Is it time for another revolution?

[Narz]

I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I'll respond as best I can.

When you advocate armed revolt at the slightest provocation, maybe you actually would enjoy living in Somalia compared to the developed world.

1. Never advocated armed revolt.

2. If you buy me a plane ticket & hire a babysitter to help with my daughter while I'm gone, I'll visit Somalia, probably would help me appreciate the opportunity I have here. That said, shrugging your shoulders & being complacent just because there's somewhere worse to be in the world is no way to live.

Which proves that the democratic system has failed the people utterly. Clearly it is time to raid the armories, and take to the streets. Our battlecry shall be "I rather dislike how things are going on at the moment, you know!"

Seriously, what type of response to you expect to this drivel? No offense but come on, I thought you wanted an "actual debate".

 

[Traitorfish]

Thats not strictly true, there is a occupy movement in my city and they had banners with "revolution now!" on it. Although it would be unfair to characterise the whole movement as revolutionaries, I think that most of them do want "greater inclusion within the existing state apparatus" They're the best kind of activists for general statements We're against war, injustice and suffering, well so am I

Ah, well, I'm sure that they have a few nice slogans, but so did the Tea Party. Like you said, the only coherent message is "down with bad stuff", and, although I wouldn't say that it's without value, or that there's nothing more substantial under the surface, it's far from a "mini-revolutionary movement".

(Edit: And at this point it becomes apparent that I'm approaching this "revolution" thing from a different direction than everyone else, does't it? )

EDIT: I don't know exactly what your getting at, but Thatcher was a true radical and changed the country and her own party immensely. Surely a true conservative would have continued on with the post-war policies?

Exactly- "conservative" in the literal, everyday sense is not necessarily equivalent to conservatism as a political tendency. Neither Thatcherism nor the One Nation Conservatism which it ousted were conservative in the dictionary-definition sense, but inarguably represented strains of conservative thought, developed from conservative principles. The name is descriptive, nor prescriptive.