Iranian army to be equipped with S-400

[ParkCungHee]

Way to quarter answer the question.

I'm sorry but to be honest, I felt I could only give a good answer to a quarter of it. I don't know enough about the S-400 to make a fair assessment. Better to only answer a quarter of the question right then to do 3/4 of it wrong.

 

[JohnRM]

Belarus is quite a different situation. Belarus is the last remaining firmly pro-russian country in Eastern Europe. Aside from them their only potential ally are the Ukrainians, who slide back and forth from the pro-western to pro-russian camps every few months.

Belarus is not only pro-Russia, but its electrical grid, military, and economy are all integrated with Russia. There have been talks since the break-up of the Soviet Union of a union between Russia and Belarus. The only reason it hasn't really gone forth yet is the fear of the regime in Belarus of losing power. Belarussians are Russian, period.

 

[warpus]

There once existed a Belarussian language and culture, but those are virtually extinct now, thanks to the Russians

 

[JohnRM]

Umm, I was talking about picking up Radar emissions. The more powerful the radar, the father away you can detect it. Thats not the same thing with using your own radar to detect aircraft. ones passive, ones active.

but this is getting way off topic here. I just think that the S-400 isn't the end all of air defense.

Oh, for sure. The S-400 is not going to deter the United States from attacking Iran, if that is what the decision turns out to be. The S-400 will just add new targets to the list and bump a few current targets on down the list a bit lower in priority.

 

[MobBoss]

What I want to know is how do the justify their claims that it can shoot down a stealth plane? Sounds like a lot of hooey to me.

 

[IglooDame]

What I want to know is how do the justify their claims that it can shoot down a stealth plane? Sounds like a lot of hooey to me.

The same way they justify their claim that their rocket-propelled torpedo can sink a carrier.

 

[skadistic]

Doesn't Iran have a stealth air boat?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,190462,00.html

"Due to its advanced design, no radar at sea or in the air can detect it. It can lift out of the water," the television said. It said the boat was "all Iranian-made and can launch missiles with precise targeting while moving."

Yet its propelled by a giant fan.

Why yes they do!

 

[Tank_Guy#3]

Lets hear it for our 'friends' the Russians.

Exactly how do they expect Iran to pay, then Iran didnt pay them for the work being done on the nuke reactors?

Dumbasses.

I hope they sell them...deploy them....and then we blow the hell out of them.

I'd imagine it's only a question of time. Also, can't lock onto a target if you can't see it (stealth anyone?)

 

[MobBoss]

Doesn't Iran have a stealth air boat?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,190462,00.html
Yet its propelled by a giant fan.

Why yes they do!

I am willing to bet that the S400 could indeed target that stealth air-boat. Perhaps thats where they got their test data from.

 

[stormbind]

Are Russian anti-air-missiles in Iran linked to Russian bombers testing UK airspace?

 

[skadistic]

Are Russian anti-air-missiles in Iran linked to Russian bombers testing UK airspace?

Yes. Russia is flexing its military power and uping its nationalistic rhetoric. With its new found petrol dollars it can afford to act big and bad again.

 

[IglooDame]

I am willing to bet that the S400 could indeed target that stealth air-boat. Perhaps thats where they got their test data from.

Yep, it all finally makes sense!!

 

[George2816]

Last I checked a different country needs US permission to sell US equipment. Junk peddled by the ex-USSR is hardly worth worrying aboout.

Last time i checked if it says "made in amierca (USA)" it was compelete junk

Don't forget the American "I'm better than you so I'll kill you" attitude. Yes, this is a healthy perspective.

blind nationalism is more dangerous then a standing army

Nuke them and claim it is in self defense? Who is going to do this?

Bush will of course didn't you see what we did to iraq??

Do you REALLY think that there is time left in Bush's presidency to nuke Iran and then seek congressional approval? I'm sure he would get a rousing "Go git em, Georgie!" from both houses.

Of course most of the people in congress are bought and paid for by Israel.

In what world do people imagine nuke strikes by the US being blamed on other countries?

Sure the USA is never the bad guy huh??

