Mathalamus
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and people in college, extremely busy with homework go along with national November writing month....why?
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and people in college, extremely busy with homework go along with national November writing month....why?
christos200
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So you can ask.
KaiserElectric
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Pretty much this. Don't worry, I can confirm we aren't dead yet. I'm working on getting up the midway update soon and I'll be providing the full update once the semester is over.
christos200
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Do not worry Kaiser. Take your time.
Terran Empress
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Medical Supplies and construction material has never been outlawed, however the direct support of a single party in the war is both unsurprising and saddening.
There are wounded and dying on both sides of the war, yet you only support those of your allies. That isn't humanitarian, that is favoritism.
Shame on you Vancore, shame.
There are wounded and dying on both sides of the war, yet you only support those of your allies. That isn't humanitarian, that is favoritism.
Shame on you Vancore, shame.
SamSniped
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In turn, the Republic of Texas offers humanitarian aid to those wounded on both sides of the war, and will aid setting up refugee camps if so desired by either party, especially the Romans.
SouthernKing
crickety cricket
These Vancore ships will never reach Yugoslav ports so long as the Italian navy has its say. This, you can be sure of. We have no issue with humanitarian aid, and in fact welcome it from a state like Texas - we will be sure to protect Texan aid efforts - but in the case of Vancore this "civil aid" is a blatant and poorly veiled effort to provide material support to a rogue state.
We would say we thought better of you Vancore, but we really didn't.
We would say we thought better of you Vancore, but we really didn't.
Mathalamus
Emperor of Mathalia
the Roman Emperor is unsurprised about the Gethic nation offering humanitarian supplies to Yugoslavia. in fact, he insults Vancore for taking this long to to set it up.
anyway, the Roman Empire is of the opinion to allow some Humanitarian supplies to Yugoslavia --we aren't monsters you know-- but some supplies should go to the Roman Empire and Italy. one third each, maybe?
Texas is welcome to send humanitarian supplies, even to Yugoslavia. and they are welcome to help us set up Refugee camps in Anatolia.
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We offer civilian aid to Yugoslavia and we are met with condemnation, while Italy continues to pillage Yugoslavian land?! Our civilian aid includes medical supplies and construction material. Blocking a Gethic vessel or threatening to fire on it will be remarked as a act of aggression. We have not officially joined the war on either side. If Italy wants to prove itself not a defender then it has to hinder our civilian effort. If Italy wants to prove itself not a pirate then it will allow our cargo ships through.
Mathalamus
Emperor of Mathalia
the Roman Empire would like to remind Italy that if it does declare war on the Gethic hand, the Roman Empire will be disappointed that you expanded the conflict against our wishes. i mean, aren't both of us in enough trouble with just *one* superpower?
but... we will support either decision. war or peace. up to you. the Empire will follow.
but... we will support either decision. war or peace. up to you. the Empire will follow.
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"Rome" has made a wise notion: by being aggressive to Gethic civilian vessels Italy would bring us into the conflict directly and I sure to remind the world that Vancore, though a man of mercy, is capable of bringing justice most biblical.
However we will ensure Italy that our merchants will have civil security on board the ship, so they will find no lethal arms on board as Gethic law dictates that what belongs to the military should be protected with great care. We are bringing supplies to help repair damage to civilian factories that Italy bombed, as well as housing crushed in the conflict. We have no desire to have the whole shipping scenario to become a tool of bringing us into direct conflict but rather as a means to aid our allies the Yugoslavians, just as Italy aids its ally Constantinople by bombing civilian work places.
However we will ensure Italy that our merchants will have civil security on board the ship, so they will find no lethal arms on board as Gethic law dictates that what belongs to the military should be protected with great care. We are bringing supplies to help repair damage to civilian factories that Italy bombed, as well as housing crushed in the conflict. We have no desire to have the whole shipping scenario to become a tool of bringing us into direct conflict but rather as a means to aid our allies the Yugoslavians, just as Italy aids its ally Constantinople by bombing civilian work places.
