LINESII- Into the Darkness- Part II

[Cuivienen]

Ardan, as the nobles have "fled from Ardan", is a city located in Davar. As having just been occupied (and a large number of people fled from it to the other regions of the Union), I assume you were speaking of the city- and not a couple of nobles who have appearntly fled the entire country to what- Kalmar? ("Her feet took her closer and closer to the border with Veritas.", and I assume she can't walk on water.)

She is in what is left of Ardan, on Kelios's continent.

Sure there are some wealthy people, but the wealth is cemented in the hands of a very small minority when you speak of Ardan. Remember, Ardan is a limited autocracy- even under loose terms, barely 3% of the pop can be called "nobles". And these "nobles"- having wealth, if at all, would more than likey be Pirian and strictly Davian. What use would they have with a pagan girl with a funny accent? Davians are not known for their generoisty, after all.

Even the very wealthy are sometimes generous, if they can be convinced of tales. War tends to make the survivors more kindly. In any case, I don't think you can speak for every single person in your nation.

I'm merely trying to prevent all the barbs aimed at my people.

There are no barbs being aimed at your people. This is just some old and crazy woman ranting.

And, lastly, I'd like to point out that any Davian can be convinced that Kelios has an empress- very little is known about the world south of Tir, as Ardan's focus has been (greatly) drawn to her west for the last couple centuries.

Yet there has been trade between the nations further east and Ardan for decades as well, so at least some Ardan (that sounds stupid) ... Ardanese should be aware of foreign situations. In any case, the woman is old and crazy. She could right or she could be wrong. You're reading too much into things and taking too much offense.

Who says poor has to be a monetary value?

What else? Are your nobility spiritually poor?

 

[foolish icarus]

But, Swiss, you forgot a few.

Spoiler :

How about the view that the entire universe is a simply a brute fact? The one that holds that it makes much more logical sense for the entirety of existence just happened to pop out of nonexistence than for there to be something that created that universe.

Then there's the one that holds that all scientific principles are infallible, when in fact any scientist worth his salt knows that all of science rests on first principles that are necessarily unprovable. Oh, and, as a corollary, that scientific principles hold in all cases... except one - that the universe required a cause.

Finally, there's the one where people actually believe that they can know for a fact that there exists no transcendent being! I know, its nuts, but people actually believe that they have the kind of knowledge necessary to know such a thing, essentially, transcendent knowledge of everything - knowledge only one being could even be thought to have.

Its a crazy, crazy world and silly people will accept all kinds of cracked ideas. Unexamined beliefs are hard to hold, but some people are just happy to rest in the knowledge they must be right. Make no mistake, theists and atheists alike commit the same Socratic sin, but when the dark forces of ignorance gather, the forces of reason must rally Glad to see we're on the same side.

Make no attempt to place me, I claim Resident Gadfly status

When we reach the era of enlightenment our nations' scholars are going to be at each other's throats

 

[~Darkening~]

She is in what is left of Ardan, on Kelios's continent.

Arcadia.

Even the very wealthy are sometimes generous, if they can be convinced of tales. War tends to make the survivors more kindly. In any case, I don't think you can speak for every single person in your nation.

Good thing I'm going for generalities, then?

There are no barbs being aimed at your people. This is just some old and crazy woman ranting.

I thought she was young?

Yet there has been trade between the nations further east and Ardan for decades as well, so at least some Ardan (that sounds stupid) ... Ardanese should be aware of foreign situations. In any case, the woman is old and crazy. She could right or she could be wrong. You're reading too much into things and taking too much offense.

Around two hundred years, to be specific (around the time of Arcaida's founding.) And no, Ardanese is like Davarian- incorrect. People from France are French, people from England are English, and people from Ardan are Ardan. Ardanese is such an ugly word.

Btw, have you met me? Seriously, go have a chat with alex or Moose .

 

[Swissempire]

Prophecy​

Evern IV was tossing and turning in bed, having a nightmare. There were millions of Bladiests just killing each other. And then the Blademaster came down and was talking to himself about how to turn off something called the "Dream Enterer and Disguise Kit". Suddenly, the Blademaster turned into a little person dressed in green and the battlefield turned into a white room

"Who are you" asked Evern, utterly confused

The little green-clothed person just handed Evern a note, and then Vanished.

Evern woke up in a sweat with a note in his hand. He opened the note...it was on some wierd kind of paper he'd never seen before. He looked down and began to read it

Dear Evern IV,

You're f*cked.

Sincerely,
Swissempire, Leader of the Leperchauns

P.S. Good job on the Evil Killings and mass genocide though. Touche​

 

[North King]

Around two hundred years, to be specific (around the time of Arcaida's founding.) And no, Ardanese is like Davarian- incorrect. People from France are French, people from England are English, and people from Ardan are Ardan. Ardanese is such an ugly word.

Look at your own examples. People aren't usually called by the name of their nation. Perhaps instead of "Ardan", Ardanii? Ardent? Ardic? Ardian? Ardii? Ardish? Ardanner? Ard? Ardannian? Arduguese? Aardvarks?

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Aardvark forces are attacking sir! They want our insects!

 

[Jono]

[wiki=Demonym]Here[/wiki]'s something to help. Sure, you could go for Ardan and say it's Ard with -an as a suffix.

