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MacLordsv01 ~ By Any Means Necessary

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Succession Games' started by dojoboy, May 2, 2007.

  1. Ankh-f-n-Khonsu

    Ankh-f-n-Khonsu forth-speaker of Mentu

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    Willpax, fwiw that sounds about right to me. Our break conveniently fell during some busy RL time for me as well, but glad to get back into it now. :)
     
  2. willpax

    willpax Warlord

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    OK--the mopping up against Mao proceeded very quickly (one city per turn), which was good, because our economy was one city razing away from collapse the whole time. In 1676, the Chinese were destroyed, and I immediately switched to universal suffrage and emancipation to deal with unhappiness issues, relieve ourselves of a crushing maintenance burden for 3 turns, speed the building of the palace, and help with righting our economy before taking on Liz.

    On the next turn, Ghandi shows up and offers to become our vassal, completely voluntarily. I think he doesn't want to become the next target for the mighty cossacks. Having already made one major move with the civics change, I thought I would give a brief window for consultation (and hope that the approaching storm doesn't knock out power briefly). I don't see the down side, but maintenance costs have been an issue. If y'all check in this afternoon, what do you think? Should we accept Ghandi's offer to become our vassal?
     
  3. dojoboy

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    Good news. I say accept the offer.
     
  4. willpax

    willpax Warlord

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    Here's my report:

    1670: Begin researching steel. St. Pete finishes Forbidden Palace. Raze Guangzhou.

    1673: Raze Tianjin.

    1676: Raze Goth, and their little piercings, too. The war with the Chinese is over. Given widespread discontent and a looming budget crisis, I adopt universal suffrage (to capitalize on the towns) and emancipation (which our people have been demanding now that the Brits and Indians have it). Three turns of anarchy begin.

    1679: Ghandi offers himself as a vassal. Uh, sure. It does mean we can make things miserable for Liz soon.

    1682: Units continue moving back from the wasteland that was China.

    1685: Augustus demands democracy (his people, too, most likely). We refuse. He doesn't like Ghandi being our vassal.

    1688: The Glorious Revolution is complete. I move to some civilian builds for the short term--library in Yaroslavl, bank in Hippo, theater in Utica. After that, I'll start churning out anti-redcoat grenadiers.

    1691: Lacking better ideas, I start the Colossus in Carthage. It'll be 9 turns, Carthage works 2 seafood, and I don't think astronomy is a high priority for us right now. Change it if you don't like it. Utica starts library.

    1694: St. Pete and Utica begin producing grenadiers.

    1697: All units are back in home territory. Steel is still 7 turns away, more or less; Istanbul will complete the new Palace next turn, which should help our cash flow. We can probably declare shortly after finishing steel; Liz has shot up the power graph, probably due to upgrading units to redcoats. It's going to be a UU vs. UU showdown.

    http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/95757/MacLordsV01_AD-1697.CivWarlordsSave

    Spoiler :

