Is this the end of liberalism?

[warpus]

They're leftists. Everyone knows it.

They're also bipeds, but you're not going to say "Is this the end of bipedalism?", are you?

There are actually quite a few places in Europe where public restrooms are not gender binary and it's been that way for years, they work perfectly fine. There was one at an aquarium I went to and nobody batted an eye. Americans are just inferior to Europeans clearly.

In grade 5 or 6 in Germany we sometimes went to a swimming pool as a class. Both boys and girls and even the teacher all changed in the same room. Nobody cared.

 

[Kaitzilla]

There are actually quite a few places in Europe where public restrooms are not gender binary and it's been that way for years, they work perfectly fine. There was one at an aquarium I went to and nobody batted an eye. Americans are just inferior to Europeans clearly.

Oh crap, this is real and just hasn't migrated over yet?

 

[civman110]

There are actually quite a few places in Europe where public restrooms are not gender binary and it's been that way for years, they work perfectly fine. There was one at an aquarium I went to and nobody batted an eye. Americans are just inferior to Europeans clearly.

Europe hasn't been doing too great lately... not really the best example.

 

[sophie]

Bathrooms were also unisex in the dorms of my college. No problems there either.

 

[Hygro]

Was hoping this was a thread on liberalism.

 

[Akka]

The word SJW has lost all meaning (if it even had any to begin with) and is now just another buzzword for conservatives to use for people who dare to disagree with them.

Actually, I'd like to say that using buzzwords for people who dare to disagree with them is a perfect definition of what SJW are.
And I'm afraid to say that these guys are pretty much eating the left from the inside, and I'm even more afraid that in the end, they will just cause of backlash that will simply swing popular opinion to the right.
That would be the bad ending.

I think of it instead as the rebirth of Liberalism. True Liberalism as it used to be understood demands free speech, it demands personal freedom, it demands debate and conversation even when the topics are difficult or uncomfortable. The exact opposite of what young modern progressives stand for with their limiting of speech, their safe-space culture, and their "everything is an offensive microaggression" mentality.

And that would be the good ending.

Sadly, so far it seems going rather toward the bad one.

 

[Wolfbeckett]

And that would be the good ending.

Sadly, so far it seems going rather toward the bad one.

I dunno, I sense the tide turning. More and more people are speaking out about it, and some of them aren't even random Internet jackholes, some of them are actually university professors and TV personalities. The type of person that other people might listen to. It's happening more and more, if that momentum keeps up we could definitely see this thing turn around.

 

[useless]

What tide?

 

[madviking]

Europe hasn't doing too great lately... not really the best example.

[citation needed]

 

[Manfred Belheim]

Is there some sort of link to a story about what the OP is actually about, or do I really have to watch 10 minutes of shaky camera phone footage with poor audio to try and work out what the hell the actual issue was?

 

[sophie]

Is there some sort of link to a story about what the OP is actually about, or do I really have to watch 10 minutes of shaky camera phone footage with poor audio to try and work out what the hell the actual issue was?

http://gawker.com/yale-is-imploding-over-a-halloween-email-1741191530

 

[Formaldehyde]

Is this the sad end of liberalism?

How ironic from someone who obviously hates liberals and who wishes they would come to a "sad end".

They saw an e-mail they didn't like and a professor refused to ban Halloween costumes then politely stated that he did not agree with them, thus failing to create a "safe space" where only the SJW's opinions have a right to be heard in their safe little echo chamber.

Only there ironically is dialog and dissent regarding this matter. This thread is a testament to that obvious fact.

IRRC 'Black Lives Matter' haven't invaded right wing rallies, only Dem rallies.

That is because they don't want to be beaten, or even intentionally murdered under some wacky "stand your ground" law.

 

[Leoreth]

Actually, I'd like to say that using buzzwords for people who dare to disagree with them is a perfect definition of what SJW are.
And I'm afraid to say that these guys are pretty much eating the left from the inside, and I'm even more afraid that in the end, they will just cause of backlash that will simply swing popular opinion to the right.
That would be the bad ending.

Nah, it's just the extremist stereotype of crazy feminists extended to people who address other related issues in an attempt to discredit them, and predictably people are falling for it.

If anything has hollowed out the left it was when it embraced neoliberalism as a "third way". Golden mean fallacy moderates are way more dangerous for liberalism than SJWs could ever be.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

http://gawker.com/yale-is-imploding-over-a-halloween-email-1741191530

Well thank you, but I'd rather something other than gawker :/

 

[abradley]

There is something to be said about unisex bathrooms, IMO women have a valid complaint that they have fewer facilities compared to men. It's not uncommon to see women's restrooms with lines of women waiting, while men at the same events have no wait.

That said, ain't happy with strange women walking by as I pee.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

They should learn to urinate standing up. Apparently it's possible...

(I mean without making a mess. Obviously it's possible in general.)

 

[Formaldehyde]

Well thank you, but I'd rather something other than gawker :/

Why? Because the article is laden with facts regarding this particular matter and presents both sides in a reasonable manner?

 

[madviking]

That said, ain't happy with strange women walking by as I pee.

grow up.

 

[Cutlass]

........

Why do you hate freedom?

 

[Manfred Belheim]

Why? Because the article is laden with facts regarding this particular matter and presents both sides in a reasonable manner?

No because it's gawker, an organisation with notoriously low journalistic standards that specialises in clickbait "articles".