ls612's C2C Units

[JosEPh_II]

Here you go ...

C2C - Promotions
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=458193

Not sure why you could not find it. I just used the search button and put in "Promotions" and it came up.

Thanks.
Cause I didn't use search nor go back more than 1 page. And it might have been named something else or carried over into a different thread like what happens very often. So I didn't dig deep enough. Had other things on my mind at the time too.

JosEPh

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

Here is a new icon/button for the Spartan Warrior so it has a different icon/button than Leonidas (hero).

 

[Thunderbrd]

It would IMO be better as a disposable thing. IE, it will trigger and resurrect the unit, but then it will go away and the unit can be killed normally. That would require some python though to do.

Actually... this was only my project insofar as I was asked to merge it in. By ALL means if you want to take a look at the code and adjust it to improved balance, be my guest. I can then take that as a project OFF my list. What do you say?

The tag is bOneUp. I did not thoroughly evaluate its affect - just merged it figuring we'd get feedback and then have to take a deeper look at it. Here we are at that point then.

 

[strategyonly]

It would IMO be better as a disposable thing. IE, it will trigger and resurrect the unit, but then it will go away and the unit can be killed normally. That would require some python though to do.

Actually... this was only my project insofar as I was asked to merge it in. By ALL means if you want to take a look at the code and adjust it to improved balance, be my guest. I can then take that as a project OFF my list. What do you say?

The tag is bOneUp. I did not thoroughly evaluate its affect - just merged it figuring we'd get feedback and then have to take a deeper look at it. Here we are at that point then.

I believe i have the python already in game from DH, its called respawn. (I believe)

 

[ls612]

Actually... this was only my project insofar as I was asked to merge it in. By ALL means if you want to take a look at the code and adjust it to improved balance, be my guest. I can then take that as a project OFF my list. What do you say?

The tag is bOneUp. I did not thoroughly evaluate its affect - just merged it figuring we'd get feedback and then have to take a deeper look at it. Here we are at that point then.

I am certainly not good at Python, so that would be something for someone else to do. Or you could reuse the Respawn code and add a clause to delete the promotion after use.

@ls612

Here is a new icon/button for the Spartan Warrior so it has a different icon/button than Leonidas (hero).

Done now on the SVN.

 

[Thunderbrd]

There's two subjects we're talking about here. The original Respawn promotion works like you say... the promotion vanishes once the unit is given its life back. That is handled in Python.

But there's a dll driven TAG in use (bOneUp) on the new promo that Joseph had struggles with. The actual dynamics of that tag are something I blindly merged and did not attempt to fully understand. There may be ways to vary its effect from the Respawn promotion so that we have two differing effects but at the same time make SURE the OneUp tag is brought into a balance that denies it the ability to become far too OP in play.

I'm not sure what the best answer for adjusting OneUp would be, and we'd want it to not be a carbon copy of the Respawn promo, but it appears to me that its ability to happen multiple times in one round is outside the bounds of OP. Koshling said the tag should have a chance of working... I'd think either limiting it to functioning only once in a given round or forcing the unit to teleport back to the capital or any unthreatened city might be a couple of possible solutions. Or reducing chance of working each time it takes effect? I dunno...

Point being all that's IN the dll.

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

Here is a new culture unit.

New Zealand Infantry (National Unit - Limit 15)
Graphic: (See Attachment)
Icon: (Need to Make)
Type: Gunpowder/Combatant
Strength: 34
Movement: 1
Cost: 840
Req Tech: Automatic Weapons
Req Resource: New Zealand, Firearms and Ammo
Req Building: -
Upgrades To: Modern Infantry, Marine, Paratrooper

Special Abilities

• +25% vs City Defense
• +25% vs Gunpowder
• Starts with Amphibious, City Garrison I, City Garrison II, City Garrison III

Note: Use Infantry as a Base.

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[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

1. Here is the icon/button for the New Zealand Infantry.

2. Can you try to figure out why the Brigade Piron (Belgan) units are not working?

 

[Hydromancerx]

Anyone know of a good Irish unit we can have for that culture? Think more modern Irish, post-Gunpowder on.

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

Here is a new Post-Apocalyptic unit.

