K-Mod Deity game(s)

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I just noticed how badly i wrote that, sorry..
will continue this one until it's won or lost, /exit ment closing the game for today (yesterday)

Yup the loveless state of this mod in terms of UI and screens was why i never really tried before, i actually like some small annoyances and if relis can poof that's okay imo (just like Wang causing a city revolt in my Cap). It's a bit like random events could be if they were better.

But in terms of playing comfort it's terrible after something like BAT, for sure.
Like playing a beta version before it's released.

 

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620AD, Cuirs time..soon the games will begin ~~

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hmm trying a bit of report, at some point MC was available for trade

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I traded for Ivory, and my Jumbos from HE city were allowed to play with barbs

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AP holy war against Sury..

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Wang also tried 2x to convert my captured barb city via AP, at this point you just want to kill them..
Lib was just bulbed, compass needed first and now i can trade for machinery. Nobody had compass, great tech for gold as well

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While waiting for gunpowder, i was trying to let cities grow or whip forges. Gold was enuf to upgrade all ellies, 9 Cuirs already here before whipping.

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I would like to hit Wang before longbows, he has this in Seoul..plenty units but they are all weak still.

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I would think that big amounts of Cuirs will be needed. Once they are rolling, we will see how it goes with quality vs. masses

 

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Dawn of Battle (until 800AD)

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Quickly we get ready for a peaceful liberation of korean cities, army splitted for t1 hits on

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not the fairest of odds for sure, but what can you do
The ground turns red as underequipped light blue soldiers fall, overwhelmed by much stronger attackers..

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Expecting Wangs stack of surprisingly many Spears and some other stuff hitting me back next turn, i upgrade a dog to mace and add 3 healthy Cuirs..but instead of attacking or moving back, he parks them in front of me..hmm..

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I hit them with some healthy Cuirs, that goes well. Then i make a costly mistake, expecting he will take cease fire i let my guys split. But while he will talk, he will not accept cease fire..+1 points for kmod AI. That costs me 4 or 5 Cuirs next turn, but his stack will also be gone and i think it still would have been smarter to go back into his Cap.

Afterwards, still a bit surprised, i gather most of my guys around his Cap and last city. He now reached Feuda, and 2 longbows are inside.

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We can also see bye bye Sury, no vassaling for him..
Ending the turn before Wang will leave this world too, i get surprised again..still only 2 longbows, archers not upgraded and no new ones whipped.
Expected a bit better there, and so..

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3 more Cuirs dead, his longbows did their job ~~
Our remaining army..

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28 Cuirs. Needs to be increased for the next liberation war, cos:

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not bad..while an easy target outside, such stacks in cities will require raw force
I also need to think about getting Engi from Charly now, makes sense i think

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and ofc who should we attack next. No easy targets left with Sury destroyed, HC would be but he vassaled (as usual you might say, yup).
Will include "diplo" as well, like begging for gold or maybe bribing cos stacks like the one above can hurt when they backstab.

 

[dutchfire]

If you can bribe Charly into a war, you could then declare on him and take out HC. Even getting all of them into a war could be useful, that'll reduce the stacks. Getting Steel will surely help a lot in dealing with huge stacks of medieval troops. Cuirs vs Landsknecht is ugly.

 

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For sure, only Charly can be bribed thou and i would either have to give him very expensive techs or declare on Willy myself first to make that much cheaper.
Think i will heal, plunder and wait a bit first.

Teching towards Cavs (PP bulb, economics) might be the elegant way here.

Yup i will try that, it's not that far for economics and the merchant will then allow Rifling.
I have the army should anyone attack, and HE city can keep producing more while other cities help with the economy.
Not in the mood for endless Cuirs massacres

 

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Peace and Harmony AD960

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Okay so we take Feuda from Hammi for Philo, Engineering from Charly for Philo + Paper (his vassal HC already had paper, so no biggie) and 300g or so from Willy for Philo. Nice return overall.

Plunder and rebuilding around Wang's cities

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I send some Cuirs & HAs to plunder where Sury was too, and meet HC's guys on the way..

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Suddenly i think, we have marble..we have Natio..and we have this city here with forests

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Why are we not going for the shiny Taj? Very good question, marble deal cancelled & forge whipped. Now we do

Charly leverages his Imp trait a bit more, and grabs ex-Sury land. They really reduced him to nothing lol, most tiles are empty and plundered.
But we still find some nice cottages on stuff closer to HC

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Which really helps with teching until Economics, banking in 3t..decent progress, and AIs are not breaking any barriers with teching still so there's more time.
Who can spot all the funny stuff in this pic?

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Taking a builder break can be entertaining, glad i made that decision.
Charly tries to beg for Edu..but umm nope, my Cuirs are not scared of your medieval junk.
Just in case we beg for 50g, something reasonable compared to his 3k beakers wish. And yup

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Funny part here is, i could only do that cos i voted for him as AP leader and got pleased back.
The revolt chance in Seoul is slightly..confusing, with so many Cuirs in there?

