Looking for science fiction similar to Alpha Centauri

One of the best, imo, is Stanislaw Lem's Solaris. Novel and film.

Lem is always worth reading as his novels are not just entertaining but will also touch philosophical matters. His essays are ...interesting.. but a bit tough to read

All four pessimistic first contact novels can be recommended:

"Eden", "Solaris", "Fiasco" and "The Invincible".


Iain M. Banks has some interesting books in his culture series, but as there is always (at least as far as I got till now) a special concept behind each book, the difference between them is quite enormous. (I finished "Use of Weapons" and am now stuck halfway through "Excession")
"Consider Phlebas" and "Player of Games" would be a good start.

I did read some of Lerry Niven's Ringworld books and I guess his Known Space setting might fit your requirements quite well.

If you are a bit into trashy scifi try Perry Rhodan, but be aware that there is nearly infinite stuff available as the series runs since 1961 (ie 8 years before Apollo 11)
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BTW This pic it not (!) from me, there are currently 119 books available (well at least in German)
 
Ohhh, someone mentioned Perry Rhodan!

To give you a short overview of this german space opera: It's the world's most successful science fiction book series ever written. Even if most of you never heard of it. :)
It is also the largest literary work in human history, not counting the Yongle Encyclopedia.

A very short and concise plot summary:

US astronaut Perry Rhodan discovers a stranded, gigantic spaceship crewed by an aphatic, degenerate human-like alien (the Arkonides) crew and convinces the few active, energetic aliens to help him prevent WW3, unite earth and uplift Terra into the interstellar space age.

Perry Rhodan helps the Arkonides on their quest for immortality by solving a galactic riddle created by an ancient civilization for reasons unknown. He eventually discovers the riddler - a near godlike disembodies super-intelligence going by the name of ES and is granted immortality along with people of his choice.

The Terrans eventually make contact with the gigantic Arkonide empire which is by know ruled by an artificial intelligence created for the eventuality that the Arkonide civilization degenerates to the point of collapse. To avoid being annexed by the empire, the terrans fake the destruction of their home planet.

Centuries (or decades ... forgot the timeline) the Robot Emperor of the Arkonide empire reestablishes contact with the Terrans to help him with a problem he "can't compute" - the intrusion of a parallel universe with a wildly different time-scale, which cuts of large parts of space and time-freezes them.
After resolving the crisis, Terrans and the Empire enter an uneasy peace.

Terrans encounter several lost and unknown empires in the yet unexplore parts of the galaxy, among them the Posbis (a race of feeling robots on a mission to eradicate all "false life", the isolationist technological advanced cousins of the Arkonids (dubbed Akons) who are capable of encasing their whole star system into a near impenetrable energy field, and the war-like Blues, whose ships forgo energy shields altogether in favor of a completely impenetrable armor of unknown origin. A resulting all-out war results in the complete destruction of one of the Arkonid home planets (they have three, all of them being artificially moved to the same orbit).

Explorers of the Solar Empire (the Terran empire of Grand Administrator Perry Rhodan) lead to the discovery of the Sun Hexagon - 6 identical suns arranged into a perfect hexagon. By accident they trigger the control station of the Sun Hexagon, which turns out to be a gigantic fleet transmitter, transporting the flagship of Perry Rhodan along with him to the 2.5 million light year distant androme galaxy.
They eventually discover the rulers of the andromeda galaxy, who not just mastered the manipulation of suns into matter transmitters, but also the perfect reduplication of matter (including humans), giving them an unending supply of troops and space ships, but also the secret of time travel and immortality.
Eventually they get defeated because Terrans figured out how to destroy whole suns by turning them into supernovae (with the unfortunate side-effect of interstellar fracticide), depriving the Masters of the Isle (that's how the immortal masters of andromeda refer to themselves) of their main tactical advantage as well of their production (duplication) capabilities.