Sunburn? Are there some super missiles named sunburns? Last I checked, the best a terrorist state could manage was a dingy piloted by people too dumb to survive their own ambush (USS Cole).

Yes, now when the USA gives al qade some anti-aircraft in the 80';s why didn't the USSR label the CIA/the USA as a terror state??

Don't be so mean to the conspiro-liberals, I smell an islamofascist.

Sure, the sec i dislike the bush i'm labeled an islamofascist. Did rush tell you to say that or who did??

You really have no idea, do you?

Sure again, did rush tell you what really happened

I do not C again. Let's try your point, one more time, from the top... please...

From page 1 C) Assumptions are the mother of all screw-ups (HMM didn't bush assume that the iraqi's would like us? Didn't saddam when he invaded iran think that iran's minority would join him)

 

[skadistic]

Last time i checked if it says "made in amierca (USA)" it was compelete junk

Yeah...........

 

[Tank_Guy#3]

Last time i checked if it says "made in amierca (USA)" it was compelete junk

Don't know exactly what you're buying from the US, but I've never had a single problem with US made goods, that I didn't have several times over with foreign goods.

 

[George2816]

Don't know exactly what you're buying from the US, but I've never had a single problem with US made goods, that I didn't have several times over with foreign goods.

Sure do you like the US made jeans?? What about the USA made tv's?? What about the US made news (the whole world -the USA knows most of that news can be faked up?[aka reason we invaded iraq])

 

[Patroklos]

Sure, the sec i dislike the bush i'm labeled an islamofascist.

No, its when you say stuff like this...

Of course most of the people in congress are bought and paid for by Israel.

 

[JohnRM]

What I want to know is how do the justify their claims that it can shoot down a stealth plane? Sounds like a lot of hooey to me.

A stealth aircraft differs from a non-stealth aircraft in three primary ways.

The first method is to diminish the heat radiation coming from the aircraft in order to eliminate or greatly reduce the heat signature to defend against Infrared seekers.

The second method is to shape the aircraft in a manner that will not reflect the radar energy back to the receiver back at the radar site. Most aircraft these days incorporate a limited degree of shaping for this purpose, some even retroactively.

The third method is to coat the aircraft with radar absorbent material. The reason for absorbing the radar energy is that in an advanced air defense system, the radar sites are integrated and situated in a manner as to make it possible to use multiple radar sites to triangulate the position of enemy aircraft. Therefor, even though radar energy may be reflected, it may only be reflected to another radar site.

All of these factors taken together give a given aircraft what is called a radar cross section. All aircraft have a radar cross section, including the venerable B-2 and the newer F-22, but also birds. Most current radar systems cannot detect or differentiate between the radar cross section of a bird or the F-117. Aircraft like the B-2, the F-22, and possibly the F-35, have a radar cross section smaller than that of a bird.

The radar cross sections of the various popular stealth aircraft varies from one source to another, but most agree that the the RCS of the B-2 is about the size of an aluminum marble, with the F-22 being very similar. The F-35 is expected to have an RCS of anywhere between that of golf ball to a basketball. The F-117 is said to be similar in that regard.

What advanced radar systems are doing today is utilizing computer technology to pick up all signals in the air, including birds, allowing the computer to differentiate between birds and man-made low-observable objects and then put those "blips" on the screen that it thinks are enemy objects, such as missiles or aircraft. Until recently, this was impossible. There just did not exist the computing power to sort through all of those signals and report back the needles in the haystack that were stealth aircraft.

 

[George2816]

No, its when you say stuff like this...

And thats the truth?? SO your telling me we are sending 3 billion dollars of a year for israel is because we like them a little?? On what planet do you live in??

So why is it that the USA has always vetoed a UN resulotion on Israel??

 

[skadistic]

And thats the truth?? SO your telling me we are sending 3 billion dollars of a year for israel is because we like them a little?? On what planet do you live in??

So why is it that the USA has always vetoed a UN resulotion on Israel??

Have the US always vetoed all UN resolutions against Israel? Can you back that up with some documentation?

And while we are at the point that its all the fault of the evil Jews. How much do we give Egypt a year? And why?

And can you prove that "Of course most of the people in congress are bought and paid for by Israel." with some numbers and documentation?