Molotov Cocktail Thrower
Graphic: Here
Icon: ?
Type: Throwing/Gunpowder/Combatant
Strength: 13
Movement: 1
Cost: 100
Req Tech: Guerrilla Warfare
Req Resource: Alcohol OR Tar OR Olive Oil OR Fish Oil OR Ghee Oil OR Kerosene OR Whale Oil
Req Building: -
Upgrades To: Grenadier

Special Abilities

• 0-2 First Strikes
• Can Withdraw from Combat (17% Chance)
• Will Began to Withdrawal each round once injured until 30% HP rather than maintain combat until death.
• Cause Collateral Damage (Max 17% to 2 Units)
• +20% City Attack
• +20% vs Siege Weapons
• Can Bombard City Defenses (5%/Turn)

Note: Use Arsonist as a Base.

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[Thunderbrd]

AWESOME! That graphic is PERFECT! So sweet man!

Everything looks spot on about that with one noteable exception. The strength seems a little shy. The other Apocalyptic units are at 11, 12, 15, 15, 15 so 10 would make it a little substandard to the rest of that line where in most cases of the Gunpowder Throwing units, the strength appears to be fairly comparable to its other contemporaries.

Ex: Infantry: 34, Modern Grenadier: 34.

So I'd suggest at least 13 or 14. It's fairly standard so far for the post apocalyptic units to be given the Renaissance level abilities of comparable unit types so the comparison to the Arsonist is pretty much right on but to also have much higher strength than that unit level.

Anyhow, just imo. The fact that you found the unit art and put together an excellent layout based on the Arsonist is just wonderful! Well done H!

 

[Hydromancerx]

Ok I will bump it to 13 then.

 

[ls612]

I've added the Grenadier one to the SVN, it needs an icon though.

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

Here is a icon/button for the Molotov Cocktail Thrower.

 

[strategyonly]

@ls612

Here is a icon/button for the Molotov Cocktail Thrower.

So you got your now PC up and raring to go again?

 

[Hydromancerx]

So you got your now PC up and raring to go again?

Aside from a few older programs such as 3DS Max6, Evolution, Outpost and all the old Sim games like Sim Earth, Sim Life, etc. I love those old games but even when using compatibility mode it was not working. Its funny since the newer the program the easier it was to re-install. It was once I got to programs that were older than 2000 that I ran into problems.

 

[ls612]

Aside from a few older programs such as 3DS Max6, Evolution, Outpost and all the old Sim games like Sim Earth, Sim Life, etc. I love those old games but even when using compatibility mode it was not working. Its funny since the newer the program the easier it was to re-install. It was once I got to programs that were older than 2000 that I ran into problems.

Do you know how to use Compatability mode for old programs?

 

[Hydromancerx]

Do you know how to use Compatability mode for old programs?

Yes and in fact it worked for other programs I have.

In fact Evolution almost works but gives a "MEM_BAD_POINTER" error when starting the game.

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

Here is a new culture unit.

Inniskilling (National Unit - Limit 15)
Graphic: Here (Use Inniskilling unit)
Icon: (Same As Above)
Type: Gunpowder/Combatant
Strength: 26
Movement: 1
Cost: 370
Req Tech: Rifling
Req Resource: Irish, Firearms and Ammo
Req Building: -
Upgrades To: Trench Infantry

Special Abilities

• +25% vs Mounted
• Build +15% with Flint
• Starts with Pinch I, Morale

Note: Use Rifleman as a Base.

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Thanks!

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

When you return here is a new Steapunk unit!

Cloud Destroyer (National Unit - Limit 15)
Graphic: Here (Use bottom left texture)
Icon: ?
Type: Helicopter/Combatant
Strength: 35
Movement: 3
Cost: 500
Req Tech: Steampunk AND Balloon Warfare
Req Resource: Steampunk AND Hydrogen
Req Building: -
Upgrades To: Attack Helicopter

Special Abilities

• Cannot Entire Polar Ocean, Ocean or Tropical Ocean.
• This Unit is Tradable
• Cannot Capture Enemy Cities or Units
• Doesn't Receive Defense Bonuses
• Ignores Terrain Movement Costs
• Can Withdraw from Combat (25% Chance)
• +100% vs Hot Air Balloon
• +75% vs Blimp
• +50% vs Barrage Balloons
• +25% vs Airship
• Can Bombard City Defenses (-12%/Turn)
• Starts with Sentry

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Thanks!