    <b><u>Turn 360/660 (1670 AD) [10-Jul-2007 12:38:01]</b></u><br>
    <span style="color: Green">Research begun: Steel (11 Turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">St. Petersburg begins: Cossack (2 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Hadrumetum begins: Grenadier (7 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: Red">While attacking in Chinese territory at Guangzhou, Trebuchet loses to: Chinese Longbowman (3.96/6) (Prob Victory: 16.0%)</span><br>
    <span style="color: Red">While attacking in Chinese territory at Guangzhou, Cossack loses to: Chinese Musketman (4.14/9) (Prob Victory: 93.6%)</span><br>
    <span style="color: DarkRed">While attacking in Chinese territory at Guangzhou, Cossack defeats (12.90/15): Chinese Longbowman (Prob Victory: 98.4%)</span><br>
    <span style="color: DarkRed">While attacking in Chinese territory at Guangzhou, Cossack defeats (4.50/15): Chinese Longbowman (Prob Victory: 98.4%)</span><br>
    <span style="color: DarkRed">While attacking in Chinese territory at Guangzhou, Cossack defeats (8.25/15): Chinese Longbowman (Prob Victory: 95.3%)</span><br>
    <span style="color: DarkRed">While attacking in Chinese territory at Guangzhou, Cossack defeats (2.40/15): Chinese Maceman (Prob Victory: 99.1%)</span><br>
    <span style="color: DarkRed">While attacking in Chinese territory at Guangzhou, Cossack defeats (8.25/15): Chinese Longbowman (Prob Victory: 99.1%)</span><br>
    <span style="color: DarkRed">While attacking in Chinese territory at Guangzhou, Cossack defeats (12.75/15): Chinese Musketman (Prob Victory: 99.9%)</span><br>
    <span style="color: DarkOrange">Judaism has spread: Guangzhou</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">Captured Guangzhou (Mao Zedong)</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">Razed Guangzhou</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">Guangzhou lost</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">Novgorod grows: 12</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Rostov finishes: Trebuchet</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">Carthage grows: 8</span><br>
    <span style="color: SeaGreen">Civics Change: Mao Zedong(China) from 'Theocracy' to 'Pacifism'</span><br>
    <br>
    <b><u>Turn 361/660 (1673 AD) [10-Jul-2007 12:48:24]</b></u><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Rostov begins: Grenadier (8 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: DarkOrange">Cossack promoted: Medic II</span><br>
    <span style="color: DarkRed">While attacking in Roman territory at Ravenna, Grenadier defeats (11.52/12): Chinese Pikeman (Prob Victory: 100.0%)</span><br>
    <span style="color: DarkRed">While attacking in Chinese territory at Tianjin, Cossack defeats (15.00/15): Chinese Pikeman (Prob Victory: 75.7%)</span><br>
    <span style="color: DarkOrange">Christianity has spread: Tianjin</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">Captured Tianjin (Mao Zedong)</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">Razed Tianjin</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">Tianjin lost</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">St. Petersburg finishes: Cossack</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Yekaterinburg finishes: Grenadier</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">Hadrumetum grows: 8</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">A Hamlet was built near Hadrumetum</span><br>
    <br>
    <b><u>Turn 362/660 (1676 AD) [10-Jul-2007 12:52:09]</b></u><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">St. Petersburg begins: Confucian Temple (4 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Yekaterinburg begins: Harbor (8 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: DarkRed">While attacking in Chinese territory at Goth, Cossack defeats (3.90/15): Chinese Longbowman (Prob Victory: 60.1%)</span><br>
    <span style="color: DarkOrange">Christianity has spread: Goth</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">Captured Goth (Mao Zedong)</span><br>
    <span style="color: Red">Chinese Empire has been eliminated</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">Razed Goth</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">Goth lost</span><br>
    <span style="color: Blue">Attitude Change: Gandhi(India) towards MacLordsV01(Russia), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly'</span><br>
    <span style="color: SeaGreen">Civics Change: MacLordsV01(Russia) from 'Police State' to 'Universal Suffrage'</span><br>
    <span style="color: SeaGreen">Civics Change: MacLordsV01(Russia) from 'Slavery' to 'Emancipation'</span><br>
    <br>
    <b><u>Turn 363/660 (1679 AD) [10-Jul-2007 12:58:00]</b></u><br>
    <span style="color: Red">Team 3 becomes a Vassal State of Team 0</span><br>
    <span style="color: Green">Tech learned: Scientific Method</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">A Farm was built near Utica</span><br>
    <br>
    <b><u>Turn 364/660 (1682 AD) [10-Jul-2007 20:00:44]</b></u><br>
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    <b><u>Turn 365/660 (1685 AD) [10-Jul-2007 20:01:50]</b></u><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Yaroslavl' finishes: Cossack</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">Yekaterinburg grows: 13</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">Yakutsk grows: 10</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Yakutsk finishes: Grenadier</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Hippo finishes: University</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Utica finishes: Cossack</span><br>
    <br>
    <b><u>Turn 366/660 (1688 AD) [10-Jul-2007 20:04:51]</b></u><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Yaroslavl' begins: Library (3 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Yakutsk begins: Grenadier (6 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Hippo begins: Bank (17 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Utica begins: Theatre (2 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Moscow begins: Trebuchet (6 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Moscow finishes: Trebuchet</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">Yaroslavl' grows: 12</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Carthage finishes: Cossack</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Utica finishes: Theatre</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">A Town was built near Hadrumetum</span><br>
    <br>
    <b><u>Turn 367/660 (1691 AD) [10-Jul-2007 20:09:29]</b></u><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Carthage begins: The Colossus (10 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Utica begins: Library (4 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">New Kerk begins: Theatre (2 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">St. Petersburg finishes: Confucian Temple</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">New Kerk grows: 12</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Utica finishes: Library</span><br>
    <br>
    <b><u>Turn 368/660 (1694 AD) [10-Jul-2007 20:13:40]</b></u><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">St. Petersburg begins: Grenadier (2 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Utica begins: Grenadier (7 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Moscow begins: Grenadier (7 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">A Cottage was built near Utica</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Hadrumetum begins: Theatre (3 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">Moscow grows: 18</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">St. Petersburg finishes: Grenadier</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">A Village was built near Istanbul</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Yaroslavl' finishes: Library</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">New Kerk finishes: Theatre</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">A Town was built near Hippo</span><br>
    <br>
    <b><u>Turn 369/660 (1697 AD) [10-Jul-2007 20:17:07]</b></u><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">St. Petersburg begins: Grenadier (2 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: Purple">Yaroslavl' begins: Grenadier (5 turns)</span><br>
    <span style="color: RoyalBlue">A Cottage was built near Utica</span><br>
     
