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Shouting at people on the street is just uncouth.
Sometimes I wonder whether poe's law applies in reverse, too. How hard do you have to argue for something until people can no longer tell whether you're doing satire, being honest, or just a lying prick, and is there a point at which you can actually convince people that you're not doing satire just by arguing alone? And could you convince people that you're being honest, even if you're not?I actually thought the first post was satire but we have 3 pages of people entertaining the idea that catcalling is good and we should be fostering a culture around it, in this, The Year of Our Lord 2017. I don't know what's real anymore.
You're either misusing that word or gay.I beg to differ. I find her rather unappealing.
I suspect this is just the thin edge of the wedge though. And is in large part responsible for why women aren't safe alone on city streets at night.
Wow, this is really reaching. I can well understand the argument that catcalling is largely unwelcome, impolite, and potentially intimidating, but how on Earth does any of that translate directly to safety? You can only say it's in "large part" responsible for why women aren't safe if you think that a large fraction of catcallers are perfectly willing to be violent to the women they catcall. And even then it's the violence that's responsible, not the catcalling. The catcalling is merely an indicator. In fact you could then argue that catcalling is a GOOD thing because at least it provides an indicator to potentially act upon.
And that's even accepting the bald assertion that women aren't safe alone on city streets at night, which I would think is actually largely untrue anyway.
"Potentially intimidating" becomes "threat to safety" if you're biologically put into a position where the "potentially intimidating" people are more than likely capable of overpowering you if they so choose.
No it doesn't, not at all. The fact that you feel intimidated by someone has absolutely no bearing on whether or not they are actually a threat to your safety. They don't magically become a threat to your safety if they have no hostile intent, no matter how intimidated you are. And I have absolutely no idea what "biologically put into a position" means.
The rest of your post is just waffle about how, for the most part, men could physically dominate women if they choose to, and then stating that sometimes that happens. Neither point is in question or relevant to what I said.
Through biology alone we're set up in a position where men hold power over women through physical strength.
Fine motor skills, a lower center of gravity, and some fairly common technology revolving around chemical charges and precision shaped metal flip that biological advantage at least somewhat, if we find this to be of relevance.
See, it's not about whether it exists or not, of course it does. But many things exist, the important thing is proportionality. If I acted like any man I come across is a potential threat, then I wouldn't have a quiet minute in my life. That's what you're advocating for? No wonder so many of the women in these movements aren't quite right in the head (the men aren't either, but for different reasons), living in constant fear of the boogie man, what a terrible life.
Put yourself in the same position. Whenever you come across a man who's taller than you, or more muscular than you, or who looks a bit insane, or whose hands aren't quite visible, try to convince yourself they're a threat. Suddenly the world becomes a very scary place, and for no reason at all. That's the situation that you're putting women into who believe the nonsense that people like you spout, and for what? The feeling of doing something good? Or do you actually believe your own narrative?
Absolutely, but carrying a weapon is often not an option depending on cost or law. It also assumes that the victim is in a position where they can reliably use it if they are attacked or in imminent danger along with the willingness to pull the trigger (if it's a gun). There's also the problem that something like pepper/bear spray may not actually stop an aggressor, and something like a knife is likely to get the victim charged with a crime instead of being let off the hook for self-defense.
Then you're just being dishonest (or at least what you're saying is extremely misleading) by talking in general terms when you're actually talking about bad neighborhoods where not only the women, but everybody else as well, has a good reason to feel unsafe.
Well hey man, if my post is "just waffle" you're by no means obligated to respond to it. I feel I made a coherent point, it's unfortunate you don't agree.
As for "And I have absolutely no idea what "biologically put into a position" means," you could read the next two immediate sentences and suss it out for yourself. I'm also certain you can figure out why "I'm surrounded by people who can overpower me and I don't see any accessible help" might make someone feel unsafe, especially when there is precedent for why someone might feel unsafe in such a scenario.
For violence, or for sexual violence? In the home or in public?
Feeling unsafe is not the same as being unsafe. And frankly if your outlook on life is that anyone who can feasibly physically overpower is likely to attempt to overpower you, how can you even function in society? That's mental illness territory.