Mass Effect 3

Despite my best efforts to avoid spoilers until I get the game (should be soon) I found a few examples of Bioware's artists plagiarizing other people's work they found on google images.
Probably one of the most irritating examples:
Spoiler :

The face of everyone's favourite Quarrian:

Spoiler :
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This is pathetic.
 
If there's something that already fits what they want, why waste time making it?
 
Wha? Is that serious?
 
As far as I can tell yes it is legit.

Spoiler :
This scene is after Tali dies.

Spoiler :
By committing suicide.


If there's something that already fits what they want, why waste time making it?

Numerous reasons.
1. It isn't even a very good picture in the first place, especially with the sun flaring across half the face.

2. Unless they paid for the image (and the other one I saw looks unlikely to have been paid for) they plagiarized someone else's work which is not only illegal but completely inexcusable for a game developer, especially one as large as Bioware.

3. It is an extremely lazy and quarter-assed answer to a question many fans really wanted to know and they missed a huge opportunity
Spoiler :
to make the Quarrians look like something more than a human missing some fingers and toes.


EDIT:
Spoiler :
The final scene of the game is apparently copied from this wallpaper:

Spoiler :
http://i.imgur.com/3LHtV.jpg
 
Just about any mention of Quarians I've seen throughout the years and personal conceptions is that they look like Humans except with less fingers and toes. :confused: Wasn't really expecting something special.
 
Just about any mention of
Spoiler :
Quarians
I've seen throughout the years and personal conceptions is that they look like Humans except with less fingers and toes. :confused: Wasn't really expecting something special.

I wasn't expecting anything more than many other races in, say, Star Trek, either, but besides a few digits there's no difference between them and humans, and they don't have to deal with human actors playing the characters since they are completely virtual 3D models!
 
So I just beat it.

Spoiler :
The ending is basically the same as Battlestar Galactica's, with your own Illusive Man as Gaius Baltar. Extremely meh. But everything leading up the ending sequence was pretty good.
 
So I just beat it.

Spoiler :
The ending is basically the same as Battlestar Galactica's, with your own Illusive Man as Gaius Baltar. Extremely meh. But everything leading up the ending sequence was pretty good.

Is it true if you replay the game you can get an extra ending?
 
Is it true if you replay the game you can get an extra ending?

I'll find out soon enough.

Also, can somebody explain the effect that the War Assets have? My bar was about 80% full -- skipping most of the fetch sidequests, but getting the optimal ending in all of the main quests -- and I never really found out how it changed the final missions.
 
Afaik the War Assets affect the Galactic Readiness or whatever it is called. Doing them increases it but only to a point, you have to do various side quests related to them (or something, possibly those fetch quests you mentioned) and/or play multiplayer missions in those War Asset zones to further raise the readiness bar.
 
Yes, I'm aware. I'm asking what affect the bar has on the storyline.
 

Link to video.

Not to bash Bioware for being lazy but I find it hilarious.
 
Yeah I noticed that in the demo, I assumed it was just left in there because it was an old build and a demo with a size limit. Apparently not...

Yes, I'm aware. I'm asking what affect the bar has on the storyline.

If you don't have the bar high enough you won't get the better endings and you will lose a lot of characters and possibly even Shepherd.
 
Just finished the game. My (non-spoilerish) opinion :

The bad :

- The endings suck something huge. Really. I'd say 90 % of the "campaign discussions" in the Bioware forum is about how bad they are, and I agree. They are the new level of pathetically bad in a big franchise, and I'm pretty sure it's an achievement that will stand.

- The whole scam about Origin, forced multiplayer shoehorned in the game where it's absolutely not its place, day-1 DLC made of content which has been ripped from the original game to be sold separately (and Bioware outright LYING about it and saying it's been done after the game was finished, don't buy this crap, there is ample proofs that it wasn't the case, from leaked scripts from when the game was in development and already including the DLC's content, to much of the DLC content being actually on the CD even if you don't have bought and downloaded it), some art being shamefully ripped from images on the Net (by the same people crusading against piracy...) and, in general, grab for money at the expense of creator's integrity.
Regardless of the quality of the game, Bioware's actions have been a shame and they have lost all credibility in my eyes.

- The overall plot is bad, they used misplaced creativity when they should have gone for something classic, they used the usual stock deus ex machina when they should have used originality.

- Dialogues are neutered. Most of it is on autoplay, where Shepard just follows the script without your input, and sometimes against what you would have liked to say. There is only paragon/renegade answer, with no "neutral" ones, and most of the time it only changes the tone of the answer, not the actual answers.

- As a whole, the game feels too much like a movie and not enough like a game. The game is very linear, much more than the previous ones. There is a tons of AWFULLY long (and often unskippable...) cinematics where you can only interact once or twice. It's often extremely annoying. Samely, you often want to scream at the game "LET ME SAVE DAMNIT", as you regain control of your character only to directly enter a fight, to lose again the control for a cinematic just after this fight. Yes there is autosave, but in fact the game rely FAR too much on them.

- Previous choices in the serie don't seem to amount for much (but that's maybe just a feeling), and feel largely just change a few dialogues lines while the same situation is presented again, re-asking you to make the same choice.

- The "neverending waves" gameplay of DA2 is alive and kicking. Many missions are VERY tedious because of this.

- There is FAR too much fights against Cerberus. Seriously, they feel more powerful than entire Council races.

