ICTS International – founded by former Shin Bet (Israeli domestic intelligence) officers – also employs engineers with backgrounds in Israel’s military cyber‑intelligence unit, Unit 8200.

In 2023, digital rights activist and MENA specialist Mona Shtaya described the partnership as “alarming.”

“Hiring a company with ties to former secret intelligence, Shin Bet, puts us all at risk,” Shtaya said. “This move threatens to fortify and weaponise our digital realms. A fate Palestinians already endure due to the ongoing military occupation. It’s a disaster in the making for all its users.”

AU10TIX’s privacy policy lets it process data under the broad umbrella of “legitimate interests,” potentially allowing reuse or sharing beyond age checks.

In 2024, 404 Media revealed a major data breach: administrative credentials were left exposed online for over a year, giving hackers potential access to sensitive user data. The company says there’s no evidence that the exposed data was used maliciously.

Kids Web Services (Used by Bluesky)

Bluesky, generally viewed as more privacy-oriented than other legacy social media platforms, uses an age verification service called Kids Web Services (KWS). KWS is owned by US company EpicGames, known for producing the popular game Fortnite – and paying out $520 million to the US Federal Trade Commission in 2022 for manipulating users and violating children’s privacy laws.

EpicGames offers KWS’ age assurance services to clients like BlueSky free of charge, but they don’t come out of it completely empty-handed. KWS gets access to some combination of email addresses, names, dates of birth, mailing addresses, national identity numbers, cell phone numbers, device identifiers, IP addresses, login data, site navigation data and more.

Open Rights Group notes that KWS employs browser fingerprinting – a surveillance technique that tracks users based on unique characteristics of their browser and device. The group claims that KWS is also known for refusing to respect ‘Do Not Track’ signals, browser settings that let websites know you don’t want to be tracked online.

Data compliance lawyer and writer Simon McGraw points out that KWS – not Bluesky – is ultimately the legal entity responsible for the data collected. KWS explicitly states in a data control agreement with BlueSky that: “If we [KWS] are involved in a merger, acquisition, or sale of assets, we may share your personal information with the acquiring or receiving entity.”

“We’ve legislated for a new kind of surveillance capitalism,” McGraw writes. “As always, if a service on the web is being offered for free, it just means that you (in this case the adult wishing to participate in social media) are not the customer. You are the product.”

Persona Identities Inc (Used by Reddit)

The popular forum Reddit uses the San Francisco‑based firm Persona for age checks. In 2025, Persona raised $200m in a round led by the Founders Fund, the venture capital group run by data magnate Peter Thiel.

Thiel’s company, Palantir, has been widely criticised for its ties to the Trump administration and its US surveillance, security, and immigration enforcement contracts.

Persona has faced lawsuits in the US alleging that it retained the biometric data of food delivery drivers and that it used users’ selfies to train AI models – claims it denies. Its privacy policy promises to delete face scans after seven days, but vaguely allows data use for “service improvement” and, since 2025, requires users to waive their right to join class‑action lawsuits.

Spokesperson Evelyn Ju stated that the company always takes a “privacy- and compliance‑first approach.”
 
I think the internet stopped being fun at the point I suddenly had to Accept/Reject/Manage cookies for every single website I ever visit, ever, and it's just been downhill since then.
 
I think the internet stopped being fun at the point I suddenly had to Accept/Reject/Manage cookies for every single website I ever visit, ever, and it's just been downhill since then.
Of all the firefox extensions I use I think its the "I don't care about cookies" extension handling most of that for me...but nowadays I get some more cookies prompts than before. Brave browser works wonders as well on this regard but websites are getting more stubborn!
 
Of all the firefox extensions I use I think its the "I don't care about cookies" extension handling most of that for me...but nowadays I get some more cookies prompts than before. Brave browser works wonders as well on this regard but websites are getting more stubborn!
I have to admit the way that worked out quite removed any faith in actually thoughtful governance. The answer to this should have been ensuring that the technical solutions are available:
  • If you need to get an answer like Allow/Deny data processing from every user then put it in the request header. It is full of useless stuff that should not be there, why not introduce an attribute like data_processing = Allow/Deny?
  • Why is the persistence of cookies anything to do with the server. The default should be to not store anything beyond this session, and users should make an active choice if they want to be remembered by a particular site.
 
I forgot to set up my home laptop firefox to forget anything beyond that session. I have it for a little over 2 years, boy it was choke full of stuff I don't need. Curiously both the work PC and my cellphone browsers are both on auto-forget.:lol:
 
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