  5. dojoboy

    dojoboy Tsalagi

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    I just got back into town.

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  6. Welnic

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    1697 traded Scientific Method and Military Tradition to Augustus for Rifling and 340 gold. Figured that since we have been in Nationhood forever for basically nothing, draft Riflemen. Start making some Confucian missionaries since we have cities making military units that aren't our state religion. Run 7 specialists instead of 2 in the GP farm.

    1718 Cashed in GM in Delhi for 2850. Started researching Steam Power for Ironclads for resource defense from the English. Just realized that Gandhi was one turn from researching Steel, redirected his efforts to Biology. We should keep on top of him and steer him towards peaceful techs that we might want.

    I would like to get started building some ironclads before we declare on the English. We have enough money to promote some of the more experienced trebs and cats to cannons before (and during) the war. We could also just move into position which would take a couple of turns and just hit them, also.

    Yekaterinburg should continue to run as many specialist as possible. Working a tile that produces two food doesn't really get you anywhere in a GP farm.

    Spoiler :

    Tech learned: Rifling
    Yakutsk begins: Cossack (7 turns)
    [color=;Purple"]Novgorod begins: Confucian Missionary (5 turns)[/color]
    Moscow begins: Confucian Missionary (3 turns)
    A Hamlet was built near Moscow
    Novgorod grows: 12
    Istanbul grows: 18
    Istanbul finishes: Palace
    A Hamlet was built near Istanbul
    New Kerk finishes: Cossack
    A Town was built near Carthage
    Utica's borders expand
    Leptis finishes: Library

    Turn 370/660 (1700 AD) [12-Jul-2007 22:42:32]
    Istanbul begins: University (15 turns)
    New Kerk begins: Grenadier (6 turns)
    Leptis begins: Theatre (5 turns)
    St. Petersburg finishes: Grenadier
    Rostov grows: 9
    Leif Erickson (Great Merchant) born in Yekaterinburg
    Hippo grows: 9
    Hadrumetum's borders expand
    Hadrumetum finishes: Theatre

    Turn 371/660 (1703 AD) [12-Jul-2007 23:00:29]
    St. Petersburg begins: Grenadier (2 turns)
    Moscow finishes: Confucian Missionary
    Rostov finishes: Grenadier
    Yekaterinburg grows: 13
    A Village was built near Hadrumetum
    Leptis grows: 7