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and just to show that those numbers are complete nonsense, it happens on t1..as usual

Hmm..not giving him stuff for free, but this might be worth considering

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Then again i not really need that war now, and maybe it's better to keep him behind in techs?
Let's think for a bit, also adding a new save.

 

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Barb city has no food and cannot be reached by land?
A warrior in 900 AD.

 

[Lain]

Nicely done. Hm, even though everyone has medieval trash armies, it's not thaat easy to just kill them with Cuirs right? On a normal bts game it would be game over right now. Especially if the biggest guy only has 11 cities. Of course normal AI could already be close to Rifling.

I like your idea of Economics+Cavs. Would definitely consider that bribe. Getting attacked right now wouldn't kill you, but hmm mad AI whipping from 11 cities would slow you down a bit probably.

 

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Also 666 gold dutchfire, but yup mostly the barbs and something else i forgot by now

I decided to not bribe Lain cos of ~8 turns peace treaty left, turns out you can always trust those AIs to start wars by themselves..details inside (1060 AD)

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Peace for 2 or 3 more turns, then Hammi gets attacked by Charly with this little stack

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Meanwhile i delay the Taj GA for some turns for fail gold, my worker army busy chopping here

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It's timing better with economics completed anyways, can then switch into all Civics and get more overall.

My super medic Cuir enjoys watching them fight, Hammi uses this as defense against the big stack..16 Maces, maybe they can hold a bit?

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Then again maybe not, next turn..

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Willy decides he misses all the fun, perfect

Hammi's maces must be growing on trees, or maybe he actually moved his guys out of the city? That would be smart, counter attack..!

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but watch out Hammi, he's coming back. Whew, success

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1t earlier i started my Taj GA, and bulbed PP.
Great Merchant on his way to Babylon (ToA), not like this would be a war zone currently..

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His Cuir escorts are more for roleplay value, i think.

 

[Gumbolt]

Seems to me Ai just spam units on K mod. So less rex and more wars. 9-10 units a city is a lot for Cuirs. Of course if you get an early DOW and you could be in trouble.

 

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The Age of Cavalry & Rifles begins (1180 AD)

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lots of action, Hammi and Charly are trading cities

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Culture pressure gets serious east too..are you sure you want to make native america angry HC?

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More checking for possible gold trades, sometimes you can find techs to sell it's playing an important part

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Here we can give him Edu for 170g, he's only 200-300 beakers away.
Looking at the demo, AIs are now teching a bit better for sure. 3rd in soldiers, Hammi falling behind and Charly would easily win his war without Willy distracting him (the new cities in former Sury land are easy captures for him)

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i start building a bank in Cahokia, almost forgot we are in a golden age lol..our economy will not look good when that's over. I would not bother with banks in normal cities, but cottaged Bur Cap i think it's good

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Nooooo stupid barbs, and not enuf overflow for Trireme in 1t -.-

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Rifling, whew..no more gold left, and i wish the bank would already be completed

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Besides whipping Cavs almost everywhere, i also pick 2 cities close to Charly and without stables for Riflemen. Good for guarding captured cities. Cannot afford to upgrade many Cuirs yet, and will wait one more turn after this one for some Cavs joining the stacks.

Willy started beelining Rifling too, interesting

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While we cannot see that with espio points, he would not give those 2 cheaper techs for RP and i actually wonder how he also got economics so quickly. It's almost tempting to target him first, but HC and Charly made me too angry with their culture & AP mafia ~~
Okay, and ways would be longer. If Willy gets Rifles, that will keep the game interesting.

 

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Ragnarök (stolen from kcdswede 1210AD)

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After long and peaceful building, the time has come..too much green was still in this diplo screen

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Being brought into fighting position, some soldiers are nervous..Sitting Bull rides at top, shouting "long enuf has the AP mafia terrorized our peoples. It's time to join our brothers and sisters of Babylon and Amsterdam in this war.

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No breakthru can be gained in the east yet, HC reinforces his city with plenty Cats..not dangerous, but enuf to hold out in numbers.
But Nuremberg falls as expected, not much time to celebrate as our vision Rider shouts: look, an army is coming!
Being encouraged by having a Rifleman close, we decide to not raze and..

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Too much, we wait outside. Let our Rifle move in, maybe he can kill some attackers.
Another Rifle joins the (now big) stack outside, glad i have those guys already.
All Cuirs are getting promoted too.

Wonsan goes well, only 1 Cav dies

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Rifle cannot reach the city, oh well. Some gold used to upgrade Cuirs.
We sacrifice a worker for scouting, and find Willy trying his luck at Luxemburg..will that be enuf?