- The endings suck hard. Yeah, it deserves to be said twice. Or more.



The good :

- There is crapload of superb emotional moments in the game, especially if you take the "non-optimal renegade" options. Seriously, you can feel the anguish and self-loathing of Shepard when he makes some ugly choices that he feels are necessary.
To illustrate (rather big spoilers here) :
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Chosing to sabotage the cure, hence killing Mordin. Chosing to let the Quarian destroy the Geth, hence killing Legion. Made me cry, seriously.

This is probably the best part of the game. F-ing great.

- The "galaxy at war" feeling is very well done. War Assets are a fun mechanic that make you feel every action matters.

- The FPS gameplay is more refined and more interesting than the previous iterations (which is nice, because there is really a crapload of fight in the game, far too much in my opinion). The challenge is good on hardcore.

- The good side of being too much like a movie and Shepard answering on his own, is that there is a strong narrative flow, and there is some awesome "broken hero" moment. Shepard really gets some depth here (just too bad not enough of it is due to the player's decisions).

- The overall plot is crap, BUT the mini-plots are very nice. Missions are varied and interesting and fitting well in the world.

- There is LOTS of dialogues from the companions, between themselves and during the missions. It makes the game feel more alive. Samely, the fact that the companions move from place to place is a nice idea that, again, makes it all feel more alive.


All in all, I'd say the game is somewhat disappointing, but somewhat great. There is a world of unexploited potential, which is an utter shame, but there is some golden moments.
"Hit or miss" is how I would define the game, as I don't know if I must bless them for the good parts, or curse them for ruining them with the bad ones.
 
I've been playing through with my friend's copy (good friend, isn't worried about me stealing his Origin account) and I more or less agree with Akka's post above. The game is like a piece of delicious swiss cheese, except the holes are filled with garbage. For all of the great parts of the game (and there are many) there are details that are pretty terrible. Some of the graphics (particularly in the background, but also hands and ears) are bad even for an xbox 360 game. There are NO graphics options on the PC (unless you edit the files, I guess).

Some of the missions do feel nice and long, Jack's new look is amazing although you can't have her in your party again :( James McMuscles Vega isn't as bad as I expected, but he isn't that amazing either and your pilot, Cortez, is kind of emo (or at least, he has barely talked about anything except his dead husband, if he had a lot more dialogue that wouldn't be so bad).

Diana Allers (a fictional reporter you can bring along on the Normandy who doesn't really do much at all or contribute anything meaningful and is played by Jessica Chobot or whatever her name is from IGN) is worse than Jar Jar albeit for different reasons. Her voice acting is absolutely terrible, it is flat, unenthusiastic and annoying. The upper part of her dress is some weird sports-bra-shirt-thing that really just looks odd, and her face looks like she just had her wisdom teeth pulled. She is also romance-able, apparently, though I have no idea why. The ONLY reason I haven't spaced her out the airlock is because the game doesn't give me the option, also she contributes a tiny bit (like a bit for joining you and then +5 for the Krogan after Tuchanka) to the war readiness/strength stuff). Basically useless and a way for Chobot to pretend to be a real journalist to promote her career as a fake journalist.

Also as Akka mentions the DLC character is already in the game files and can be unlocked when changing one little line. The NPC is pretty neat to have with you though, especially since for the first like 1/3rd of the game you only have 4 other companions. However, he doesn't really add all that much considering he is a Prothean. EDIT: This unlocks Javik for use in the game except that he doesn't appear on the Normandy and his recruitment mission isn't available. However, you can just watch that stuff on YouTube as it really is not worth $10.

EDIT2: Javik gets increasingly unlikeable.

Link to video.


I will buy my own copy of it when it is on sale at some point, probably on GamersGate, and it is worth playing if you are enjoyed the first two games, but it isn't worth full price and is looking like one of the last games from Bioware I am going to buy. It is a mixture of the potential greatness of the series, some improvements and leaves me wanting more of the universe in a good way, but it is still flawed and Bioware is definitely flawed.

EDIT: Example of awesome dialogue (minor spoiler)
Spoiler :
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EDIT2: Javik gets increasingly unlikeable.

Link to video.

Capitalists...being capitalists? What in the world?!:run:

For what's it worth, having read the spoilers I did not have much of a problem with the ending...it astounds me how videogame fans manage to work themselves into a tizzy every time an anticipated game comes out.
 
I've been playing all weekend and so far I'm loving it.
I hate James less than I would have expected. Still still don't like the character design with all the absurd muscles, the tattoos and the stupid haircut, but I like his dialogue (save for teh gratuitous spanish).
I've just finished the mission on Ranoch, and my bgigest complaint so far is the party roster. The really new ones are OK but not as good as some of the ME2 characters were and Liara is the only biotic on my ship. I really hope more people will be joining, but I doubt it.

As for Bioware, I was sceptical about ME3 after they dishonored themselves with Dragon Age 2 but my worries were unfounded. The only thing that really leaves a sour taste is day one DLC and it really made me not want to give them my money now, and instead wait for some ME 3 complete edition. I bought the game anyway to complete the trilogy, but I think it will take some time before I buy a Bioware game again for full price.
 
If Akka and Maniacal even half like it, that must mean ME3 is truly a masterpiece. You guys could write a 300 page dissertation on the flaws of Godfather II, jesus christ.
 
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