If we conquered Canada, France would eventually want it for French Quebec. With their new imperial power with the defeat of Britian, it would have been child's play for them to come in and take it from us by force. It would have been our War of 1812, except with less stalemate, and more losing. In anycase, I negociated an American invasion of Canada that would be handed over to France in return for France selling us Louisanna, which they had perviously been unwilling to sell.
JSNES 2: A House Divided
- Thread starter JosefStalinator
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Grandmaster
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OOC: Josef, ignore my PM "voting orders"; go by this instead, please.
Regarding Bills Before Congress
The position of the Constitutional Union Party of the State of New York on the following bills are thus:
AGAINST "South Carolina Bill 1": New York supports the concept of popular sovereignty. The population of a territory ought be permitted to choose for themselves whether they want their State to allow or disallow slavery within its borders. The people of the territory should not be penalized for the decision they make in a free and democratic referendum by being forced to wait until the people of another territory have made the opposite decision before they can admitted to the Union as a State.
FOR "Cherokee Nation Act": The Cherokee people of the Southeast, having proven themselves capable of adequately adopting the civilized American lifestyle and of governing themselves according to the customs of civil society, properly deserve recognition as an independent nation and the preservation of their rightful homeland.
FOR "State Tariff Act": All States should be permitted to regulate their own tariffs, to best serve their own industries and consumers, and to manage their own finances. However, the power of the Federal government to instate nationwide tariffs must also be preserved.
FOR "Judiciary Act": The Supreme Court of the United States is the supreme Law of the Land, and as such must have authority over the most important national cases. As the regulatory power of the Federal government is concentrated primarilly on the maintenance of relations between the States, it is reasonable that the National Judiciary have ultimate authority over disputes arising between the governments or populations of the States, and that State courts handle internal criminal and civil matters.
Regarding Bills Before Congress
The position of the Constitutional Union Party of the State of New York on the following bills are thus:
AGAINST "South Carolina Bill 1": New York supports the concept of popular sovereignty. The population of a territory ought be permitted to choose for themselves whether they want their State to allow or disallow slavery within its borders. The people of the territory should not be penalized for the decision they make in a free and democratic referendum by being forced to wait until the people of another territory have made the opposite decision before they can admitted to the Union as a State.
FOR "Cherokee Nation Act": The Cherokee people of the Southeast, having proven themselves capable of adequately adopting the civilized American lifestyle and of governing themselves according to the customs of civil society, properly deserve recognition as an independent nation and the preservation of their rightful homeland.
FOR "State Tariff Act": All States should be permitted to regulate their own tariffs, to best serve their own industries and consumers, and to manage their own finances. However, the power of the Federal government to instate nationwide tariffs must also be preserved.
FOR "Judiciary Act": The Supreme Court of the United States is the supreme Law of the Land, and as such must have authority over the most important national cases. As the regulatory power of the Federal government is concentrated primarilly on the maintenance of relations between the States, it is reasonable that the National Judiciary have ultimate authority over disputes arising between the governments or populations of the States, and that State courts handle internal criminal and civil matters.
Insane_Panda
Deity
But doesn't that seem odd to send thousands of Americans to their deaths for lands which you will still have to pay for? And also, even if France wants French Quebec, it won't be able to take it. Do you not forget Austria, Prussia, Russia, and the slew of other countries which France is fighting in Europe? A french attempt at an invasion of Canada would result in the bankruptcy of the french treasury and a defeat in Europe. It would be wiser to allow the French to take the carribean, or their spanish allies, while taking Canada for America securing a purchase of louisiania. The extra income provided through the carribean and the sale of louisiana should be enough to entice Napoleon, giving him the resources and gold he needs without forcing him to put more troops in America and allowing him to continue the fight in Europe.
Meanwhile, the majority anglo-canadian population would be much easier to integrate into the United States than the majority creole carribean, and would not require the admittance of several new slave states. Furthermore, the area of Canada has much more potential for industrial development than the carribean, which relies solely on cash crops - crops which leach the soil and eventually die out due to that leaching.
The Governer stood in front an large group of soldiers. The entire 5th Division of the Army of Connecticut stood waiting in polished lines to hear the Governer give a speech to boost their spirits before they marched off under the direction of the New York Commander.
Soft chatter was heard as the men released their pre-war jitters, and expressed their admiration of the Governer. The governer himself stepped forward onto the platform, and began speaking as loudly as he could manage without screaming himself hoarse. He had already given this speech four other times to the other divisions, and he didn't want to speek to loudly that he lost his voice.
"Today, brave soldiers of Connecticut, is the last day before you march to War against the British in the north. You all prepare to march to fight the imperialistic British, much like your fathers did before you, and much like myself. Savor this moment, when you consider the knowleadge that you fight for liberty, and for justice with our French allies, as much like the War for Independance so many years ago.
Straighten your aim, and keep your discipline these next few weeks, for you represent everything that Connecticut stands for, and everything that your fathers, and our vertans have done. Be confident that you will win, for you are American, and you are free and strong. Do not waver in your tasks to defeat the British for their crimes of impressement and imperialism, for recognize that God is with you, that God guides and protects all who protect and spread liberty.
And Connecticut is the most free of all! Remember that as you carry our flag, and the American flag to the far corners of Canada, defeating the vile British with Connecticut courage and teamwork. Do not forget that here, in Connecticut, your fathers and mothers wait for your victorious return, and the veterns of the War for Independance fondly support you in your prayers.
