You could just sue wikipedia or something. Or send money to pm NutandYahoo to support his sane actions and history claims
Litvinenko 'probably murdered on personal orders of Putin
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You could just sue wikipedia or something. Or send money to pm NutandYahoo to support his sane actions and history claims
To say this you don't require any proof at all. Nobody can prevent you from saying there is strong probability that Saddam possess WMDs and that you have evidences which you won't disclose.
Evie
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Just as nobody can prevent you from saying that Putin is a nice little lamb who would never do anyone any harm.
Not that any body with a single shred of reason (and enough dignity not to take Putin's money to troll the internets) would actually *believe* you, but hey.
Not that any body with a single shred of reason (and enough dignity not to take Putin's money to troll the internets) would actually *believe* you, but hey.
Do you honestly think any gov would pay people to support them in CFC?...
It would make sense in actually huge sites, such as YT, FB and Twitter, but not a forum like this one.
Snorrius
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THIS FORUM IS UNDER SURVEILLANCE OF RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE SERVICES AND HAVE TO BE TAXED FOR THE PRIVILEGE.
Right, the difference between us is that I'm not saying Putin is innocent. What I'm saying is that I don't trust British conclusions and "evidences" on that matter.
And I'm also not trying to insult my opponents by making allusive suggestions that they are paid trolls.
Evie
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Kyriakos Nah, that part was more of an afterthought - an alternate explanation for why someone would buy Elk's post. Even if they did, I'd imagine they'd be visiting here on their free time, not actually being paid to troll us. I don't think Putin is wasting money on CFC.
Nah, in this case it appears more like a case of hypernationalism run wild, where anything anyone outside The Nation says is dismissed as evil foreigner lies and conspiracies to bring down The Nation. A sad mentality in any country.
Nah, in this case it appears more like a case of hypernationalism run wild, where anything anyone outside The Nation says is dismissed as evil foreigner lies and conspiracies to bring down The Nation. A sad mentality in any country.
A textbook example of someone's opinion being changed on the internet!
If you chose to believe the head of my state is an insane maniac, it's your right. My right is not to take this assertion for granted. I understand that my position may hurt somebody's feelings, but it is what it is.
Wikipedia has it correct. Or perhaps you were referring to the Greek language Wikipedia, which would make a certain amount of sense.
Or send money to pm NutandYahoo to support his sane actions and history claims
Saying "the Prime Minister of your country is crrrazzzyy" isn't a valid response when someone points out that you are wrong.
Also: http://www.timesofisrael.com/protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion-read-aloud-in-greek-parliament/
^That article is about antisemitism, Mouthwash. Semitic group is not a term tied to 'antisemitism' as the latter is (wrong etymology included) meant to just refer to 'anti-jewish-ism'. None of that changes the fact that arabs are categorised (not just by the super-important wiki) as a semitic group, which makes utter sense given the term 'antisemitism' itself is based on deliberate falsification of what it was (like your own linked post by 2014's Park showed).
So what don't you get in all that, again? Arguing when you can actually read what the other said is haram
So what don't you get in all that, again? Arguing when you can actually read what the other said is haram
You said this:
In response to this:
Well he isn't an anti-semite, no, why would you think he was?
Besides, arabs are semites too
In response to this:
Evie
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I don't think he's an insane maniac.
I think he's a former cold war spy/KGB agent (not an agency known for teaching its staff the value of human rights) turned ruthless politician (that is, ruthless even by politician standards).
That's in most respects significantly more terrifying than an insane maniac (though far better when it comes to controlling nuclear arsenals).
It can be called differently, but the accusation is that he allegedly ordered assassination in public demonstrative form which hasn't been done in Russia since Middle Ages. And in today's world, matched only by ISIS.
And people who refuse to take that accusation for granted without strong evidences, for you are apparently hypernationalists.
Evie
Pronounced like Eevee
I'm pretty sure the list of countries whose leaders are willing to have political opponents and perceived threats assassinated is WAY longer than just ISIS (or just ISIS and Russia). Actually not sure ISIS really belongs in the conversation because as far as I know, they rely on openly executions, which are NOT the same as assassinations.
And the notion that it hasn't happened "since the middle ages" boggles the mind. Of course it has - history is choke-full of political assassinations carried out by or sponsored by other countries, or attempts at the same (just look at the looooooooong list of ways the CIA tried and failed to get Castro).
It's not merely political assassinations I'm talking about - a few ones in last decade (Hattab, Yandarbiev, Basaev) were likey done by FSB operatives. It's about assassination carried out in the form of slow public execution. And for no apparent reason, except revenge for saying bad words about the FSB.
Borachio
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You know, I don't believe that the UK authorities wanted to come out officially pointing the finger at Putin (on the balance of probabilities - or whatever the jargon is).
It's an embarrassment to them, I think. Because there's absolutely nothing that they can do about it, and so the accusation just serves to highlight their own impotence.
But, having dutifully followed their judicial procedures, this was the unfortunate result.
It's an embarrassment to them, I think. Because there's absolutely nothing that they can do about it, and so the accusation just serves to highlight their own impotence.
But, having dutifully followed their judicial procedures, this was the unfortunate result.
Evie
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So wait, your objection is not that Putin wouldn't order people killed, but that he wouldn't order people killed via slow poisoning?
Seems a really strange objection to me, but hey, if that floats your boat.
Seems a really strange objection to me, but hey, if that floats your boat.
FriendlyFire
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Yes all assassinated for no apparent reason
Can Russia show me a list of Pro-Putin assassinations ?
No, my objection, in general, is that there is no reason to trust British government (which, by the way, has habit of granting asylum to criminals wanted in Russia), when it points finger to Putin at every case of murder linked to those criminals.
I'm sure that if Berezovsky's death wasn't due to natural reasons, some people here automatically assumed that it was Putin's plot as well - because he is evil.