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Although we cannot condone the escalation of this war by either side, as a neutral party we do understand why Italy would take this as a hostile act. If Italy were to send civilian material aid to Wyoming, knowing full well that aid would assist the Wyoming Rebellion then we would understand why you would take this as a hostile action. We would advise that the Gethic Hand send civilian aid to Rome as well to avoid a conflict.
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Fine... the cargo ship carry a medical team for Turkish civilians and reconstruction material for damage structures in Turkey along with the material needed for the Yugoslavians. We will entrust private entities within the Hand to take duties with this humanitarian operation. Know though however that we will have priority to aid our Yugoslavian comrades.
Mathalamus
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the Roman Empire thanks the Gethic hand for preferring peace. im sure it was a purely selfish action.
the Gethic vessel will deliver the supplies at Mersin. its a completely turkish region, so you can refer to them as turkey as much as you want.
the Gethic vessel will deliver the supplies at Mersin. its a completely turkish region, so you can refer to them as turkey as much as you want.
Thorvald of Lym
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We talkin' Old or New Testament?
But dammit, you're trying..!
Humanitarian aid isn't distributed according to faction, it's distributed according to need.
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I take Mersin for the Turkish supplies? Very well; the vessel meant for Turkey will set for that port.
Both by dictation of the Revelations!
I am sure with all the Italian bombing and raiding Yugoslavia has need.
Mathalamus
Emperor of Mathalia
he isnt wrong. besides Thrace, all of Rome is basically perfectly intact. so there isn't *that* much of a need for humanitarian supplies. once the enemy gets in Anatolia though, we are in trouble.
(and, mersin was selected cause it was far away from the fighting.)
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Foreign Policy of the '20s
Foreign Policy of the '20s
THE BALKANS IN 2022
What can be said about the Balkan War which has attracted so much of the world's attention is this: It has to end. I feel that this is something people in the media often forget. The media likes to draw comparisons, and an oft-repeated example is the Iran-Iraq War which lasted eight years. The trenches and poison gas attacks of that war brought home that the tactics that led to such massive loss of life in Europe from 1914 to 1918 including human waves weren't confined to that war. However, looking at that war is leading people to make the wrong conclusions.
Without increased outside assistance, the Miracle of Constantinople can't last. In 1453, the Theodosian Walls, while old and dated, were still notable and still grand. However, Ottoman cannons and Byzantine military, economic, and political weakness show ended the second incarnation of the Roman Empire that year, achieving what Islam had been trying to do in several centuries in only two months.
It is a question of how much force Rome can continue to muster in the face of a besieged de facto capital. In 1914, the government of France fled Paris to safer environments, but had the German right wing struck at Paris and seized the city, what would be of the French soldier's will to fight? Soldier morale is a fickle thing, and while nationalism is a great motivator, as is fighting a foreign invader with an odious ideology, the politics of the Roman state are likely having a dampening effect on morale. With the Mediterranean clearly not in one side's pocket as of yet, can anybody look at the forces involved in the war and draw a picture of an end game that doesn't end with the Roman Empire losing its cultural center and claims of legitimacy?
True, the Bosnian Uprising is a matter of some concern, but the Allies should be careful in greeting Bosnia as a makeshift ally. Despite what the Romans and Italians may want, Yugoslavia is a stabilizing factor in Balkan politics, and the collapse of Yugoslavia will surely end, and begin, in bloodshed. Unlike 1990s, there is no superpower in the wings waiting to deliver ample firepower to shift the tide in one side's favor. The belligerents in the Balkan War, after the war is finished, and assuming Yugoslavia collapses, would be too drained materially to reliably control the situation in the Balkans. This could prove an opening for the Germans to direct the narrative in the Balkans.
I won't discuss the Kalmar or Mexican roles in the war, since it is in this reader's opinion that those elements are relatively minor in the grand scheme of things. I do not believe Mexico will prove decisive in the war. Simple geography sometimes is the answer to complex questions, and until somebody can show more a successor state in the Americas capable of massive force projection capability, I will maintain my stance that none of them actually have the resources to pull off reliable force projection.