Do not forget Connecticut as you march, but remember this glorious state, and return home as that you can rest your feet in the Cold sea, or admire the grassy hills, and watch the snow fall within the winter next to a warm fire. Remember that, so that you may return home saftely, and with the Olive Wreath of Victory."
Soft chatter was heard as the men released their pre-war jitters, and expressed their admiration of the Governer. The governer himself stepped forward onto the platform, and began speaking as loudly as he could manage without screaming himself hoarse. He had already given this speech four other times to the other divisions, and he didn't want to speek to loudly that he lost his voice.
"Today, brave soldiers of Connecticut, is the last day before you march to War against the British in the north. You all prepare to march to fight the imperialistic British, much like your fathers did before you, and much like myself. Savor this moment, when you consider the knowleadge that you fight for liberty, and for justice with our French allies, as much like the War for Independance so many years ago.
Straighten your aim, and keep your discipline these next few weeks, for you represent everything that Connecticut stands for, and everything that your fathers, and our vertans have done. Be confident that you will win, for you are American, and you are free and strong. Do not waver in your tasks to defeat the British for their crimes of impressement and imperialism, for recognize that God is with you, that God guides and protects all who protect and spread liberty.
And Connecticut is the most free of all! Remember that as you carry our flag, and the American flag to the far corners of Canada, defeating the vile British with Connecticut courage and teamwork. Do not forget that here, in Connecticut, your fathers and mothers wait for your victorious return, and the veterns of the War for Independance fondly support you in your prayers.
Do not forget Connecticut as you march, but remember this glorious state, and return home as that you can rest your feet in the Cold sea, or admire the grassy hills, and watch the snow fall within the winter next to a warm fire. Remember that, so that you may return home saftely, and with the Olive Wreath of Victory."
Storm Rider
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Governor McKean addresses a crowd of voters outside the Pennsylvania Capitol Building.
"My friends, a grevious wrong has been dealt to America. Some of our neighbors to the South, in blatant disregard of the legal system just upheld by the noble Vice President, have stormed, nay, INVADED our friends in the Ohio territory, flooding the area with slaves in an attempt to turn it into another plantation state.
I hope I stand for all of us when I say this violation of justice may not be permitted. This move devalues the sovereignty of our friends, the Ohio settlers, and will continue to spread the plague of slavery and destroy the opportunity of Americans to find labor in the West.
I think it is time for America to show that such coercive action will not be tolerated. I call upon the citizens of Ohio to join as a state and prove that they will be forever FREE. Thank you, and good night."
"My friends, a grevious wrong has been dealt to America. Some of our neighbors to the South, in blatant disregard of the legal system just upheld by the noble Vice President, have stormed, nay, INVADED our friends in the Ohio territory, flooding the area with slaves in an attempt to turn it into another plantation state.
I hope I stand for all of us when I say this violation of justice may not be permitted. This move devalues the sovereignty of our friends, the Ohio settlers, and will continue to spread the plague of slavery and destroy the opportunity of Americans to find labor in the West.
I think it is time for America to show that such coercive action will not be tolerated. I call upon the citizens of Ohio to join as a state and prove that they will be forever FREE. Thank you, and good night."
Insane_Panda
Deity
"DO NOT FORGET, NOBLE MEN, THAT THE LAND YOU FIGHT FOR; THE LAND YOU DIE FOR, WILL BE GIVEN TO THE FRENCH!"
"HURRAAAAHH!!!!"
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"HURRAAAAHH!!!!"
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Virginia's Stance on the current Legislation:
South Carolina Bill-1: Nay. It should be the rights of the states, and not any federally mandated agreement which shall permit the indoctrination of slavery or the aboltion thereof in any state.
Cherokee Nation: Nay. The Cherokees not only are a nation of Indians who's own fathers were still but savages, but they also lay in a region of land which if the Indians are allowed to form a nation within, will block the expansion of the American population for migration as well as a block for the advancement of American agricultural and industrial advances. Not only this but the forfeit of entire pieces of land such as the Mississippi territory and large portions of the states of Georgia and Tennessee would further harm American strategic interests in the region and permit a foreign power to fund a Cherokee war against the united States.
Continuing on the value of states rights, the federal government can not be permitted to tear out chunks of established states which have signed a constitutional document protecting their rights and sovreignty. The federal government can not just suddenly decide to tear out a portion of a states land to give to an "indian nation." Otherwise it would be as if the federal government declared that New York must sell back Manhatten island, or telling Conneticut that half her state must be divided to allow savages the right to a nation. We can not allow the rights of states be so desicrated by the federal government, lest in the future those powers be turned agains tus the states.
State Tariff Act: Aye. The Tariff act will allow states that want tariffs to execute a tariff and states who do not want tariffs to not execute a tariff. It is a reasonable compromise.
Judiciary Act of 1801: Aye. The states should have supreme power within their own borders and be vested the ability to govern themselves, and the power of Judicial supremicy in their own borders support this idea. The federal governemnt will still retain oversight of interstate crimes or misconduct as is it's intention.
South Carolina Bill-1: Nay. It should be the rights of the states, and not any federally mandated agreement which shall permit the indoctrination of slavery or the aboltion thereof in any state.
Cherokee Nation: Nay. The Cherokees not only are a nation of Indians who's own fathers were still but savages, but they also lay in a region of land which if the Indians are allowed to form a nation within, will block the expansion of the American population for migration as well as a block for the advancement of American agricultural and industrial advances. Not only this but the forfeit of entire pieces of land such as the Mississippi territory and large portions of the states of Georgia and Tennessee would further harm American strategic interests in the region and permit a foreign power to fund a Cherokee war against the united States.
