Mass Effect [Game Thread - Concluded]

[Autolycus]

Help them Obi-Wan Kenobi, we're their only hope!! Sorry, got my space epics mixed up .
I'll decide who to lynch later.

 

[Frozen In Ice]

I'm not sure what to make of the killings last night. It seems likely that ATPG had one of them vigilante killed, but there's no way all 3 are vigilante kills, so ATPG isn't responsible for all of them unless he is the Mafia. Based on the lack of a counterclaim it seems likely ATPG is Commander Shepard so the question becomes this: would Zack make a game where Commander Shepard was actually scum? Maybe.

But I find it easier to believe ATPG is a loose cannon but probably not the Mafia. I do want to know why Edse was so loyal to ATPG before he publicly claimed to be Shepard. If I get a satisfying explanation on that are probably switch to someone else.

 

[Yaropolk]

A Fat Ghost:I goaded ATPG to back up his claim by killing me, and he did. Turns out those Big Boy Pants were just pants for a big boy, but that doesn't matter. I was a plain vanilla townie and hopefully this gave the town some info. With 3 kills last night I think that proves that ATPG is not mafia. I don't know if he's Shepard, but he is either a Vig or controls a Vig.

If we go back to the last vote, we'll see it ran over the deadline:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=13224027&postcount=256

The final tally was done in this post (retroactively)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=13223420&postcount=247

The top contenders were:
Red Spy - 5 votes
ATPG, Edse, and Mat93 all tied with 3 votes.

We had two last second voters: Mat93 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=13223675&postcount=252) and mechaerik (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=13223782&postcount=253)

They both tried to bandwagon Edse to get him up to a tie for first, in the process saving ATPG and Mat93. If we believe ATPG is Shepard, that leaves Mat93 as scum and mechaerik as his partner. Lynch one of them and put the other in 2nd place.

If Mat93 turns up as scum, then think hard about Jarema for tonight's vig or tomorrow's lynch. His role smells fishy and he announced he would be targeting Mat93 tonight for damage enhancement (knowing he would not be targeted by mafia).

 

[mechaerik]

They both tried to bandwagon Edse to get him up to a tie for first, in the process saving ATPG and Mat93. If we believe ATPG is Shepard, that leaves Mat93 as scum and mechaerik as his partner. Lynch one of them and put the other in 2nd place.

I'll be honest I don't think I actually noticed Mat's vote because I distinctly remember thinking I had the tiebreaker vote on second place and going with edse because he seemed the most scummy at the time.

 

[edse]

And it would probably been a too risky move for the mafia only to save ~15 shield damage.

 

[Mat93]

They both tried to bandwagon Edse to get him up to a tie for first, in the process saving ATPG and Mat93.

No, I voted for the person I found most scummy at the time (ignoring Jarrema because of his claim, and it being checked out tonight), who aside from Jarrema I still find most scummy.


I also agreed to have Jarrema make me take triple damage in the night...just the perfect thing to prevent me taking any damage at all from both the lynch and at night...oh wait.


Also I don't see why you are pairing me and ATPG as a likely scum team...edse has been very loyally protecting him, bar outright saying he believes ATPG is townie theres not that much more he could of done to stop ATPG getting votes, whereas I have been somewhat against them both. WIFOM maybe, but the only logic I can see is us trying to distance ourselves in the event of one of us being lynched. Which you could say about anyone who voted or argued against him. So I'm completely lost there.

 

[Mat93]

I must repeat, why are you the Herald of Pizzaguy?

Also I would very much like edse to shed some light on this, as since Jarrema has a relatively legit claim for why I got no result PM (and could well be tested on his other ability, although it does add up with ATPG having his shields reduced, or whatever it was exactly), he is probably my top suspect atm.


Actually thinking more about that, Jarrema couldn't know for sure I wouldn't be attacked, even if scum, so he would of had to target me, and with ATPGs claim yesterday that adds up with Jarrema's ability, I'm starting to think Jarrema is legit. I wouldn't say its a town ability, nor does it remove Visors gut feeling on him, but it is something.


So, based on that, edse, why are you continually supporting ATPG and defending him constantly?

 

[edse]

So, based on that, edse, why are you continually supporting ATPG and defending him constantly?

Because I don't think he's mafia? Besides, you are all exaggerating the support I shown for Pizza.

COuld everyone please stop voting for me. There is a way to prove my innocence but it would expose one of the most important townies in the game so I don't want to do it.

Jarema's blast power doesn't seem very likely since it appears everyone is able to kill in one punch. There isn't really any point in recieving 600 damage instead of 200.

