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Oliver Cromwell was a metrosexual obsessed with his appearance
Patrick Counihan @irishcentral May 19,2014 04:22 AM


New reports are set to shock historians - Oliver Cromwell was a metro-sexual in touch with his feminine side.
Reports are set to shock historians - Oliver Cromwell was a metro-sexual in touch with his feminine side.



Researchers now claim the merciless English tyrant was addicted to fancy cosmetics and infatuated with his appearance.

Cromwell, perhaps the most hated figure in Irish history, slaughtered tens of thousands of Irish men, women and children in 1649.

He also coined the phrase ‘To Hell or to Connacht’ as he built a reputation as a warlord to be feared.

Now it transpires that he had a softer, effeminate side according to a report in the Irish Sun.

The newspaper says that academics now believe Cromwell was obsessed with his appearance.

The claim has been made after chemical tests on the contents of mysterious pots that once belonged to Cromwell.

The research concludes that the pots contain soft soap, most likely made from olive oil.

The scientists at Exeter University in England say the items had no medicinal use and were even scented with delicate fragrances.

Most soaps in the mid-17th century were made using animal fat or fish oils and tended to have a foul stench says the report.

Study group leader Sally Pointer explained: “The metrosexual Cromwell slathered himself in only the finest quality women’s creams which would have made him smell like flowers.

“This is real top-of-the-range stuff - like going into Harrods and shopping from the most expensive make-up counter.

“It shows appearances were important even for a person like Cromwell, who was very godly, with personally very strong puritan convictions.”

Pointer revealed the grooming products were taken from a small wooden chest containing 55 pots that once belonged to Cromwell.

Curators found four labels previously hidden under embroidered lids that list the perfumes in the products as ‘jasmine’, ‘orange tree flowers’, ‘bitter oranges’ and ‘cassia’, a spice similar to cinnamon.

Chairman of the British Cromwell Association Dr Patrick Little said: “If this was a gift from abroad, it shows that he was not perceived as being austere.”

The chest will be the centrepiece of an exhibition which opens this weekend at the Cromwell Museum in Huntingdon, England.

Article is at http://www.irishcentral.com/news/ol...-with-his-appearance-150741285-237446191.html





Cool. Not really sure though if not using 'soap with a stench of animal fat' makes one 'in touch with his feminine side'. I suppose that is a hyperbo(a)rean thing :mischief:
 
Yeah, I don't think choosing to smell like Jasmine over animal fat actually makes one a metrosexual. If he had the means and -didn't- do that, I'd say that would have been a bigger statement. Personally, I like Irish Spring, cuz it gets strong man fresh.
 
Um, owning some soap implies
addicted to fancy cosmetics and infatuated with his appearance
..yeah... I confess I find that a bit of a stretch.
 
Obsessed with appearance, cleanliness, and smell seems like it would be relative to your culture and age, would it not? If those soaps were a major expense in the 1600s it would at least indicate he's partaking in a remarkably expensive affectation. If your image is supposed to a bare-bones man-of-God-and-the-earth, that is jarring. Just like taking a shower would be in a society that's short on water, even if it doesn't make somebody a metrosexual in 21st century Europe.
 
Obsessed with appearance, cleanliness, and smell seems like it would be relative to your culture and age, would it not? If those soaps were a major expense in the 1600s it would at least indicate he's partaking in a remarkably expensive affectation. If your image is supposed to a bare-bones man-of-God-and-the-earth, that is jarring. Just like taking a shower would be in a society that's short on water, even if it doesn't make somebody a metrosexual in 21st century Europe.

Cleanliness is next to Godliness.
Leviticus 17:15-16 said:
15 And every soul that eateth that which died of itself, or that which was torn with beasts, whether it be one of your own country, or a stranger, he shall both wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even: then shall he be clean.

16 But if he wash them not, nor bathe his flesh; then he shall bear his iniquity.
 
Well, and you might be able to afford some uncommonly Godliness if you kill your way to the top.
 
Oh man, I didn't even realize that was Leviticus. God save us from people who follow random crap in Leviticus. Wouldn't that quote be a form of ancient food safety?
 
Oh man, I didn't even realize that was Leviticus. God save us from people who follow random crap in Leviticus. Wouldn't that quote be a form of ancient food safety?

I thought that when I 1st read it, but then it says it is fine if you have a wash afterwards, which they would not teach you on current food safety courses.
 
Yea, but that's a current food safety course. Not a 2000+ year old food safety course.
 
Yea, but that's a current food safety course. Not a 2000+ year old food safety course.

Why would that matter, if this is written by God?

Though actually thinking about it, perhaps it makes sense. Yeah you ate some dodgy meat, wash that gore off you so you do not spread it around (wash his clothes, and bathe himself ), and wait a few hours to check you are not going to be violently sick over us (be unclean until the even), then you can rejoin the fold (then shall he be clean).
 
Why would that matter, if this is written by God?

Though actually thinking about it, perhaps it makes sense. Yeah you ate some dodgy meat, wash that gore off you so you do not spread it around (wash his clothes, and bathe himself ), and wait a few hours to check you are not going to be violently sick over us (be unclean until the even), then you can rejoin the fold (then shall he be clean).

It does make a good sort of sense if you're operating on simple observation, doesn't it?

I'm not going to fight the biblical literalists' fight for them though. Though I hope they've not been getting haircuts if they want to take up that particular sword.
 
It does make a good sort of sense if you're operating on simple observation, doesn't it?

I'm not going to fight the biblical literalists' fight for them though. Though I hope they've not been getting haircuts if they want to take up that particular sword.

This kind of is one of the things with a lot of "that bit" of the bible. It has all this stuff that is all a very sensible way of running a society, in many ways millennia ahead of its time, and then it has this weird stuff about wearing clothes with 2 different threads and stuff.
 
Oh man, I didn't even realize that was Leviticus. God save us from people who follow random crap in Leviticus. Wouldn't that quote be a form of ancient food safety?

The Biblical commands for cleanliness are far closer to our standards than any other time in history. Much of the problems we are having due to Ebola is due to unsanitary conduct by those in contact with he sick.
 
Ebola is kinda its own thing though. Going to go take a shower after your husband/wife/child has been dying isn't going to save you. You can't even blame it on people eating sick animals that have died, I don't think that's how it jumps species.
 
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