Continuing on the value of states rights, the federal government can not be permitted to tear out chunks of established states which have signed a constitutional document protecting their rights and sovreignty. The federal government can not just suddenly decide to tear out a portion of a states land to give to an "indian nation." Otherwise it would be as if the federal government declared that New York must sell back Manhatten island, or telling Conneticut that half her state must be divided to allow savages the right to a nation. We can not allow the rights of states be so desicrated by the federal government, lest in the future those powers be turned agains tus the states.
State Tariff Act: Aye. The Tariff act will allow states that want tariffs to execute a tariff and states who do not want tariffs to not execute a tariff. It is a reasonable compromise.
Judiciary Act of 1801: Aye. The states should have supreme power within their own borders and be vested the ability to govern themselves, and the power of Judicial supremicy in their own borders support this idea. The federal governemnt will still retain oversight of interstate crimes or misconduct as is it's intention.
KarlMarxxx
Rastafarion Nationalist
Heywood had never been especially fond of boats, and the dubious looking federal frigate that floated before him was no exception. Despite the vessels being more akin to a battleship than a frigate in size and armament, Heywood still recoiled at the idea of traveling hundreds of miles on a lurching, unstable crate. Thousands of doubts bored at the edges of his consciousness, but he maintained a strong facade for his troops sake. They needed him to be stoic and untouchable, so he played the part.
It was only upon embarking Heywood proceeded directly to his chamber, he had some thinking to do. As his wonder at the opulence of his chamber faded away, he began to ponder the Spartan bunkrooms that his men would be living in during the voyage. It was on that note that he opened the floodgates, allowing his myriad misgivings to rise to the surface.
What am I doing here on a Federal boat, taking orders from a Federal commander? What if we run into trouble during the voyage? Will we encounter overwhelming resistance once we get there? The homelands relatively unguarded. How will my boy fare if his good ol pappy doesnt come back?
Only time would tell whether his doubts had been justified.
It was only upon embarking Heywood proceeded directly to his chamber, he had some thinking to do. As his wonder at the opulence of his chamber faded away, he began to ponder the Spartan bunkrooms that his men would be living in during the voyage. It was on that note that he opened the floodgates, allowing his myriad misgivings to rise to the surface.
What am I doing here on a Federal boat, taking orders from a Federal commander? What if we run into trouble during the voyage? Will we encounter overwhelming resistance once we get there? The homelands relatively unguarded. How will my boy fare if his good ol pappy doesnt come back?
Only time would tell whether his doubts had been justified.
"Light Horse" Henry Lee's Diary
August 12th 1801:
...Having finished my term as Virginian senator I have been vested command of the entirty of the Virginian mlitia by Governor Monroe. He has assured me that my former command in the Continental Army has made me the perfect commander for the job. After inquiring what my duties were to be, he instantly told me to gather up as many troops as I deemed necessary to head into the Indian territory[all of otl Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, and Wisconsion aka not Ohio]and defeat the Indian insurrection headed by an Indian leader known as "the prophet." I told him I was fully prepared for the task and my troops would be too. My day's as a military commander are far from over...
August 13th, 1801:
...I arrived in the headquarters of the Virginian Militia today to find it lacking in adequate orginization. I quickly dismissed several clerks in charge of keeping track of several key components and replaced them with several former federal soldiers who I deemed would perform the task with a higher; militarylike quality. I have also met with several of the milita's regmiment commanders who are stationed here in Richmond...
August 19th, 1801:
...I have finally decided my course of action for the Indian campiagn and have selected 7 of Virginia's 15 regiments to aid my campaign. The governor has agreed to these regiments which include: the [elite] Richmond Regiment, the [regular] Newport Regiment and regular Hampton regiment, and the [conscript] Charlottesville, Fredricksville, Blacksberg, and Harrisonburg regiments. I have issued orders to all regiment commanders to meet in Richmond by the 30th to begin preparations for the march to Indiana...
September 2nd, 1801:
...Preparations have been bogged down by the commanders of the Blacksberg, and Harrisonburg regiments. The first having not arrived until just today, and the second by demanding better pay for his men. These commanders were but children when I was commanding in the revolution and have yet to even learn the most simple of leadership skills. These regiments especially seem to lack any form of orginization, and most officers often dally around while their men form lines similer in shape to a whale's back. I have reviewed some of the men and all though some, such as those in the Richmond division, show discipline I have walked into the quarters of several of the regiments and have not even seen one soldier stand at attention or salute their officers. I fear my mission will be put on a standstill until I can get these men into some sort of order...
September 27th, 1801:
...The governor has denied my request for further spending on training and equipment and has ordered my immediate departure for the Indiana territory. Having gathered the forces we have begun the march out from Richmond this morning. We have stopped in a town called Columbia. We still have a long way to go, and I estimate a little more than a week until we are outside of Virginia itself and into the territories....
November 3rd, 1801:
...We have finally arrived on the small port town of Henderson. Here ferrys have begun to take our force down the Ohio River to the small port of Cincinnati on the outskirts of the ohio territory. Here we will march into Indiana and meet with governor William Henry Harrison and his small forces...
November 24th, 1801:
...The last of the soldiers and supplies have arrived in Cinncinnati and governor Harrison has decided to meet us here to discuss plans against the indians. However winter has begun to set in and we will be forced to camp here until spring when we can begin our campaign against the savages... [explains why this wasn't in update; even though it was in my orders
]
August 12th 1801:
...Having finished my term as Virginian senator I have been vested command of the entirty of the Virginian mlitia by Governor Monroe. He has assured me that my former command in the Continental Army has made me the perfect commander for the job. After inquiring what my duties were to be, he instantly told me to gather up as many troops as I deemed necessary to head into the Indian territory[all of otl Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, and Wisconsion aka not Ohio]and defeat the Indian insurrection headed by an Indian leader known as "the prophet." I told him I was fully prepared for the task and my troops would be too. My day's as a military commander are far from over...