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First in soldiers now ~~

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An unexpected vassal

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okay let's continue, in between turns HC throws all his Cats on my stack east (log).
And Charly moves his stack in front of my city, but does not attack..

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Normally i would accept some losses now (still loads of Landsknechts) and wipe that out. But i intend to take this more serious, most of my Cavs are injured or would have to attack across the river (from Wonsan). And Cuirs are not clear winners.
He has only 3 injured Trebs (that i can see) so i can instead have 2 Rifles inside (against Landsknechts, hopefully) if he attacks and wait for a better chance

But i can raze Strasbourg, an annoying hill city that's currently weakly defended. I think those are the chances that i should take

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If you wonder, C2 Cav against cg3 longbow in hill city gets 54% win + retreat chance..they are really good.
No losses, good on rng so far. I use my visi Cuir for the last defender, he can see Prague averagely defended

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Yup those are 3 lonely Trebs there..not like k-mod stops the AI from doing those moves. He might use them against Nuremberg thou, a decent plan but bad execution (i have to kill them ofc). He will have to try his luck against those defenders if he wants to attack, 2 Rifles protect Wonsan

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At HC my guys are mostly wounded (6 cats or so), 4 Cuirs against 4 defenders..not liking those chances, i have 3 Cavs as reinforcements and will wait one turn. Useful super medic to heal meanwhile.

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Next turn, Charly does not attack (superior odds like protective Rifles really keep the k-mod AI away would be my feeling ~~
But i get the best surprise that could have ever happened oO

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Sitting Bull's speech about friends in Babylon must have impressed We sooo accept ofc.
But that's not all, HC has enuf of Charly..

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Hmm what to do best with that, capping him as well would safe lots of time too.
Meanwhile Charly moved his stack towards Seoul, i am not fully healed yet but i think it's time to get rid of that. No river in the way now.

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Holy Rome's soldiers try their best, and even get a couple wins and retreats, but in the end historians might remember this as Massacre of Seoul.

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where once was an army, are now rice farmers
In the east it's a bloody battle for Ollantablabla, 4 native A. riders lost their lives. But the peoples of Scythian celebrate on the streets, their cultural freedom.

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Truly an eventful turn ~~

 

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10 uploads limit, here's the save where i stopped for a break.
Suggestions, ideas, comments or chocolate are always welcome

 

[dutchfire]

Looks like you've got it mostly under control. Capitulation dynamics are not my forte, is it better to cap Huayna first, then Charlemagne (since Huayna is now on your side), or will Huayna not cap as long as you're fighting the strong Charly?

Are you telling Hammurabi to attack specific cities?

 

[Berks]

Nice writeups! Looks like you have a winning position here

 

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@dutchfire sometimes they cap while still fighting both, but it's certainly raising the requirements.
Making peace or ceasefire with Charly to cap HC usually makes sense in this position, yup. Especially with Willy being at war with him too, he might cap HC first if i take too long.
It's just that you also lose all war success against Charly, and i did plenty damage by destroying his stack.

No orders for Hammi yet, did not finish this turn yet and he just vassaled

Berks, thanks
Should be won yep.

 

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Capitulation of the Incas

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After some busy days i continue here, decided that i keep both wars going for now until i take Machu Picchu from HC and see if he caps This pics shows unit moving plans

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Not giving Hammi Rifling yet, but i usually equip vassals when no trading is possible anymore. Here that probably means when fighting Willy as last one.

Next turn HC plan starts, at Charly i see Vienne with plenty annoying units inside..will take Bosippa instead while healing also finishes, and tell Hammi to attack Vienne maybe he can soften that a bit meanwhile

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I have to say, k-mod AIs build better unit types..would we ever see such an army of longbows for defending in normal games? Nopes

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As result i am unable taking the city this turn, would not have expected that

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West we celebrate the liberation of Borsippa & Navajo, with the later one captured by Hammi's units.

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I then decide sending a bigger stack towards HC, with my eyes on that capitulation first.

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Umm..no, we would rather be unhappy (remember the AP mafia?)

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Next turn Machu Picchu is much weaker, and we have some reinforcements coming..yup those Cats, AIs will never stop doing that

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..and we can take the city, typical HC one you might say with wonders

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And while still at war with Charly, he will capitulate ~~
A nice surprise.

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Those are some stacks.

 

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Charly joins us

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Charly is more stubborn, and Vienne still heavily defended..hmm, let's flank his 2 best cities Aachen & Prague, hit where it hurts

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Both cities have about equal defenders, massive forces gather against them..

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And so the most bloody battle for native america so far begins, 7 Cavs & Cuirs die before Aachen falls

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..but that's enuf for Charly now, he's ours

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Gifting all pre-techs to my 3 vassals now (then Rifling & MT), and next turn declaring on Willy - army ready or not, so they can get moving ~~
He's not teching Rifling yet, preferred Chemisty

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