    Turn 372/660 (1706 AD) [12-Jul-2007 23:06:35]
    Rostov begins: Trebuchet (6 turns)
    Hadrumetum begins: Rifleman (11 turns)
    St. Petersburg grows: 16
    St. Petersburg finishes: Grenadier
    Novgorod finishes: Confucian Missionary
    A Hamlet was built near Istanbul
    Yekaterinburg finishes: Harbor
    Utica grows: 8
    Hadrumetum grows: 9
    Confucianism has spread: Karachi (English Empire)

    Turn 373/660 (1709 AD) [12-Jul-2007 23:12:02]
    St. Petersburg begins: Rifleman (2 turns)
    Yekaterinburg begins: Courthouse (18 turns)
    A Lumbermill was built near New Kerk
    Moscow grows: 18
    St. Petersburg finishes: Rifleman
    Rostov's borders expand
    Yaroslavl' finishes: Grenadier
    Carthage grows: 9
    Utica finishes: Grenadier
    Civics Change: Elizabeth(England) from 'Slavery' to 'Emancipation'

    Turn 374/660 (1712 AD) [12-Jul-2007 23:16:12]
    St. Petersburg begins: Trebuchet (2 turns)
    Yaroslavl' begins: Trebuchet (4 turns)
    Utica begins: Trebuchet (6 turns)
    A Lumbermill was built near Oxford
    Confucianism has spread: Yakutsk
    Yekaterinburg grows: 14
    New Kerk finishes: Grenadier
    Leptis finishes: Theatre

    Turn 375/660 (1715 AD) [12-Jul-2007 23:19:44]
    New Kerk begins: Trebuchet (5 turns)
    Leptis begins: University (38 turns)
    A Lumbermill was built near New Kerk
    Tech learned: Steel
    Moscow finishes: Grenadier
    St. Petersburg finishes: Cannon
    Novgorod grows: 13
    Istanbul grows: 19
    Carthage finishes: The Colossus
    Yakutsk finishes: Cossack

    Turn 376/660 (1718 AD) [12-Jul-2007 23:23:05]
    Research begun: Steam Power (14 Turns)
    St. Petersburg begins: Cannon (2 turns)
    St. Petersburg begins: Cannon (2 turns)
    Carthage begins: Lighthouse (4 turns)
    St. Petersburg finishes: Cannon
    A Village was built near Istanbul
    New Kerk finishes: Cannon
    Yakutsk grows: 11
    A Hamlet was built near Hadrumetum

    Turn 377/660 (1721 AD) [12-Jul-2007 23:28:56]
    New Kerk begins: Cannon (6 turns)
    Confucianism has spread: Hadrumetum
    Yakutsk finishes: Grenadier
    A Village was built near Hadrumetum
    Leptis's borders expand

    Turn 378/660 (1724 AD) [12-Jul-2007 23:32:18]
    Yakutsk begins: Drydock (6 turns)
    A Lumbermill was built near Yaroslavl'
    St. Petersburg finishes: Cannon
    A Town was built near Istanbul
    Yaroslavl' finishes: Cannon

    Turn 379/660 (1727 AD) [12-Jul-2007 23:36:31]
    St. Petersburg begins: Cannon (2 turns)
    Yaroslavl' begins: Cannon (5 turns)
    A Farm was built near Yaroslavl'
    Moscow begins: Colosseum (3 turns)
    Rostov begins: Drydock (9 turns)


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  7. dojoboy

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  8. Aoxomoxoa

    Aoxomoxoa Prince

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    I was gone camping this weekend, I will be able to get this done by tuesday, is that okay?

    Aoxo
     
  9. Ankh-f-n-Khonsu

    Ankh-f-n-Khonsu forth-speaker of Mentu

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    Works for me, but you'll probably have to skip my next turn as I'll be leaving Wednesday afternoon to go camping until Sunday.
     
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    You guys can swap.
     
  11. Onagan

    Onagan The Dutch

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    Hej Guys.

    I have great news, my daughter is back home since friday afternoon. Last weeks will be remembered, as it's a daddy's worst nightmare to have a sick child. I hope she will be soon the frisky girl she used to be.