August 13th, 1801:
...I arrived in the headquarters of the Virginian Militia today to find it lacking in adequate orginization. I quickly dismissed several clerks in charge of keeping track of several key components and replaced them with several former federal soldiers who I deemed would perform the task with a higher; militarylike quality. I have also met with several of the milita's regmiment commanders who are stationed here in Richmond...
August 19th, 1801:
...I have finally decided my course of action for the Indian campiagn and have selected 7 of Virginia's 15 regiments to aid my campaign. The governor has agreed to these regiments which include: the [elite] Richmond Regiment, the [regular] Newport Regiment and regular Hampton regiment, and the [conscript] Charlottesville, Fredricksville, Blacksberg, and Harrisonburg regiments. I have issued orders to all regiment commanders to meet in Richmond by the 30th to begin preparations for the march to Indiana...
September 2nd, 1801:
...Preparations have been bogged down by the commanders of the Blacksberg, and Harrisonburg regiments. The first having not arrived until just today, and the second by demanding better pay for his men. These commanders were but children when I was commanding in the revolution and have yet to even learn the most simple of leadership skills. These regiments especially seem to lack any form of orginization, and most officers often dally around while their men form lines similer in shape to a whale's back. I have reviewed some of the men and all though some, such as those in the Richmond division, show discipline I have walked into the quarters of several of the regiments and have not even seen one soldier stand at attention or salute their officers. I fear my mission will be put on a standstill until I can get these men into some sort of order...
September 27th, 1801:
...The governor has denied my request for further spending on training and equipment and has ordered my immediate departure for the Indiana territory. Having gathered the forces we have begun the march out from Richmond this morning. We have stopped in a town called Columbia. We still have a long way to go, and I estimate a little more than a week until we are outside of Virginia itself and into the territories....
November 3rd, 1801:
...We have finally arrived on the small port town of Henderson. Here ferrys have begun to take our force down the Ohio River to the small port of Cincinnati on the outskirts of the ohio territory. Here we will march into Indiana and meet with governor William Henry Harrison and his small forces...
November 24th, 1801:
...The last of the soldiers and supplies have arrived in Cinncinnati and governor Harrison has decided to meet us here to discuss plans against the indians. However winter has begun to set in and we will be forced to camp here until spring when we can begin our campaign against the savages... [explains why this wasn't in update; even though it was in my orders
]
Storm Rider
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Steven Stewart stood over his domain, looking in pride upon his 'kingdom'. The complex spiderweb of iron mines spiraled out around him, bustling with activity like a beehive. Carts filled with dull iron ore darted to and fro from the yawning caves, soon to be turned into pure iron metal to be shaped and molded into all varieties of shining machines. Steven smiled, knowing that he held his finger on the pulse of Pennsylvania's economy. This thriving mine complex produced tons of iron every day.
But none of it would have been possible without the thousands of federal dollars poured in from the Capitol building in Harrisburg. The government grants had boosted growth to levels that would have been inconceivable without monetary help. Not to mention it didn't hurt Steven's own pockets, either.
Suddenly loud shouting arose Steven's attention. Rumbling echoed from one of the mine openings, and the workers scrambled out of the cave, still clutching their tools and in one case, frantically pushing the full cart out behind them. The mine collapsed in a shower of dust and pebbles, but everyone got out unharmed.
Steven's attention was distracted by a loud explosion. Dynamite was going off at the opening of a new mine. He smiled. Such was the great circle. For every mine that collapsed, another was being opened. And the whole time, they were creating an empire. Being a part of that was something Steven wouldn't miss for the world.
But none of it would have been possible without the thousands of federal dollars poured in from the Capitol building in Harrisburg. The government grants had boosted growth to levels that would have been inconceivable without monetary help. Not to mention it didn't hurt Steven's own pockets, either.
Suddenly loud shouting arose Steven's attention. Rumbling echoed from one of the mine openings, and the workers scrambled out of the cave, still clutching their tools and in one case, frantically pushing the full cart out behind them. The mine collapsed in a shower of dust and pebbles, but everyone got out unharmed.
Steven's attention was distracted by a loud explosion. Dynamite was going off at the opening of a new mine. He smiled. Such was the great circle. For every mine that collapsed, another was being opened. And the whole time, they were creating an empire. Being a part of that was something Steven wouldn't miss for the world.
Storm Rider
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Pennsylvania votes no on all proposed bills.
Storm Rider
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Pennsylvania Times
Iron project nearing completion!
The promotion of the iron industry within Pennsylvania is almost finished, with profits expected to raise the economy to record levels by next year. Governor Thomas McKean has stated that he is by no means finished with Pennsylvania's rapidly expanding iron industry, and more plans related to it are expected to be revealed at a later date.
New Internal Improvements revealed!
Governor McKean revealed that he recently signed into law two new grants for improvements within Pennsylvania. The first is the Pennsylvania Canal, which will stretch from Philadelphia through Harrisburg all the way to Pittsburgh. The second is a similar process as the recently completed Iron project, which will promote new coal mines and hopefully discover new ways to refine the energy thereof. Governor McKean has stated that he is very optimistic of the success of these projects.
Federalist Party surge continues!
