PrinceOfLeigh
Wigan, England
I'm not sure that's correct. Taping in itself is not illegal, taping for the purposes of distributing is however.Chukchi Husky said:
Is it piracy if...
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steviejay
Now in Black and White!!
yeah, it's illegal to a degree. I've heard stories about how the RIAA and stuff were in an uproar when VHS first came out about how they're going to loose so much money and it'll destroy the film industry and stuff......
anyway, taping is illegal if you go into the REALLY fine print of the law, but generally no one takes note, if that makes sense. in that sense, why is avi's of my favourite shows any different? I've downloaded ALOT of tv shows, I'll admit it, Family Guy, House, That 70s Show, but why is what I'm doing considered taboo and against the law when I could simply sit at my tv with a few tapes (or DVD's now I suppose now we're in the age of dvd-rw's for television) and do the exact same thing?
How is downloading episodes onto my HD any different from that? or TiVo for example?
anyway, taping is illegal if you go into the REALLY fine print of the law, but generally no one takes note, if that makes sense. in that sense, why is avi's of my favourite shows any different? I've downloaded ALOT of tv shows, I'll admit it, Family Guy, House, That 70s Show, but why is what I'm doing considered taboo and against the law when I could simply sit at my tv with a few tapes (or DVD's now I suppose now we're in the age of dvd-rw's for television) and do the exact same thing?
How is downloading episodes onto my HD any different from that? or TiVo for example?
greekguy
Missed the Boat
PrinceOfLeigh said:
yeah, at the beginning of every movie in the US, there's a FBI warning that basically says if you tape the movie and then distribute it to other people, you'll end up in jail for a couple years and pay a couple hundred thousand dollars.
No, if you own the CD, it's not illegal.
How is downloading it after your CD gets wrecked functionally different from making a backup when it wasn't?
How is downloading it after your CD gets wrecked functionally different from making a backup when it wasn't?
PrinceOfLeigh
Wigan, England
Because you are making a backup from your own source. If you download it you are making a backup from another source. That other source is recieving something for providing that service which it has no entitlement to.El_Machinae said:
I'm not arguing about the morality of this. Just trying to set out the legal position.
Ah - but then it's the uploading (again) that's the problem.
What does the source receive in compensation for uploading a CD?
What does the source receive in compensation for uploading a CD?
Erik Mesoy
Core Tester / Intern
Well, if it works like some networks I've seen, you have to upload/server/host/whatever N megabytes of data for every X megabytes of data you download, in order to prevent pure leechers.
Depends a lot on where you go, of course.
Depends a lot on where you go, of course.
BirraImperial
Pura Vida!
I thought it was illegal only if you play what you taped in public or someting other than for personal use.
By the way, what if my CD was stolen? If I download it off the web, would that be piracy?
By the way, what if my CD was stolen? If I download it off the web, would that be piracy?
PrinceOfLeigh
Wigan, England
Same as being damaged. Still Piracy.BirraImperial said:
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
Technically it's probably piracy; you don't have many fair use rights in the U.S.
I would say you'd be abiding by the spirit of the law, if not by the letter of the law, if you downloaded songs that were on a damaged CD that you paid for.
I would say you'd be abiding by the spirit of the law, if not by the letter of the law, if you downloaded songs that were on a damaged CD that you paid for.
I read/heard somewhere that TV stations were arguing that making recording and fast fowarding through comercials was illegal. You know, like with Tevo.
They didn't have a problem with taping, just the fast fowarding through comercials. By that logic, it would be legal to make a tape of a show, as long as you do not skip commercials.
Of course in practice I've seen tapes of live shows without commercials all the time.
They didn't have a problem with taping, just the fast fowarding through comercials. By that logic, it would be legal to make a tape of a show, as long as you do not skip commercials.
Of course in practice I've seen tapes of live shows without commercials all the time.
Cheezy the Wiz
Socialist In A Hurry
If you:
Sprung a man from jail
commandeered a ship of the Fleet
sailed with a buccaneer crew out of Tortuga
and you’re completely obsessed with treasure
then you are a pirate
Sprung a man from jail
commandeered a ship of the Fleet
sailed with a buccaneer crew out of Tortuga
and you’re completely obsessed with treasure
then you are a pirate
azzaman333
meh
Shiver me timbers! 
CaptainF
The Professional Poster
No. Its not.
Stashing the songs in yar booty chest, however...
Stashing the songs in yar booty chest, however...
greekguy
Missed the Boat
Souron said:
The TV networks can pry my Tivo from my cold, dead hands! Skipping through mind-numbingly horrid commercials is probably the biggest advantage of Tivo.
steviejay
Now in Black and White!!
I heard that about TiVo too. it's like skipping past all the "pirate warning messages" at the start of DVD's, they won't let you
and don't diss tv commercials, some are just pure comedy gold. especially if drunk heh. my dad taped the Blues Brothers from tv back in the early 80's (must have been when they were just released) and even though I own the film on DVD, I like to watch the tape every now and again cause the tv commercials from that time are just comical.
and don't diss tv commercials, some are just pure comedy gold. especially if drunk heh. my dad taped the Blues Brothers from tv back in the early 80's (must have been when they were just released) and even though I own the film on DVD, I like to watch the tape every now and again cause the tv commercials from that time are just comical.
