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Jury vote: The People of the State of Yasutan vs. Joe Harker

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Demo Game II: Polls' started by Lockesdonkey, Jul 27, 2007.

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In the matter of the People vs. Joe Harker, how do you find?

Poll closed Jul 29, 2007.
  1. Innocent

    10 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. Guilty

    10 vote(s)
    50.0%
  3. Abstain

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. ori

    ori Repair Guy Super Moderator

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    Definitive? No only when the Chief Justice has ruled as well and concluded this trial. However the court does decide by simple majority if you want to know this.
    Edit: ...and of course there is always the chance of divine intervention that prevents the Chief Justice to conclude this trial this term - so that the next court has to rule :evil:
     
  2. donsig

    donsig Low level intermediary

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    Ori, that was the worst judicial decison I have ever seen. The game play scheduling initiative clearly states (as you quote) that the date and time of the initiative must be announced. To claim this does not mean the exact time is foolish and makes a mockery of the democracy game laws and judiciary.
     
  3. ori

    ori Repair Guy Super Moderator

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    The question here really is whether monday night is ok or not - but that will probably remain disputed between us.
    I do believe that this Initiative demands an earliest time the save will be played. Since I don't think you want to mandate an online session - I understand that you would have wanted something like say 1300 GMT and if he then posted the save 4 hours later and said he now completed the session you would be ok (I think - but I am a terrible mind reader).
    For the dispute: he did say Monday - so the date was definitely clear enough. He did say "night" which is what we are arguing about - I feel that this has been acceptable within the Initiative but I don't think we will agree on this.
     
  4. Lockesdonkey

    Lockesdonkey Liberal Jihadist

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    Since it's already decided, I will simply join ori's decision; I was uncertain about what to do and expecting to weigh essentially the equivalent of closing arguments. Having essentially heard a confession of judgment on the part of the State of Yasutan, I rule that Joe Harker is not guilty, and wash my hands of this matter.
     
  5. DaveShack

    DaveShack Inventor Retired Moderator

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    This is why I asked the question of whether we really wanted the Judiciary to give a ruling. The reason we make trial, sentencing, and election polls private is to let people vote their conscience without fear of ridicule.
     
  6. Hyronymus

    Hyronymus Troop leader

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    I'm glad the Supreme Court doesn't offer a way to appeal a court decision.
     
  7. robboo

    robboo Deity

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    I cant wait for Joe's counter suit for slander and damages.....

    /joking
     
  8. donsig

    donsig Low level intermediary

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    Ridicule? Disgust is more like it.

    Now, you stick up for private polls. :rolleyes:

    BTW, who wrote the judicial procedures that called for the judiciary to rule in a tie anyway? :rolleyes: :wallbash:
     
  9. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    Ridicule are only for those on the outside of the "Brotherhood" it seems.
     
  10. DaveShack

    DaveShack Inventor Retired Moderator

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    Move over, I'd like to :wallbash: too.

    Honestly, I didn't even know it was in the procedures until someone else pointed it out. Is it a fair assumption you won't object to removing it from this term's procedures?
     
  11. donsig

    donsig Low level intermediary

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    I would be happy to help you dispose of that and any other procedures that need cleaning up. :D

    If we have the time I think it would also be beneficial to get our laws (initiatives) organized into one place. I couldn't find a CoL anywhere and had to dig through old polls to see what was an initiative that passed and what wasn't. :crazyeye: This may not be the judiciary's job but if no one else is doing it...
     
  12. Methos

    Methos HoF Quattromaster Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    I'm looking forward to this term and am very interested in the work you all do. :)
     
  13. Nobody

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    I don't care if you don't like the way i ruled, i didn't get involved in your silly poll debates i only cared at all because joe harker was accused and it was my job to defend him.
    Did you really expect the public defend to find him guilty? Maybe you would have but not me.
     
  14. Nobody

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    there wont be any work for them, the only person petty enough to bring a case like this is the new public defender.
     
  15. fed1943

    fed1943 Emperor

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    " Roma loquit, causa finita"

    The People and the Court had spoken, the case is over.

    Best regards,
     
  16. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    Rome has spoken - case over.
     
  17. DaveShack

    DaveShack Inventor Retired Moderator

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    Moderator Action: Case closed, thread closed.
     
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