SouthernKing
crickety cricket
HJ hates anything that is too complicated and big, like C2C. Who are you going to listen to, that Brit or someone who is from Tennessee and lives in the US? 

I&B is as complex as some NESes (a lot more than some) and I have no problem with that, what do dislike is how much you write is more important than what you do.
My view of NES is it is a bit like an IOT except it removes all strategy in favour of writing as long an order as possible.
When it comes to 'Strategy' IOT is like the 2 cent hooker on the corner, and nothing but a cheap knockoff of NESing which requires actual planning and strategy and not just 'OMG White space MUST EXPAND'. Don't hate on NESing just because y'all don't understand it or have the mental capacity to participate in it
So... a Dwarf Fortress player doesn't have decent mental capacity. I totally see your reasoning there.