With the enthusiasm of the successful iron industry boom, the popularity of Governor McKean and his brainchild, the Federalist Party, has grown to new highs. The Federalists are now the dominant party in Pennsylvania, and splits similar to the one in the 1800 election are not expected in the future.
Governor McKean supports westward expansion!
Governor McKean earlier today made a pro-westward expansion speech saying "The West is a golden window of opportunity, much like America itself a century ago. To anyone who feels the need to improve their lot in life, the West is always there. Therefore, the American government has a duty to make the possibility to expand west as accessible as possible and for the frontier to always remain open."
JosefStalinator
Я буду снова здесь
Alright guys, im starting the update, I just wanna say a few things about orders.
I'm not yelling at anyone or penalizing them, but if you wanna streamline the process do ur orders like this:
Title: Turn 3 Orders New York
5 eco to:
3 eco to:
Start project:
Other explanations of eco, projects, or anything else.
You don't need to post ur stats, I just delete them if you do.
I'm not yelling at anyone or penalizing them, but if you wanna streamline the process do ur orders like this:
Title: Turn 3 Orders New York
5 eco to:
3 eco to:
Start project:
Other explanations of eco, projects, or anything else.
You don't need to post ur stats, I just delete them if you do.
Grandmaster
Deity
Oh, sure, make us the example.
Jay Addresses New York Militia, Federal Soldiers in New York
"Brave men of New York, esteemed Federal soldiers: today we make ready for greatest endeavor of our times. I see looking into this crowd that you are young men, men too young to have served in our noble War of Independence. That is well, for it was your fathers' war. What we undertake here today is a mission of equally great import; for where once your fathers shed their blood to make America free, you now follow with equal dignity and valor to liberate the whole of the American continent. Britain has committed many offences and injuries against our Nation. They have never accepted our independence or our sovereignty; they seize American sailors at sea, and send their Indian allies to murder American settlers along the frontier. No more. This war, gentlemen, is our Second War of Independence -- it is the Revolution of your generation, the great battle in which the son shall finish the work his father started. So go forth, and set the British to flight from this continent. Go forth, secure in an unshakable faith in God and in the righteousness of your cause. Go forth, and by the grace of the Almighty and the valiant effort of your arms vanquish the enemy who George Washington once faced on this very ground upon which we now stand. In the heat of battle, remember who you are; remember you are Americans, and remember what Americans can do, have done, and will do again when faced with the threat of tyrrany. Remember, too, the American men whose blood stained the earth at Brooklyn and White Plains and above all Saratoga so that you and this Nation could be free. As you march to victory across the plains of Canada, remember their sacrifice, and the noble ideals of liberty and democracy for which they died. Remember all this, and in the moment of action, strike with all the righteous fury of the son of a nation born in war's forge-fire. Remember all this, and seize the wreath of Victory."
Jay Addresses New York Militia, Federal Soldiers in New York
"Brave men of New York, esteemed Federal soldiers: today we make ready for greatest endeavor of our times. I see looking into this crowd that you are young men, men too young to have served in our noble War of Independence. That is well, for it was your fathers' war. What we undertake here today is a mission of equally great import; for where once your fathers shed their blood to make America free, you now follow with equal dignity and valor to liberate the whole of the American continent. Britain has committed many offences and injuries against our Nation. They have never accepted our independence or our sovereignty; they seize American sailors at sea, and send their Indian allies to murder American settlers along the frontier. No more. This war, gentlemen, is our Second War of Independence -- it is the Revolution of your generation, the great battle in which the son shall finish the work his father started. So go forth, and set the British to flight from this continent. Go forth, secure in an unshakable faith in God and in the righteousness of your cause. Go forth, and by the grace of the Almighty and the valiant effort of your arms vanquish the enemy who George Washington once faced on this very ground upon which we now stand. In the heat of battle, remember who you are; remember you are Americans, and remember what Americans can do, have done, and will do again when faced with the threat of tyrrany. Remember, too, the American men whose blood stained the earth at Brooklyn and White Plains and above all Saratoga so that you and this Nation could be free. As you march to victory across the plains of Canada, remember their sacrifice, and the noble ideals of liberty and democracy for which they died. Remember all this, and in the moment of action, strike with all the righteous fury of the son of a nation born in war's forge-fire. Remember all this, and seize the wreath of Victory."
JosefStalinator
Я буду снова здесь
Ok guys, I got stats all done, I just needa do the story part (which includes the war) so its gonna take forever.
As such, I'll post the update tomorrow, but it wont take that much longer.
As such, I'll post the update tomorrow, but it wont take that much longer.
JosefStalinator
Я буду снова здесь
UPDATE III; 1802
WAR!!
In secret meeting in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, governors and representatives of just about every state in the union met to discuss the sudden shift in European power and consequently North American power, and the future of the United States in this new era. The governors and representatives quickly came to the same decision-war with the ailing British Empire. After contacting France and negotiating a secret deal in which America would seize Canada and transfer it to France in exchange for the right to buy the Louisiana territories, the American states agreed on a series of battle plans and prepared for the upcoming battles.
The first step was rushing the war bill through the House and Senate, where it passed almost unanimously with a few dissenters from Massachusetts and Rhode Island. With the Bill passed, the states began sending their militias off to Virginia and New York, where Generals of both states had formulated a complex series of battle plans for the various forces.
Many of the militias were reluctant to serve outside their state, and this added to the disorganization of the states and bureaucracy of some of the larger ones created serious delays throughout both the North and the South. The North, with more infrastructure and smaller land mass, was able to organize its armies into its battle plan and get a jump on the Brits before they could move.