Several intergalactic conflicts (andromeda was just the start) later, Terrans finally get a glimpse of a higher conflict brewing in the universe. The super-intelligence ES that granted Perry Rhodan immortality and heralded the age of Terra in the milky way galaxy is just one of many, who are involved in a millions of years old struggle between the forces of - let's say Order and Chaos - the Kosmokrats and the Chaotarchs. Each super-intelligence derives it's power from the essence of the people of their Zones of Influence - in the case of ES the Milky Way and Andromeda. And the closer they share the moral code with 'their' super-intelligence, the better.
And while ES mostly excerted it's influence unnoticed by the intelligent people of it's Zones, other super-intelligences act quite openly.
From here on the plot opens to the kosmology of the universe and the reasons and motives behind threats and conflicts transcend the mere standard motivations of greed, power, politics or ambition.


Just to give you a glimmer of the scope the Perry Rhodan universe tackles, here some major events in that universe:

OLD MAN - A small terran ship got trapped 50.000 years in the past during the conflict against the Masters of the Isle. They stranded on a planet inhabited by a hidden science enclave of the Lemurs - the direct ancestors of Terrans, Arkonids and all the other humanoid races. Being told of the future conflict between Terrans and the MotI they agree to help them in a truly long term project - the construction of a fully automated fleet of modern battleships along with a mobile fleet carrier of titanic proportions: A half-sphere with a diameter of 200 kilometers and a height of 100 km, along with a fleet of 15.000 battleships, each a sphere with a diameter of 2.5km.
However, OLD MAN appeared long after the conflict was over and the disembodied brains of the original crew have long since gone completely insane ...

The Swarm - a mobile mini galaxy that traveled into the milky way, emitting a radiation that severely hampers the thinking process of all intelligent beings. The inhabitants of the Swarm raid the helpless planets and even abduct some solar systems they particulary like.

The Endless Armada - A fleet of ships so numerous that the space it spans is measured by light years is on a millions of years long quest to find the Frost-Ruby, a cosmic artifact part of the DNA of the universe - and mistakingly traces it to the milky way. With the help of the Terrans they trace it's location to the Galaxy M-87 where it is defended by a negative super-intelligence which among other things used para-dimensional elements defying the laws of physics against it's enemies.

Tarkan - inhabitants of a dying universe attempt to save themselves by transferring their galaxy into our universe.

Thoregon - And alliance of super-intelligences attempts to build a region of space-time spanning dozens of galaxies which will be seperate from the direct influence of Kosmokrats and Chaotarchs ... because in the end, victory for either side will likely mean the end of intelligent life in the universe.

The technological evolution in the series is quite remarkable, especially given how it started. For example, in the early stages of the series contemporary computers were giant room-filling black boxes of arcane tech, who printed out their results on punch tape.
The first terran-built hyperspace capable ships had computers that printed their results on PLASTIC punch tape!!! :)

Kidding aside, the creativity involved in their future tech (especially weapon systems) is more than satisfactory. Start with beam weapons and solid energy shields, then go on to matter transporters dumping bombs directly at the target, which is shielded by force fields that dump excess energy simply into another dimension.
Introduce the continuum-cannon, which simply circumvents energy shields by ripping open the dimensional barriers in a narrow funnel through which you blast energy directly into the target. However, a Relativfield encases ships in an artificial micro-universe, effectively hiding it several seconds in the future where there is no harm.

Sometimes I wonder what stuff they are smoking when they come up with this.
 
Since it is on my to-do list where should one stop reading the Dune series?
I would read Dune and Dune Messiah (Children of Dune if you like those). If you really like the Dune universe, keep reading God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune, and Chapterhouse: Dune. All the ones after that are written by KJA and Brian Herbert.

On the subject of the KJA books, the Butlerian Jihad books were completely acceptable pop sci-fi books (and were what got me into the Dune series). The House books were likewise completely acceptable pop sci-fi.