 

[Daird]

I agree with edse. Jarrema, your statements keep failing to add up.
I say we help
Virmire next. I can't wait to see what Zach does for my all-time favorite gaming mission.

 

[Jarrema]

As an attempt to save myself (because I do not want the town to lose power role) I will reveal my name...
My name is Kaidan Alenko. In addition to the two abilities I described, I can also drain some health from other character. All my abilites take some time to recharge. If I survive, I can drain someone on incoming night (small damage), and later I will have ability to use my other abilities once more

 

[spaceman98]

Because I don't think he's mafia? Besides, you are all exaggerating the support I shown for Pizza.

And you have been sure of this since day 1. Every post you have made has been filled with love for Pizza, from your very first one, up to yesterday and today.

COuld everyone please stop voting for me. There is a way to prove my innocence but it would expose one of the most important townies in the game so I don't want to do it.

"Stop voting for me, so I don't have to defend myself!" Anyone could make this claim, and given that your claim relies on their being a mason group of Commander Shepard, a vigilante and you, in a game where private communication is forbidden, your claim is very dubious. Zack wouldn't make such a massive concentration of power roles.

Jarema's blast power doesn't seem very likely since it appears everyone is able to kill in one punch. There isn't really any point in recieving 600 damage instead of 200.
This is clearly not the case. Choxorn survived on day 1, and we don't know what the mafia's stats are.

Since pizza isn't getting lynched anyways, unvote: vote: edse

 

[spaceman98]

I agree with edse. Jarrema, your statements keep failing to add up.
I say we help
Virmire next. I can't wait to see what Zach does for my all-time favorite gaming mission.

Wait, where were we told to vote for planets? Its not mentioned in the update.

And help is the paragon option, not the renegade one.

 

[edse]

Stop voting for me, so I don't have to defend myself!" Anyone could make this claim, and given that your claim relies on their being a mason group of Commander Shepard, a vigilante and you, in a game where private communication is forbidden, your claim is very dubious. Zack wouldn't make such a massive concentration of power roles

I was blocked last night. I advise the blocker to not come forward though, I'm just a marine and the block is the best way to find mafia atm.

Chodorn was a power role, so I guess they have higher shield/health. Jarrema's power could only work for the town if he and the vig targets a mafia at the same time and the vig's attack wouldn't be enough to kill the mafia by itself.

 

[edse]

And regarding "private communication is forbidden"

Private communication between players is NOT allowed, unless I specifically say otherwise.

Which makes it very likely that there is such case.

 

[edse]

And you have been sure of this since day 1. Every post you have made has been filled with love for Pizza, from your very first one, up to yesterday and today.

After looking through my posts. Until yesterday I had made three posts connected to Pizza, two on the first day supporting his idea of going full paragon and one remark when someone said that Pizza and I were the worst players or something. After Pizza did whatever he did at the beginning of yesterday I supported him in one post and have since then only defended myself against these silly accusations.

 

[Mat93]

I was blocked last night. I advise the blocker to not come forward though, I'm just a marine and the block is the best way to find mafia atm.

That doesn't actually prove anything. Nearly every game has 1 person performing the kill for the scum team, and the others either using other abilities or doing nothing.

Just because you were blocked (assuming you were), doesn't prove your a marine/not scum. Just proves you did nothing last night.



Also tbh I expect this post to be a scum trying to get a blocker to come out and say you weren't blocked last night, to give the scum an easy target. I could be wrong, but with your responses to being in a near lynch position, I'm very happy to risk being wrong and killing a marine worst case.

 

[Mat93]

X-post with last of edses three before mine.

Then you'll die azzaman333.

That post is the one that sticks out to me as you supporting ATPG. He said he wasn't changing his vote after ATPG did something, and then you go to lynch him (wouldn't of happened, but still clear intent to prevent ATPG being lynched).



Also the private communication can happen, yeah, but mason group with the commander and a vig? The only way I see Zack ever doing that is with a scum member in that room too, otherwise its just a premade townie network base.

 

[Frozen In Ice]

I say we press on.

 

[Kennigit]

Also the private communication can happen, yeah, but mason group with the commander and a vig? The only way I see Zack ever doing that is with a scum member in that room too, otherwise its just a premade townie network base.

a commander in name only is worth less than a townie with an ability

who cares if ATPG is commander shepard if it doesn't bring an ability with it. Commanding around a vig partner to slaughter townies n1 and n3 doesnt help.

 

[Yaropolk]

A Fat Ghost: Methinks the lady doth protest too much. I'll be over here haunting your pantry and getting ready to watch "Scum and Scummer" starring Mat93 and mechaerik.