In an incredibly complex and confusing plan, the New York General divided the combined Northern forces into 5 armies, making God fairly confused and annoyed. The armies of Northern New York were first to move out, sailing and marching up the St. Lawrence toward the city of Montreal. The city of Montreal housed the British garrison of about 5,000 well trained regulars, as well as up to 15,000 Canadian militia of moderate experience. The forces wisely entrenched themselves around the city and beat back the initial counter-offensive sent mostly to probe the size and skill of the American armies. Although disorganized, the American militia held its ground (though just barely) against the Canadian attack. The force was left severely weakened however, and requires reinforcements if its to maintain its seige.
The army of the lakes guarding the great lakes successfully beat a small Indian-Canadian invasion force, raising morale for the army and inspiring some confidence in the men.
The army of New England deployed itself to Halifax, one of the most anti-American provinces in the Canadian region. The forces met with heavy civilian and militia resistance, but adopted an incredibly aggressive strategy. After an initial victory against the Halifaxan force, the army sacked, looted, burned, and pillaged the entire island. The army got so carried away however, that they seemed to forget that their mission was to get on to Quebec. Their thirst for violence was eventually satiated, and the army loaded up and headed for the enterance to the St. Lawrence, where the British navy awaits them…
In the South, most of the militias were left within the states, calling mostly upon the federal navy and elite/regular divisions to lead the assaults on the British Caribbean possessions. In the Caribbean there was still a small British naval presence, and that became apparent as the fleet of 35 divisions of ships sailed south to the Bahamas in order to capture the rich Island nation. In the most protracted battle of the campaign, the British with 2 ships of the line and multiple other smaller ships put up a good fight, eventually sinking a whole 10 of the conscript divisions of the Americans. In the process though, 1 ship of the line was lost as 11 smaller ships swarmed it, as well as up to 8 other smaller ship divisions (frigates, and hastily conscripted merchant vessels) before the British ships, mostly damaged and demoralized, retreated to Bermuda. No troops were lost in the engagement, having been kept safely back from the battle in their transports.
With the seas open, despite a great loss of ships on the part of the American navy, the Americans made their first landings on the Bahaman islands. Resistance there was fairly light, but some slave-controlling militias and a few bands of opportunistic slaves, as well as 1 small undermanned British garrison stood in opposition. The Americans quickly overpowered these groups however, and the Virginian commanders were swift to execute all potentially rebellious slaves and those sympathetic to them, exciting a bit of criticism from those of the population who had since grown somewhat less favoring of slavery. The Americans lost 2 conscripts in the battle however, and loaded the remaining 9 divisions to form the assault on the island of Jamaica.
The battle for Jamaica was fierce, and the Americans soon felt the improved defenses as one of their ships was sunk when approaching to close to support the landing forces. The initial landing resulted in many losses for the Americans, but after moving South some of the 1337th division under General Heywood Jablome managed to flank the British positions and seize a key portion of Kingston from underneath the nose of British Commander Lord Albert of Lancaster. The battle for Jamaica is not yet won, but as long as no reinforcements arrive the situation looks bleak for British
South: (-1 VA conscripts, -1 SC conscript, -1GA conscript, -1KY Conscript, -3 federal conscript ship, -2 Maryland conscript ship, -2 SC conscript ship, -3 VA conscript ship, -1 NC conscript ship).
Canada (lakes army: -1 PA conscript) (Niagra Army: -1 NJ regular, -1 PA regular, -2 NY conscript, -2 VT conscript, -1 US regular) NE (-1 CT conscript, -1 MA conscript)
British forces being driven back by American militia outside Montreal
Injuns get an ass-whoopin’
Despite a large portion of the army being off fighting Brits, the American forces in the West have dealt some devastating blows to the Injuns. The Injuns had already been restless in recent times, but with support and arms coming from the British even more tribes amassed their warriors and prepared for a slaughter of the innocent white settlers. Or so they thought. What they found was a large force under General Henry Lee of Virginia of about 6,000 men, and proceeded to be defeated time after time. The Injun forces were driven all the way past the region of Michigan in the territory, but are quickly reforming and are in no way removed as a threat. For now though, Ohio remains safe, and the people of the territories very grateful to Henry Lee for his aid.
General Henry Lee leading his men to victory over the Injuns
Slavers keep swarming into NW territories, PA gobbles up Michigan!
The latest to blatantly disregard the Northwest ordinances is Pennsylvania, forcibly annexing parts of Michigan in an effort to monopolize the Iron, Coal, and control the Western Trade. Though aiding the PA economy, not all the settlers are too happy to be brought back into PA, and many in PA have expressed anger at the government for being hypocritical in its opposition to VA but support of its own personal gains.
Yet more Bills debate, pass, fail in Congress
Here is a synopsis of the various bills submitted to Congress in this new session, skipping the already known war bill:
The first bill submitted by South Carolina failed before it even made it to the senate, hardly even being debated before the Representatives cast their majority against..
The Cherokee nation also befell the same fate, receiving absolutely no support in the South and practically none in the north, another outrageous bill was killed.
News was better for the State Tariff act, which quickly passed in the house but soon was under serious debate in the Senate. The votes were finally cast and the deciding factor was Connecticut’s “yea” vote, which drove some of the smaller NE states to support it as well. In the end, the vote was 20-12 for the passing of the first bill of the century.
