Is Trump's golf-swing hitting Hillary GIF sexist?

Perfection said:
Making an ass of himself on behalf of America while the whole world watches is pretty damaging too.
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Don't worry, the world already knows that most people in America say he's #NotMyPresident

Valka D'Ur said:
So include a link to this gif, so I can see it for myself. I'm not about to waste my time searching for it.

The gif has been described, Trump's actions have been described... seems clear enough to me.
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Thankfully, somebody else has already done this above, so I don't have to post this gif that might or might not violate the rules of this forum.

Valka D'Ur said:
Since you can't see how the issue is that this is advocating violence toward female politicians (since no equivalent gif seems to exist of any of Trump's male political rivals), then you are either genuinely obtuse or willfully obtuse. I'm betting on both.
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Oh, I was pretty clear in the past about my position of advocating violence against any politician, any person really, regardless of any other factors involved, but let me repeat it for you: I am against advocating for violence in general.

Whether this is even him advocating for violence is a different story though, I'd say that's a pretty silly thing to say.

That was never the question though, you made a case that it's because of her gender, which is just utter nonsense, and you know that it is utter nonsense, given that you have completely ignored the fact that there are indeed no videos against any of his other female candidates either. So you made a case, the case was stupid, you couldn't defend it, which is why you're now trying to deflect to another topic.

Valka D'Ur said:
You and I are done here.
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We are indeed. :pat:
 
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Perfection said:
Depends on who Trump pees on.
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And if one pees on Trump does that make it the act of an anti-racist?

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or just a Russian hooker?
 
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Finally a discussion about watersports.
 
Gori the Grey said:
Assuming his followers want him to do anything at all. I've got this theory that they just want him to keep talking in this way (posting hilarious gifs of Hillary getting hit by a golfball)
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No doubt this stuff plays to his base, they like it and he gets affirmation for it. But this exemplifies the problem that (if some pundits are to be believed - I'm highly skeptical) he is attempting to move past with his new besties Chuck and Nancy. A base-only strategy services at most, 25% of the electorate who is going to vote for him again no matter what he does. The "shoot somebody on 5th Avenue" voters. Governing for those people is an almost complete waste of time. Doing anything for them is a complete electoral loser unless it costs you absolutely nothing with any other group of people.
 
Berzerker said:
Trumps golf game sucks, what a hacker
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Just imagine how bad you must be when you aim for the pole, but then hit a random person in the airport next to the gold course. Wind doesn't explain that.
 
metalhead said:
A base-only strategy services at most, 25% of the electorate who is going to vote for him again no matter what he does. The "shoot somebody on 5th Avenue" voters.
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Nope, all the I'd-never-vote-for-a-Democrat voters will vote for him again.
 
metalhead said:
No doubt this stuff plays to his base, they like it and he gets affirmation for it. But this exemplifies the problem that (if some pundits are to be believed - I'm highly skeptical) he is attempting to move past with his new besties Chuck and Nancy. A base-only strategy services at most, 25% of the electorate who is going to vote for him again no matter what he does. The "shoot somebody on 5th Avenue" voters. Governing for those people is an almost complete waste of time. Doing anything for them is a complete electoral loser unless it costs you absolutely nothing with any other group of people.
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when base voters say this they mean they'll go along with his stuff no matter how crazy it is, they're not considering the case where he suddenly acts sane. If he does that many of them are out.
 
Gori the Grey said:
Nope, all the I'd-never-vote-for-a-Democrat voters will vote for him again.
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They also might choose not to vote at all, if Trump alienates them enough. Or vote the Kasichlooper unity ticket! Or vote him out in the primary.

If his approval bottoms out in the low 30s, he'll get a primary challenge for sure. I would not count that as an insignificant threat if I was him, given where he is now.
 
Manfred Belheim said:
So if a racist goes to the toilet, does their urination become a racist act?
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I can't quite put together a fitting analogy, but this reminds of various defenses made i favor of one Mr. Robert Kelly.
Gori the Grey said:
Nope, all the I'd-never-vote-for-a-Democrat voters will vote for him again.
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Not just that.
But - also keeping in mind your previous remarks - if one was primarily motivated by intense hatred for both parties in Congress one would not mind Trumps dysfunction at all but rather regard it as a perk.
On may feel satisfaction with seeing Democrats stiffled and yet be perfectly content with seeing Republican failure such as the botched ACA repeal.
 
metalhead said:
They also might choose not to vote at all
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Maybe . . . It's turning out from their response to the DACA developments that his hardcore supporters did care about something: being hardline with immigrants. There may not be anything in particular that he needs to achieve, but it seems there are some things he can't do and keep their support.

metalhead said:
Or vote him out in the primary.

If his approval bottoms out in the low 30s, he'll get a primary challenge for sure. I would not count that as an insignificant threat if I was him, given where he is now.
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I've started thinking about this. I'm leaning toward the view that he will get a serious primary challenge: Kasich, Romney, somebody. Such a Republican could say "Yeah, you don't want a Democrat; I'm that; I'm a non-Democrat. But wouldn't you rather have a Republican enough in synch with the Republican congress (assuming there still is one) to get some actual Republican things done?

metatron said:
On may feel satisfaction with seeing Democrats stiffled and yet be perfectly content with seeing Republican failure such as the botched ACA repeal.
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And this despite the fact that overcoming the gridlock in Washington was one of the primary appeals Trump made; such voters would in effect be saying "We prefer this method of getting nothing done to that previous terrible method of getting nothing done."
 
Gori the Grey said:
"We prefer this method of getting nothing done to that previous terrible method of getting nothing done."
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Exactly, but with Trump most if not all of them get humiliated most of the time.
Think about it: You regard Ryan as smug quasi-thief that should get none of the things he wants and Gillibrand as prissy c-word that should get triggered? Congrats, with the troll in chief you can have both. That's something no "normal" candidate can give you.

If that is indeed the cause (i wouldn't know with any certainty) there are two likely remedies:
1. The relevant group of people have to get tired of it (which may take longer than 4 years).
2. Some vaguely left-of-center outsider has to swoop in to say, in essence: "I'll be even tougher on the lot, not just humiliating them but actually doing bad things to them!" (i.e. some removal of percieved privileges - which they could then not do, you know, just for campaign rhetorics sake etc.).
 
Perfection said:
That tweet was a personal insult to Hillary and her supporters. It wasn't fun it wasn't uniting. It's Trump being a plain and simple jerk.

I work hard, I pay taxes, I love my country. My president should goddamn take me seriously.
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You can be serious while keep sense of humor in the same time. Compare that single tweet to the thousands upon thousands of attacks on Trump. If you are not overly biased you will see the guy is practicaly a saint in how much ridicule, lies and twisted agenda he is putting up with.
If you think Hillary and her supporters deserve better treatment then Trump and his you are likely part of the problem of the lack of unity. And btw I have no doubt that Hillary and her flock get better treatment from most venues. If you cant take one silly joke I doubt you are sincerly trying for unity....
 
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This one?
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Oh, the violence!
 
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