ls612's C2C Units

[strategyonly]

Arsonist -> Sapper -> Petard -> Demolitionist -> ?

I also was thinking about self destructing units. Like Suicide Bombers.

I dont think there is a "petard" person. Petard's are a destructive "device."

 

[Hydromancerx]

I dont think there is a "petard" person. Petard's are a destructive "device."

I ment like in Age of Empires 2 ...

http://ageofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Petard_(Age_of_Empires_II)

Note that in AOE2 they explode and are self destructing units. I have wanted them in Civ4 for a very long time but no one has made a model for it yet (I have asked a few times).

 

[strategyonly]

I ment like in Age of Empires 2 ...

http://ageofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Petard_(Age_of_Empires_II)

Note that in AOE2 they explode and are self destructing units. I have wanted them in Civ4 for a very long time but no one has made a model for it yet (I have asked a few times).

So then the "petard" would be the 1st Suicide Bomber, so to speak?

 

[Hydromancerx]

Yes. But with Gunpowder and not high explosives.

 

[strategyonly]

yes. But with gunpowder (and a wick) and not high explosives.

. . . . .

 

[Hydromancerx]

Obsidian Swordsman
Graphic: Jaguar Warrior type grpahic
Icon: (Need to make)
Type: Melee
Strength: 5
Movement: 1
Cost: 45
Req Tech: Obsidian Weapons
Req Resource: -
Req Building: -
Upgrades To: Light Swordsman

Special Abilities

• +20% City Attack
• Builds 15% Faster with Stone
• Builds 15% Faster with Obsidian
• Builds 15% Faster with Flint

So I finally was able to find an appropriate graphic for it. Its a tweaked Mayan Light Swordsman that we actually don't use. I tried to pick one that looked at generic as possible. I also removed the jaguar hood. Then I made a custom icon/button for it.

The upgrade path is now ...

Stone Maceman -> Obsidian Swordsman -> Light Swordsman

Which makes a lot of sense since the Maceman line already had a +10% City Attack ad then the Swordsman line has 20% City Attack. So its a nice transition from one unit type to another.

I also removed the upgrade from the Spearman to the Light Swordsman. It did not make much sense and I think I was the one who had that added in the first place.

EDIT: So now the units have a much more natural flow ...

Brute
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v
Clubman -> Wooden Spearman -> Stone Spearman -> Obsidian Spearman -> Spearman
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v
Spiked Clubman -> Stone Axeman -> Obsidian Axeman -> Axeman
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v
Stone Maceman -> Obsidian Swordsman -> Light Swordsman
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v
Obsidian Maceman
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v
Maceman

 

[Thunderbrd]

That looks good H!

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

Here is a new culture unit.

Inniskilling (National Unit - Limit 15)
Graphic: Here (Use Inniskilling unit)
Icon: (Same As Above)
Type: Gunpowder/Combatant
Strength: 26
Movement: 1
Cost: 370
Req Tech: Rifling
Req Resource: Irish, Firearms and Ammo
Req Building: -
Upgrades To: Trench Infantry

Special Abilities

• +25% vs Mounted
• Build +15% with Flint
• Starts with Pinch I, Morale

Note: Use Rifleman as a Base.

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Thanks!

@ls612

The animation seems off. The arms are in weird spots. Do you know if its the model or your just using the wrong animations?

Also please don't forget to make the Cloud Destroyer (Steampunk) unit.

 

[strategyonly]

@ls612

The animation seems off. The arms are in weird spots. Do you know if its the model or your just using the wrong animations?

Also please don't forget to make the Cloud Destroyer (Steampunk) unit.

When arms are like that its ALWAYs the kfm that is incorrect.

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

Here are some new units ...

Trench Machine Gun
Graphic: (See Attachment)
Icon: (See Attachment)
Type: Combatant/Siege Weapons
Strength: 35
Movement: 1
Cost: 640
Req Tech: Trench Warfare
Req Resource: Ammunition
Req Building: -
Upgrades To: Modern Machine Gun

Special Abilities

• Can Only Defend
• 1 First Strike
• Can Intercept Aircraft (18% Chance)
• +100% vs Archers
• +100% vs Throwing
• +75% vs Mounted
• +100% vs Melee
• +50% vs Gunpowder
• +100% vs Animals
• +25% vs Wheeled
• Starts with Trench I

Note: Use Machine Gun as a Base.

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Modern Machine Gun
Graphic: (See Attachment)
Icon: (See Attachment)
Type: Combatant/Siege Weapons
Strength: 55
Movement: 1
Cost: 1170
Req Tech: Automatic Weapons AND Manufacturing
Req Resource: Ammunition
Req Building: -
Upgrades To: Unmanned Machine Gun

Special Abilities

• Can Only Defend
• 1 First Strike
• Can Intercept Aircraft (20% Chance)
• +100% vs Archers
• +100% vs Throwing
• +100% vs Mounted
• +100% vs Melee
• +75% vs Gunpowder
• +100% vs Animals
• +50% vs Wheeled

Note: Use Machine Gun as a Base.