The fourth and final bill was far more of a toss up, with half the states from either region voting “yea” and the other half voting “nay”. South Carolina and Virginia voiced different opinions in the South, while in the North PA and Connecticut had contradictory views. The bill just barely passed in the house, mostly due to Virginia’s support for the bill. In the senate however, the bill was finally defeated 21-11, falling short of the 17 necessary votes to pass.
Also note that North Carolina has banned the importation of slaves, the first slave state to do so.
Some new bills have also been proposed in congress, make sure to check them out.
NE economies among others fall as British trade ends!
In conjunction with the already decreasing trade since their defeat at Trafalgar, the war with Britain has totally halted British trade with the colonies and hurt many Northern and Southern Coastal States. Though the damage has been light with France replacing much of the trade, the transition still hurt NE fairly badly, though hopefully only temporarily.
(-Eco levels to almost everyone)
Napoleon Invades Southern Ireland!
Napoleon launched a surprise invasion of Ireland contrary to the British fears of invasion of the homeland, and caught many, but not all, by surprise. The French forces have been marching through the countryside rallying the oppressed Irish to fight for their freedom, a call which many were attracted by. The British spent most of the year rushing troops to Ireland to keep the areas still under control under control, and amassing forces in preparation for an offensive to drive the French from Ireland. The French have already stretched themselves out far too thin, with troops in Germany, the Netherlands, and Ireland finding themselves in an increasingly desperate need for manpower.
In the US, many Irish immigrants migrated back to Ireland in order to fight for their home country’s freedom, not really having much effect on the economies of any state whatsoever.
Napoleon surveying his landing forces in southern Ireland, before heading back to France
“random” events:
PA Coal mines continue to strike more veins, Governor creates simplified maps for God +2 eco/turn
The people of Connecticut sign up by the droves, Trade smoothly transitions to France +1 eco/turn, +5 volunteer divisions +1 eco to project
In Kentucky, Jablome’s courage inspires the people to support the war effort, +2 eco
In Virginia, cotton is now the Queen as well, +2 eco
In NY, volunteers scramble to defend their homeland from Injun and Canadian oppression, +3 volunteer divisions
WAR!!
In secret meeting in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, governors and representatives of just about every state in the union met to discuss the sudden shift in European power and consequently North American power, and the future of the United States in this new era. The governors and representatives quickly came to the same decision-war with the ailing British Empire. After contacting France and negotiating a secret deal in which America would seize Canada and transfer it to France in exchange for the right to buy the Louisiana territories, the American states agreed on a series of battle plans and prepared for the upcoming battles.
The first step was rushing the war bill through the House and Senate, where it passed almost unanimously with a few dissenters from Massachusetts and Rhode Island. With the Bill passed, the states began sending their militias off to Virginia and New York, where Generals of both states had formulated a complex series of battle plans for the various forces.
Many of the militias were reluctant to serve outside their state, and this added to the disorganization of the states and bureaucracy of some of the larger ones created serious delays throughout both the North and the South. The North, with more infrastructure and smaller land mass, was able to organize its armies into its battle plan and get a jump on the Brits before they could move.
In an incredibly complex and confusing plan, the New York General divided the combined Northern forces into 5 armies, making God fairly confused and annoyed. The armies of Northern New York were first to move out, sailing and marching up the St. Lawrence toward the city of Montreal. The city of Montreal housed the British garrison of about 5,000 well trained regulars, as well as up to 15,000 Canadian militia of moderate experience. The forces wisely entrenched themselves around the city and beat back the initial counter-offensive sent mostly to probe the size and skill of the American armies. Although disorganized, the American militia held its ground (though just barely) against the Canadian attack. The force was left severely weakened however, and requires reinforcements if its to maintain its seige.
The army of the lakes guarding the great lakes successfully beat a small Indian-Canadian invasion force, raising morale for the army and inspiring some confidence in the men.
The army of New England deployed itself to Halifax, one of the most anti-American provinces in the Canadian region. The forces met with heavy civilian and militia resistance, but adopted an incredibly aggressive strategy. After an initial victory against the Halifaxan force, the army sacked, looted, burned, and pillaged the entire island. The army got so carried away however, that they seemed to forget that their mission was to get on to Quebec. Their thirst for violence was eventually satiated, and the army loaded up and headed for the enterance to the St. Lawrence, where the British navy awaits them…
In the South, most of the militias were left within the states, calling mostly upon the federal navy and elite/regular divisions to lead the assaults on the British Caribbean possessions. In the Caribbean there was still a small British naval presence, and that became apparent as the fleet of 35 divisions of ships sailed south to the Bahamas in order to capture the rich Island nation. In the most protracted battle of the campaign, the British with 2 ships of the line and multiple other smaller ships put up a good fight, eventually sinking a whole 10 of the conscript divisions of the Americans. In the process though, 1 ship of the line was lost as 11 smaller ships swarmed it, as well as up to 8 other smaller ship divisions (frigates, and hastily conscripted merchant vessels) before the British ships, mostly damaged and demoralized, retreated to Bermuda. No troops were lost in the engagement, having been kept safely back from the battle in their transports.
With the seas open, despite a great loss of ships on the part of the American navy, the Americans made their first landings on the Bahaman islands. Resistance there was fairly light, but some slave-controlling militias and a few bands of opportunistic slaves, as well as 1 small undermanned British garrison stood in opposition. The Americans quickly overpowered these groups however, and the Virginian commanders were swift to execute all potentially rebellious slaves and those sympathetic to them, exciting a bit of criticism from those of the population who had since grown somewhat less favoring of slavery. The Americans lost 2 conscripts in the battle however, and loaded the remaining 9 divisions to form the assault on the island of Jamaica.