    Thanks for your support,
    Onagan
     
  12. willpax

    willpax Warlord

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    That's wonderful news. A sick child is a father's worst nightmare, and I hope your child continues to recover quickly.
     
  13. Ankh-f-n-Khonsu

    Ankh-f-n-Khonsu forth-speaker of Mentu

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    Great news, Onagan. Thanks for the update, and best wishes for further health.
     
  14. Aoxomoxoa

    Aoxomoxoa Prince

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    My best wishes Onagon to you and your daughter.

    I'll have it posted in 8 hours.

    Aoxo
     
  15. Aoxomoxoa

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    Pre turn maneuvers - Went ahead and drafted three riflemen before ending. We have plenty of happiness in these cities so no worries. Build this up big time.

    Turn 1 - 1730 AD - Prepping for invasion of England. Most of her cities are guarded by 3 redcoats. I plan on attacking 5 cities initially. Karachi, Newcastle, Hastings, Warwick & Oxford. Drafting, upgrading cannons etc. We have a lot of troops so England is in big trouble. I see 3 -4 turns of prep. Upgraded lots of trebs, rushed a few buildings.

    Turn 2 - 1732 AD - More troop movements.

    Turn 3 - 1734 AD - Ditto above.

    Turn 4 - 1736 AD - 5 armies are in place. Pulling workers into cities as roads finish.

    Turn 5 - 1738 AD - Hrmm.. India says we are too weak to protect it and it have any interest in being our vassal. Not a smart move IMO. University finishes in Istanbul, going to rush Oxford with a GE.

    Turn 6 - 1740 AD - Oxford University is in, Istanbul is producing a whopping 223 beakers per turn! I'm going to declare, can't sit here with 5 big armies forever. Dropped science to 60. Karachi is razed. Oxford is razed. Whoops! caught lizzie with a settler and 2 longbowman with the 5th army near Hastings. My thinking is we can rush an ironclad or 2 when steam is in before Liz can get a Galleon over here.

    Turn 7 - 1742 AD - English calvary killed a cannon, Cossack took him out. We captured Newcastle and installed a governor, lost a cannon and a Grenadier. Wawick is captured, lost a Cossack.

    Turn 8 - 1744 AD - Making more grenadiers. Hastings is captured, lost 2 grenadiers. Phase 1 of the war is complete with the razing of Karachi and Oxford, and the capturing of Hastings, Newcastle & Warwick. Liz has no ships in view. A stack of calvary and a treb is outside of York. I have 3 divisions converging.

    Turn 9 - 1746 AD - Steam is in, set to Railroad. Coal in Rostov, Yaroslav and New Kirk. Rostov has iron and coal, but St. Pete has massive hammers. I will leave it up to the group where Ironworks goes.

    Turn 10 - 1746 AD - My Cossack on a hill scouting died nobly taking out a cat and 2 calvary before being blown away. Traded Steel and Democracy to Caesar for Biology, and traded wine for spices from him too.

    Okay. Many troops are converging on York from 3 directions. Liz has a loose 2Calv/Treb set that is probably retreating to York after failing to get Warwick back. Another army is nearing Coventry. Fair amount of unhappiness, but we are eating England for lunch. Railroads in 16 turns, workers are safely away from front. 2 Ironclads in queue in the south coast, would suggest rushing those when reasonable to head off any potential naval attack from England.



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    Your faithful,
    Aoxo
     
  16. dojoboy

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    Great news Onagan! Give that precious child a big hug for all of us dads.

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    Onagan, let us know if you wish to return. :)

    I'm away on holiday atm and cannot view the save file on my Dell laptop. :(
     
  17. dojoboy

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    Can someone upload a picture or two of the current situation?
     
  18. Aoxomoxoa

    Aoxomoxoa Prince

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    I left my disk at the office. If I can I will take some shots.

    Aoxo
     
  19. Aoxomoxoa

    Aoxomoxoa Prince

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    Okay here's the shot at York showing our troops and English defense.



    and here's Coventry



    Aoxo
     
  20. Aoxomoxoa

    Aoxomoxoa Prince

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    Is there anybody out there...:scan:
     

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