It is difficult, however, to continue with 1914 comparisons however. After all, Yugoslavia is not Germany in this situation. While both countries share a supremacy on land, the Germans were afforded incredible early victories leading to the occupation of large swathes of France, occupation of Belgium, and a devastating victory against the Russians to the east. Yugoslavia has earned victories, but no battle has proven decisive. The decisive battles that determined the next four years of the First World War were fought in the first month. Can the same be said here? Given the lack of true progress after several months of warfare, I believe some conclusions can be drawn about the long-term prospects of the war.
The Siege of Constantinople can't last much longer. Either the Yugoslavians are repulsed, or the city will fall. I do not believe the city can reliably be held as the Yugoslavians are afforded more resources and manpower than the Roman State and is afforded favorable positions to the west to hold back the relatively weak Italian forces. The fact, however, that Constantinople hasn't been taken yet says something about Yugoslavia's relative military power. Rome is weak, but the gulf between Roman military power and Yugoslavian military power apparently is not as wide as some would like to believe.
I will say this about the Roman claims of the number of forces they are raising in Anatolia. They are, without a doubt, false. The Romans, by no means, achieve the naval power to ferry the supposed twenty armies they are raising. For the record, there were less than ten armies on the Western Front during WW1, and that number of soldiers is what led to the trench warfare and devastation as the size of armies made movement difficult, leading to the Investment of Belgium.
I am looking at the map and wonder where Rome will keep twenty armies in Europe. You clearly can't fit twenty armies in Constantinople. These are just numbers thrown out for public digestion, but the rapid expansion of an army in just a few months doesn't happen without growing pains, wartime labor shortages, and without intensifying the problems most wartime economies face. The Roman Emperor, likewise, was publicly admitted to a hospital. The declining health of a wartime leader usually isn't something a country on the losing side of a war should bring up.
Unfortunately, Yugoslavia may have managed to snag defeat from the jaws of victory. The purges this late in the war will, no doubt, result in an immediate weakening of the officer corps, morale on the front, and increased political unrest. Whereas Stalin would have refrained from purging the army while Stalingrad raged, the Yugoslavian leadership has found it prudent to do so during stalemates on two fronts and an Islamic uprising. These are acts of a desperate government, and are not shows of strength to anyone.
THE GETHIC FUTURE
The Gethic Hand, despite short-term successes, will fail in its ultimate goal of being a relevant and reliable partner in peace in the world. The Gethic Hand, irresponsibly, is using chemical weapons against rebels operating among a civilian population. Nobody who reads that sentence should walk away thinking the Gethic Hand to have a firm grasp on the situation. The Gethic Hand, if it wants to win its war, needs to win hearts and mind, but the Lander Massacre has undone everything to achieve that, and the worst part is that it was unavoidable. Somebody was bound to make a mistake at some point.
The Gethic Hand will expend a vast amount of manpower and material to bring the war to a close, and who is benefiting isn't entirely clear. The Gethic Hand's foreign policy can be summed up as followed.
"Many means, many goals, no standards of success."
The Gethic Hand is a regional power that desperately wishes it was a superpower. It believes, in its heart, it can affect the outcome of the Balkan War materially. It believes, truly, that it can affect the outcome in such a way to benefit itself. The Lander Massacre has destroyed all credibility the country has in its "humanitarian" outreaches to the Balkans (read: the Yugoslavian Military).
PERSIA'S PROMISE
When you introduce a foreign lifeform into an environment it didn't exist it before, strange things happen. Bad things. Ask Australians about their rabbit problem, for example. In politics, ask about the Mongolians, the Huns, and the Germans. With a generation of two, these entities went from mere promise to regional, continental, and globe-shaking empires. Some would say that Persia, with a weakening Rome to the west, may be able to achieve what Persian rulers wished for since the third century: To defeat Rome.
But Persia, like Iran throughout most of its history, has a problem of numbers. Persia borders eight countries, and a good number of them are significant regional powers. Persia and its neighbors, and the political power moves being played out in the Middle East, reflect an image of what a post-Yugoslavia Balkans could look like. Instead of a hegemony, there could be many states. The balance of power can become self-sustaining, maybe.
But luck is fickled. Sometimes the dice rolls in somebody's favor one too many times, and the result of that one roll start to snowball. Today's minor power can be tomorrow's regional power broker and next week's superpower.
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