 

[~Darkening~]

Look at your own examples. People aren't usually called by the name of their nation. Perhaps instead of "Ardan", Ardanii? Ardent? Ardic? Ardian? Ardii? Ardish? Ardanner? Ard? Ardannian? Arduguese? Aardvarks?

*sigh*

Attack the Hippie day here already? My point was that you can not make and generalization on the adjective for people. You simply can't add "ese" or "ian" to the end of every bloody word and be satisfied. "Ardanese" is such an ugly word, and I don't realloy see what the whole deal about "Ardan" is. "Three million Ardan soldiers attack Merhai". See? It works fine.

EDIT: I am perfectly happy with my adjective.

 

[Kal'thzar]

translation issues between languages used in Khemri force me to use Ardanese

Apologies.

 

[Oruc]

At least Ardan makes sense, I've never understand how you get Dutch from Holland or Netherlands

 

[North King]

Attack the Hippie day here already? My point was that you can not make and generalization on the adjective for people. You simply can't add "ese" or "ian" to the end of every bloody word and be satisfied. "Ardanese" is such an ugly word, and I don't realloy see what the whole deal about "Ardan" is. "Three million Ardan soldiers attack Merhai". See? It works fine.

No, it doesn't. If you wanted to do that, then you'd have to go Union of the Ardan or some such thing. For example, Merhai is the name of the people, because the nation is the Republic of the Merhai. Yours is just the Union of Ardan, implying Ardan is a place, therefore the people should be different. And "Ardan soldiers" sounds wrong.

 

[Oruc]

No, it doesn't. If you wanted to do that, then you'd have to go Union of the Ardan or some such thing. For example, Merhai is the name of the people, because the nation is the Republic of the Merhai. Yours is just the Union of Ardan, implying Ardan is a place, therefore the people should be different. And "Ardan soldiers" sounds wrong.

Stop telling him how to call his own people. Davar and Arcadia are the places Ardan is just the name of the union.

 

[~Darkening~]

*sigh*

Are we really having this arguement?

In order to get the whole "Ardan" issue, you have to know where it comes from. Yes, Ardan is a place- its the capital. Yes, its also included in the name of the nation- The Union of Ardan (referring to the city). However, you have to understand the underlying fact of Ardan- its a religious center, mixed with other forms to make the city. You don't declare something is Romanese do you? Jerusalemian? Meccite? They all have their own names- names missing the standard endings.

Remember, we're talking english here- not everything has to be perfect in this tongue. Rather than all the obvious choices, the most annoying one was chosen.

Btw, "Ardani" is used to reffer to the inhabitants of the city of Ardan, with Ardan referring to the collective whole. *sigh* If it'll get you people to leave me alone, I'll change it to Ardani (for the whole), and Ardanic to the city.

There- happy? I now have to change my name to The Ardanic Union.

 

[LightFang]

No, actually, I think NK makes sense.

I mean, the United States of America, right? You can substitute "Union" for "United States" to get the "Union of America".

But we don't run around calling ourselves America. >:|

I mean, even Canadian makes more sense, because at least the name changes! (although I think we should all start calling Canada Canadian )

 

[North King]

Are we really having this arguement?

Yes. Names don't make sense unless they sound right. If they don't, they quickly become disused.

In order to get the whole "Ardan" issue, you have to know where it comes from. Yes, Ardan is a place- its the capital. Yes, its also included in the name of the nation- The Union of Ardan (referring to the city). However, you have to understand the underlying fact of Ardan- its a religious center, mixed with other forms to make the city. You don't declare something is Romanese do you? Jerusalemian? Meccite? They all have their own names- names missing the standard endings.

You don't call it Rome, or Jerusalem. That's a Mecca sentence, there. If Ardan is the city, then you would add something onto Ardan.

 

[~Darkening~]

You don't call it Rome, or Jerusalem. That's a Mecca sentence, there. If Ardan is the city, then you would add something onto Ardan.

But you don't throw the boring old endings on either.

EDIT: And why aren't you on AIM NK? I have news that I need to bash into your head if you'll be playing Merhai again

translation issues between languages used in Khemri force me to use Ardanese

Apologies.

*sigh*

Due to the horrendous efforts of translating, your nation will simply be reffered to as the United KKK in Ardan from now on. Sorry.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

@emu

I can clear up the Dutch/Netherlands/Holland thing.

Link.

 

[Kal'thzar]

*sigh*

Due to the horrendous efforts of translating, your nation will simply be reffered to as the United KKK in Ardan from now on. Sorry.

hey I don't care what you call MY nation. just don't see the problem with other people calling you different things

Translations sometimes substitute the original names anyway see Istanbull.

 

[Swissempire]

I have to side with Darkening on this one. My people are the Swade, who's capital city is Swade and who live in the Swade Ascendancy. I would hate to be called Swadish or Swadrian or Swadine or something like that.

That said, Ardanese is not an ugly word, though Ardanite is cool as well.

 

[LittleBoots]

Swade Ascendancy is like "Roman Empire" and your people have always been caleld the "Swade." The Capital name is a little weirder, but I think yours is somewhat different.

Also, if we ever find out you exist, we shall be calling you Artanoi because no one will care what we call you.