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Unmanned Machine Gun
Graphic: Here
Icon: ?
Type: Combatant/Siege Weapons
Strength: 110
Movement: 1
Cost: 3000
Req Tech: Military Robotics
Req Resource: Ammunition AND Computers
Req Building: -
Upgrades To: -

Special Abilities

• Can Only Defend
• 1 First Strike
• Can Intercept Aircraft (22% Chance)
• +100% vs Archers
• +100% vs Throwing
• +100% vs Mounted
• +100% vs Melee
• +100% vs Gunpowder
• +100% vs Animals
• +75% vs Wheeled
• +25% vs Clone
• +25% vs Robot

Note: Use Machine Gun as a Base.

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The Upgrade Path should go ...

Gatling Gun -> Machine Gun -> Trench Machine Gun -> Modern Machine Gun -> Unmanned Machine Gun

Thanks!

 

[ls612]

@Hydro:

Do these units use the Machine gun animations or do they not have any animations?

 

[Hydromancerx]

I think machine gun animations. They were extracted from existing mods.

Trench Machine Gun = Realism Invictus (extracted from their FPK).

Modern Machine Gun = Here (I tweaked the texture)

 

[climat]

		<UnitClassInfo>
			<Type>UNITCLASS_SHANG_CHARIOT</Type>
			<iMaxPlayerInstances>15</iMaxPlayerInstances>
			<iInstanceCostModifier>2</iInstanceCostModifier>
		</UnitClassInfo>
		<UnitClassInfo>
			<Type>UNITCLASS_CATAMARAN</Type>[B]
			<iMaxPlayerInstances>-1</iMaxPlayerInstances>
			<iInstanceCostModifier>0</iInstanceCostModifier>[/B]
		</UnitClassInfo>

It may be overlooked?

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

Please make the Ski Patrol the Norwegian culture unit. It need to be chnage to a national unit with a limit of 15 as well as the Marine should no longer upgrade to it. Plus require Norwegian culture instead of Skis and the whole cost thingy that culture units get.

Thanks!

 

[crazyewok]

Couple of Ideas:

vertical take-off and landing aircraft (VTOL): Eg Harrier Jumpjets and F-35B

You could fit double the amount in a aircraft carrier, though there range would be small.


Amphibious assault ship/ Light Carrier: Wasp Class, Invincible-class.

Can only carry VTOL aircraft and helicopters. Cheaper than a full size Aircraft carrier

Also think the Aircraft Carriers and laster stealth fighters price shoild be increased. They should be expensive units to have.


Few Ideas for late modern future units.
Active denial system: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System
Directed engergy and EM weapons: http://www.ausairpower.net/dew-ebomb.html
Zeus-HLONS:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZEUSL-HLONS_(HMMWV_Laser_Ordnance_Neutralization_System)
Anit air Laser: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/07/humvee-with-boeing-laser-avenger-blasts-uavs/
Laser tank: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/12/super-secret-russian-laser-tank-revealed/
6th Generation fighter :http://weapons.technology.youngester.com/2010/05/6th-generation-fighter-boeing-fa-xx-on.html
Next Generation bomber : http://defensetech.org/2013/04/22/next-generation-bomber-survives-budget-tightening/

 

[crazyewok]

space units when space is added:

Boeing X-37: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-37B

Skylon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaction_Engines_Skylon

Orion nuclear propulsion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion)

 

[Hydromancerx]

@Faustmouse

I need you to add the Unmanned Machine Gun that was posted here sicne it appears that ls612 never made it.

 

[Hydromancerx]

@ls612

When you return here is a new Steapunk unit!

Cloud Destroyer (National Unit - Limit 15)
Graphic: Here (Use bottom left texture)
Icon: ?
Type: Balloon/Combatant
Strength: 35
Movement: 3
Cost: 500
Req Tech: Steampunk AND Balloon Warfare
Req Resource: Steampunk AND Hydrogen
Req Building: -
Upgrades To: Attack Helicopter

Special Abilities

• Cannot Entire Polar Ocean, Ocean or Tropical Ocean.
• This Unit is Tradable
• Cannot Capture Enemy Cities or Units
• Doesn't Receive Defense Bonuses
• Ignores Terrain Movement Costs
• Can Withdraw from Combat (25% Chance)
• +100% vs Hot Air Balloon
• +75% vs Blimp
• +50% vs Barrage Balloons
• +25% vs Airship
• Can Bombard City Defenses (-12%/Turn)
• Starts with Sentry

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Thanks!

Fausmouse can you do this since ls612 never did it. Note it should be put in the Steampunk mod.

 

[Faustmouse]

Ok I took a look on units and right now I'm totally overstrained. Is there a tutorial for units, like the one for buildings?

 

[Hydromancerx]

Not that I am aware of. However its not too different from buildings. Feel free to ask questions or even ls612 since he has done a lot of them.