Aroddo said:
The first terran-built hyperspace capable ships had computers that printed their results on PLASTIC punch tape!!!
I've run into similar stuff with Poul Anderson's Terran Empire series. Mankind has conquered most of the known universe but the ships are still programmed by cassettes.
 
In the Alpha Centauri manual, designer Brian Reynolds lists the following books as being worth a read:

The Jesus Incident by Frank Herbert
Dune by Frank Herbert
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
Anvil of Stars by Greg Bear
Slant by Greg Bear
The Mote in God's Eye by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
The Real Story by Stephen R. Donaldson
Red Mars by Kim Stanley Robertson

Many good books here yes. Brian Reynold has good taste. The "Scream Room" from the Jesus Incident still haunts me though.
 
it's a shame how Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson ruined the series.
all time low: giant killer robot titan gets embarrassed telling a human kid about the birds and bees ....
That was ridiculous, but it's not the very worst part.

Since it is on my to-do list where should one stop reading the Dune series?
Read everything written by FRANK HERBERT.

  1. Dune
  2. Dune Messiah
  3. Children of Dune
  4. God Emperor of Dune
  5. Heretics of Dune
  6. Chapterhouse: Dune

Ignore the rest unless it's the Dune Encyclopedia by Dr. Willis E. McNelly or National Lampoon's DOON.

The National Lampoon book is absolutely hilarious - the best-written parody I've ever read of ANY science fiction story.

The Dune Encyclopedia is a huge volume of essays written by various "historians" throughout the 20,000+ years of the Imperium, collected and revised by Frank Herbert's real-life friend Dr. McNelly. This is the ONLY Frank Herbert-sanctioned Dune book that wasn't written by Herbert himself (although I admit I don't know if he authorized the National Lampoon book).

You may find Dreamer of Dune (by Brian Herbert) interesting; it's BH's biography of his father.

The sequels to the original novels are ... well, decent, I guess. One can assume that they broadly went into the direction Frank Herbert intended, although their execution has the mark of the star wars generation.
No, NO NO!!!

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They are NOT "decent." They are a tragic waste of trees. And they went NOWHERE that Frank Herbert intended! This stuff about working from the "notes" is just a pack of lies as far as I'm concerned, unless they found the incomplete manuscript for "Dune 7" (the real sequel to Chapterhouse: Dune), looked at it, mused that it was too hard for the average Star Wars fan to understand, and substituted their own garbage.

I would read Dune and Dune Messiah (Children of Dune if you like those). If you really like the Dune universe, keep reading God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune, and Chapterhouse: Dune. All the ones after that are written by KJA and Brian Herbert.

On the subject of the KJA books, the Butlerian Jihad books were completely acceptable pop sci-fi books (and were what got me into the Dune series). The House books were likewise completely acceptable pop sci-fi.
You don't mind SCIENCE fiction books that ignore relativity? Or the fact that there is an "up" and "down" in space as well as "left", "right", "forward", and "back"? :huh: These are concepts that KJA/BH seem to keep forgetting.


C. J. Cherryh writes awesome SF books. Her universes are just outstanding. "Downbelow station" "Cyteen" "the Faded Sun" "Foreigner" and "Invader"
By coincidence, I'm currently reading Regenesis, the sequel to Cyteen. I hope there's another book coming - and that it doesn't take so many years! Mind you, these are complex stories, so I'd rather she take enough time to do them justice. :)
 
No, NO NO!!!

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They are NOT "decent." They are a tragic waste of trees. And they went NOWHERE that Frank Herbert intended! This stuff about working from the "notes" is just a pack of lies as far as I'm concerned, unless they found the incomplete manuscript for "Dune 7" (the real sequel to Chapterhouse: Dune), looked at it, mused that it was too hard for the average Star Wars fan to understand, and substituted their own garbage.

