Actually the most interesting part of this thread for me. The following for some of these players is fascinating to me. Granted I have never really understood how popular streaming games has gotten, for Civ it makes absolutely zero sense to me on how it would be enjoyable. I get watching it from a demo perspective, but seeing this as a consistent, or at least semi-consistent thing is so odd. I feel like it would be watching others solve a crossword puzzle. It is slow moving and I would get incredibly frustrated at having no input.
Actually the most interesting part of this thread for me. The following for some of these players is fascinating to me. Granted I have never really understood how popular streaming games has gotten, for Civ it makes absolutely zero sense to me on how it would be enjoyable. I get watching it from a demo perspective, but seeing this as a consistent, or at least semi-consistent thing is so odd. I feel like it would be watching others solve a crossword puzzle. It is slow moving and I would get incredibly frustrated at having no input.
I remember before Civ 6 was released I enjoyed watching a couple British dudes play the preview. Sure they didn't play well, but they well funny and entertaining. They promoted their Scout and renamed it Shrek & Donkey, for instance. I like that much more that watching somebody droning on about min/maxing to perfection.
Actually the most interesting part of this thread for me. The following for some of these players is fascinating to me. Granted I have never really understood how popular streaming games has gotten, for Civ it makes absolutely zero sense to me on how it would be enjoyable. I get watching it from a demo perspective, but seeing this as a consistent, or at least semi-consistent thing is so odd. I feel like it would be watching others solve a crossword puzzle. It is slow moving and I would get incredibly frustrated at having no input.
When the player is really skilled and/or know the game mechanics better than you. I learned Civ IV from watching TheMeInTeam's masterful Let's Plays, for example, or when Starcraft 2 was big I was already too old to dream of competing, lol, so it was fun to watch the pros play it.
During livestreams, where you can directly talk to the streamer and discuss strategy and reasoning. Much more interactive than the Let's Play format.
White noise in the background while doing something else or going to sleep
When the player is really skilled and/or know the game mechanics better than you. I learned Civ IV from watching TheMeInTeam's masterful Let's Plays, for example, or when Starcraft 2 was big I was already too old to dream of competing, lol, so it was fun to watch the pros play it.
During livestreams, where you can directly talk to the streamer and discuss strategy and reasoning. Much more interactive than the Let's Play format.
White noise in the background while doing something else or going to sleep
For whoever wanted to see hungary. Marbozir finally got around to it.
edit: wow i am just 10 min in but he rushed into levying the city states with amani and has a ton of super powered swordsmen very early. it is insane. 12 swordsman with 4 movement +5 combat strength by turn 70 lol.
Yeah, upgrading for free is too much. Even nerfed to 50% discount on upgrade would still be very strong, especially given the extra bonuses to the units AND the free envoys too.
Yeah, upgrading for free is too much. Even nerfed to 50% discount on upgrade would still be very strong, especially given the extra bonuses to the units AND the free envoys too.
For whoever wanted to see hungary. Marbozir finally got around to it.
edit: wow i am just 10 min in but he rushed into levying the city states with amani and has a ton of super powered swordsmen very early. it is insane. 12 swordsman with 4 movement +5 combat strength by turn 70 lol.
I didn't even think that with Hungary's +2 envoys for levying, he can meet a CS first (1 envoy), move in amani, become suzerain, move amani to the next CS - but stay suzerain because of the plus 2. But yeah he just wiped out Sweden.
I didn't even think that with Hungary's +2 envoys for levying, he can meet a CS first (1 envoy), move in amani, become suzerain, move amani to the next CS - but stay suzerain because of the plus 2. But yeah he just wiped out Sweden.
That's true the higher level the more units they'll have early.
Yeah, I mean, in that video, he spent 160 gold to get 4 warriors (upgraded to 4 swordsmen) PLUS 2 envoys, so you don't have to worry about losing suzerainty immediately either. Or you chain Amani, and you can basically create an unstoppable invincible army. Again, by turn 60 he had like 16 swordsmen, each of whom he did not pay maintenance for, and who got +2 moves and +5 strength. And you can just repeat every era. With smarter play, he could have split the army up and captured 2 or 3 other civs in that time.
For whoever wanted to see hungary. Marbozir finally got around to it.
edit: wow i am just 10 min in but he rushed into levying the city states with amani and has a ton of super powered swordsmen very early. it is insane. 12 swordsman with 4 movement +5 combat strength by turn 70 lol.
Yeah, I mean, in that video, he spent 160 gold to get 4 warriors (upgraded to 4 swordsmen) PLUS 2 envoys, so you don't have to worry about losing suzerainty immediately either. Or you chain Amani, and you can basically create an unstoppable invincible army. Again, by turn 60 he had like 16 swordsmen, each of whom he did not pay maintenance for, and who got +2 moves and +5 strength. And you can just repeat every era. With smarter play, he could have split the army up and captured 2 or 3 other civs in that time.
What is also funny is that one of his biggest rivals is probably lil old Tamar, who would have thought she’d have a best rival but her potential control of city states would put a crimp in his style.
Even if she hasn’t had any direct buffs (and she really should), she is definitely looking a lot better in this expansion- kind of like how France improved between vanila and R&F
On higher levels especially, I think Hungary's game will vary widely whether they are the first to meet a CS or two for that free envoy. If they don't get that, it might be harder to grab suzerainship (and/or they'll need to prioritize CS quests)
On higher levels especially, I think Hungary's game will vary widely whether they are the first to meet a CS or two for that free envoy. If they don't get that, it might be harder to grab suzerainship (and/or they'll need to prioritize CS quests)
I think between meeting city-states first, easy quests like build spearman or eureka for bronze working, and amani, hungary should be able to lock down at least one early suzerainty pretty consistently
I think between meeting city-states first, easy quests like build spearman or eureka for bronze working, and amani, hungary should be able to lock down at least one early suzerainty pretty consistently
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