LGBT rampage
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Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
The only way that distinguishes Labour from the Lib Dems is that the former have their own side, but the latter have to share with the Tories.
Oruc
Reactionary
The only way that distinguishes Labour from the Lib Dems is that the former have their own side, but the latter have to share with the Tories.
No they were distinguished by their support for proportional representation, only reason I voted for them, the other big things they seemed to support like no tuition fees I didn't like at all. But they screwed up the reason I voted for them.
classical_hero
In whom I trust
Well then by that definition you will put the Government of Australia as a hate group since some of it's behaviour in the past
Jesus said this about the Bible, Thy word is truth. So you are saying Jesus is wrong in what he said? How are you a Christian when you don't follow Christ?
I never knew that people's colour of their skin was the same as their sexual orientation.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2158442/Cameron-CANNOT-protect-Church-gay-marriage-laws-says-Justice-minister.html
You were saying? Once Gay marriage is put into law it will mean that Churches will have to perform them. Once the law recognises Gay marriage it will make it inevitable. There are plenty of examples in America where shops can't stop giving a service, such as a wedding cake store, to provide for Gay marriages, so we know it won't stop there.
If this was the other way around say, a Conservative Christian going after a Gay group, this would automatically be classified as a hate crime.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
They don't have analogies in Australia?
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
What makes you so sure?
The same reason(s) that makes you sure you have the bible interpreted correctly.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
I'd be surprised if you did as much research as I do in trying to ascertain that.
And even then, I continually try to learn more about it. Thats a lifelong endeavor; not something you ever really stop doing...
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
Did you ever think about using the same sources that most Christians use? It isn't a matter of how much time you spend rereading the same scriptures over and over again.
Old Hippy
Deity
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well they are paying millions in compensation for their(our?) past actions... but i would not go so far as to call them a hate group like .... but i would draw attention to bad practices .... like i did with the catholic church...
there is a big fuss made about this ... equal rights, equall pay. no discrimination against women ... no discrimination for sexual orientation
if a wedding cake maker dose not want to make a cake with the words gay marriage on it...fine, thats artistic expression, people will go elsewhere... if a store will not sell a cake to gay people,women, black people, Jews, divorced people, disabled people .... well that is an entirely different matter
if churches don't want to be a "player" in society then get of of being business men in the guise of church charity... it will in no way affect what your or any church does ... as can be seen from the continued refusal of most churches to marry divorced hetro sexual couples ... pointing out that they can get a civil marriage... if the full power of womens lib and the acceptance of divorce and re- marriage have had no effect on the rights of churches ... its a furphy to suggest that gay people will
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
And thats precisely what I dont do. I've often mentioned of using various concordances to study the actual root meaning of words used in scripture; and certainly dont depend on any one specific translation, although I do prefer the New King James as a base.
But I also try to go even further by studying the history of the cultures as well as the root words used in the Greek and Hebrew. That helps as well.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
I can see why Christians would be against a law that denies every church and every cleric the choice not to want to host a gay marriage.
You were reading?
In fact, I'd be rather cross as a Christian if anyone would imply that government recognition influences my religious take on the matter. They are separate.
You were ignoring?
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
You should try taking some college-level science classes, especially geology and biology, as well as a comparative religion class which explores the similar mythological roots of all Western religions. In particular, you should study how Catholicism has radically changed from the days of Galileo to present, and how much science in particular has modified their dogma.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
I have, especially the biology (was pre-med remember). My faith includes a God that could create beings to evolve. I mean why not?
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
How do you view creation? (will not ask for proof or the science behind it, be as subjective and have a guess as you like)
God creates a Universe 13.7 bil years ago. Does he create Earth or does he guide matter and energy to make Earth appear? It would be impressive if he set things in motion at atomic level 13.7 billion years ago to make all this happen.
Does man get created separately, or does life in general? That sort of thing.
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
How much did you complete, and how much of it do you actually use in your attempts to understand your own religion?
You have to ignore much of biology, or any other hard science for that matter as Ziggy just pointed out, in order to rationalize any sort of evangelical interpretation of the Bible, much less a fundamentalist one.