Weeeell, given how KJA and Frank Herbert's misbegotten son first went on to create funny giant killer robots who suddenly took an interest in parenting only to create some characters to reuse in the Dune sequels, I assume they did indeed find some notes on who the enemy was the honored Matres were fleeing from. And instead of squeezing all the material in one or two exciting novels like Frank Herbert would have done, they wrote half a dozen of crappy to average prequels (probably to practice) before writing their pop scifi sequels.
For those that don't want to suffer through them:
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The big enemy is giant killer robots! o_O


PS: Yes, the sequels are basically sh!t. To get a grip on who they hired to write them, look at KJA's original seven part "space opera", The Saga of Seven Suns. It's entertaining but incredibly naive. Like "oh, you are water aliens and you are plant aliens. Let's just bunch you together and maybe you become superduper aliens". No, I'm not exaggerating.
But it's really not that different from Star Wars, which is basically cheap pulp scifi made cinema.

So by that measuring stick, the Dune sequels are decent.
 
I hadn't read any of BH's previous writings before picking up House Atreides. I seem to recall reading something of KJA's involving Mos Eisley cantina and enjoying that for the fluff it is.

I would expect any serious author trying to write a Dune story to be true to the basics set up by Frank Herbert. Paul was born on Caladan, Duncan Idaho's first blooding was on Grumman, and Paul did NOT run off and join the <censored-censored-censored> CIRCUS, on another planet, AT AGE 12! :gripe:

And fast-forward 5000 years... Marty and Daniel weren't robots - they were Face Dancers.

And there's no way in anywhere that the KJA/BH version of the Butlerian Jihad could possibly have been fought in real-time. If there's an afterlife, I hope Einstein kicks these characters' backsides for a few millennia...

(and so on and so forth... *grumble*)
 
Read everything written by FRANK HERBERT.

Or rather: Read Dune and then keep going through the original Frank Herbert books until you feel like stopping; then stop (if you don't like book N in the series you won't like book N+1 either, so trying to go any further will only make you like the whole series less). I did read the whole thing when I was a teenager but I've only revisited the first couple of books since then.
 
Or rather: Read Dune and then keep going through the original Frank Herbert books until you feel like stopping; then stop (if you don't like book N in the series you won't like book N+1 either, so trying to go any further will only make you like the whole series less). I did read the whole thing when I was a teenager but I've only revisited the first couple of books since then.
Fair enough. Dune can stand alone quite well as a complete story, if the reader doesn't feel like going further.

However, the series is structured as a trilogy, single, then another trilogy. Unfortunately, the final book in the second trilogy was never finished (I refuse to consider those abominations Hunters/Sandworms of Dune as the real "Dune 7").

I will concede that Children of Dune is a tough slog, and it took many read-throughs and joining a (now-defunct) Dune forum to even begin to understand God Emperor of Dune.

Heretics and Chapterhouse aren't to some peoples' liking - they do have some really bizarre stuff in them - but since my favorite character has always been Duncan Idaho, I enjoyed them.
 
I always recommend Blindsight by Peter Watts. Even if it does not prefectly fit your criteria. It's an intense story of first contact with an alien intelligence. You can find it free and legal online if you google for it (alongside the rest of Watts' stuff).
I support Blindsight. It is also available in Russian. Very deep story and daring thesis. Though it must be said it iron hard science fiction, just look at the reference list at the end :).
 
Salt:
Reviewing the novel for Infinity Plus, Stuart Carter writes, "Doris Lessing and Iain Banks collaborate to rewrite The Dispossessed, and do a better job of it than anyone might reasonably hope!
I've got to look at this book, haven't I?
 
I've read through KJA Saga and it was the worst. I will most certainly never touch anything written by that man again. For people who like their sci-fi really high tech I'd recommend Illium and Quantum Thief.
 
I've thought that something like that would make a good setting for a story, but I haven't come across one like that, or had enough ideas to warrant making my own. (Of course, if you do, you could certainly do that. that way, you'd check all your boxes :))
 
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