The battle for Jamaica was fierce, and the Americans soon felt the improved defenses as one of their ships was sunk when approaching to close to support the landing forces. The initial landing resulted in many losses for the Americans, but after moving South some of the 1337th division under General Heywood Jablome managed to flank the British positions and seize a key portion of Kingston from underneath the nose of British Commander Lord Albert of Lancaster. The battle for Jamaica is not yet won, but as long as no reinforcements arrive the situation looks bleak for British
South: (-1 VA conscripts, -1 SC conscript, -1GA conscript, -1KY Conscript, -3 federal conscript ship, -2 Maryland conscript ship, -2 SC conscript ship, -3 VA conscript ship, -1 NC conscript ship).
Canada (lakes army: -1 PA conscript) (Niagra Army: -1 NJ regular, -1 PA regular, -2 NY conscript, -2 VT conscript, -1 US regular) NE (-1 CT conscript, -1 MA conscript)
British forces being driven back by American militia outside Montreal
Injuns get an ass-whoopin’
Despite a large portion of the army being off fighting Brits, the American forces in the West have dealt some devastating blows to the Injuns. The Injuns had already been restless in recent times, but with support and arms coming from the British even more tribes amassed their warriors and prepared for a slaughter of the innocent white settlers. Or so they thought. What they found was a large force under General Henry Lee of Virginia of about 6,000 men, and proceeded to be defeated time after time. The Injun forces were driven all the way past the region of Michigan in the territory, but are quickly reforming and are in no way removed as a threat. For now though, Ohio remains safe, and the people of the territories very grateful to Henry Lee for his aid.
General Henry Lee leading his men to victory over the Injuns
Slavers keep swarming into NW territories, PA gobbles up Michigan!
The latest to blatantly disregard the Northwest ordinances is Pennsylvania, forcibly annexing parts of Michigan in an effort to monopolize the Iron, Coal, and control the Western Trade. Though aiding the PA economy, not all the settlers are too happy to be brought back into PA, and many in PA have expressed anger at the government for being hypocritical in its opposition to VA but support of its own personal gains.
Yet more Bills debate, pass, fail in Congress
Here is a synopsis of the various bills submitted to Congress in this new session, skipping the already known war bill:
The first bill submitted by South Carolina failed before it even made it to the senate, hardly even being debated before the Representatives cast their majority against..
The Cherokee nation also befell the same fate, receiving absolutely no support in the South and practically none in the north, another outrageous bill was killed.
News was better for the State Tariff act, which quickly passed in the house but soon was under serious debate in the Senate. The votes were finally cast and the deciding factor was Connecticut’s “yea” vote, which drove some of the smaller NE states to support it as well. In the end, the vote was 20-12 for the passing of the first bill of the century.
The fourth and final bill was far more of a toss up, with half the states from either region voting “yea” and the other half voting “nay”. South Carolina and Virginia voiced different opinions in the South, while in the North PA and Connecticut had contradictory views. The bill just barely passed in the house, mostly due to Virginia’s support for the bill. In the senate however, the bill was finally defeated 21-11, falling short of the 17 necessary votes to pass.
Also note that North Carolina has banned the importation of slaves, the first slave state to do so.
Some new bills have also been proposed in congress, make sure to check them out.
NE economies among others fall as British trade ends!
In conjunction with the already decreasing trade since their defeat at Trafalgar, the war with Britain has totally halted British trade with the colonies and hurt many Northern and Southern Coastal States. Though the damage has been light with France replacing much of the trade, the transition still hurt NE fairly badly, though hopefully only temporarily.
(-Eco levels to almost everyone)
Napoleon Invades Southern Ireland!
Napoleon launched a surprise invasion of Ireland contrary to the British fears of invasion of the homeland, and caught many, but not all, by surprise. The French forces have been marching through the countryside rallying the oppressed Irish to fight for their freedom, a call which many were attracted by. The British spent most of the year rushing troops to Ireland to keep the areas still under control under control, and amassing forces in preparation for an offensive to drive the French from Ireland. The French have already stretched themselves out far too thin, with troops in Germany, the Netherlands, and Ireland finding themselves in an increasingly desperate need for manpower.
In the US, many Irish immigrants migrated back to Ireland in order to fight for their home country’s freedom, not really having much effect on the economies of any state whatsoever.
Napoleon surveying his landing forces in southern Ireland, before heading back to France
“random” events:
PA Coal mines continue to strike more veins, Governor creates simplified maps for God +2 eco/turn
The people of Connecticut sign up by the droves, Trade smoothly transitions to France +1 eco/turn, +5 volunteer divisions +1 eco to project
In Kentucky, Jablome’s courage inspires the people to support the war effort, +2 eco
In Virginia, cotton is now the Queen as well, +2 eco
In NY, volunteers scramble to defend their homeland from Injun and Canadian oppression, +3 volunteer divisions
JosefStalinator
Я буду снова здесь
JosefStalinator
Я буду снова здесь
All done cept stats, I needa take off the war casualties and adjust the economy appropriately, as well as add some volunteer divisions to some of the states.
We demand Pennsylvania retreat from it's annexation of federally mandated land in which every state gave up claim to 15 years ago. If Pennsylvania refuses to do so we will be forced to take measures with fellow states to try and isolate Pennsylvania and force her to obey the commitments it has made towards the federal government.
Pennsylvania will not use this time of war as a way to squirm her way into sneaking one past the backs of the rest of the Union.
Pennsylvania will not use this time of war as a way to squirm her way into sneaking one past the backs of the rest of the Union.
