[MoO] Master of Orion 2 unofficial patch

[Yee]

That did it! Thanks for your help. Still pretty new at this.

Understood on the extract.cfg and user.cfg.

 

[MegaZAC]

You need to start it in advance, not necessarily at the start of a game, but from the point that you want to save your saves

I tried this batch. It does create copies, but the game cannot see them unless they will be manually renamed. What I do wrongly?

 

[Rocco.40]

nothing wrong, you indeed need to manually rename if you want to play such save.

 

[MegaZAC]

nothing wrong, you indeed need to manually rename if you want to play such save.

Having BSOD every time while switching application makes manual renaming painful

I have crash every end of turn from this save. However, I can normally play new game. What is wrong here?

 

[Rocco.40]

Having BSOD every time while switching application makes manual renaming painful

I have crash every end of turn from this save. However, I can normally play new game. What is wrong here?

1. That sounds painful indeed. Salvation lies in using DOSBox.
2. I have played your save for a couple of turns and i get no crash from it. Noticed it's an ice game and it's pretty late game (>300). Do you get crashes more often in late games?

 

[MegaZAC]

1. That sounds painful indeed. Salvation lies in using DOSBox.
2. I have played your save for a couple of turns and i get no crash from it. Noticed it's an ice game and it's pretty late game (>300). Do you get crashes more often in late games?

It was the first time I survived that long, so have no idea about often crashes. From this save I have crash just from the first turn. I actually cannot continue playing from it. Is there any logs from where I could understand what is wrong? Perhaps some rare file is missing.

 

[Rocco.40]

It was the first time I survived that long, so have no idea about often crashes. From this save I have crash just from the first turn. I actually cannot continue playing from it. Is there any logs from where I could understand what is wrong? Perhaps some rare file is missing.

You can take a look in orion2.log, and share here if you see anything out of the ordinary.

 

[MegaZAC]

You can take a look in orion2.log, and share here if you see anything out of the ordinary.

It has nothing regarding crash with my save.
I did complete reinstallation, started new game, and soon got another crash. This time there was a message on the screen copied to log.

An unexpected error occured, MoO2 version 1.50.8 will now terminate.
MoO2 internal error:
GAME.LBX [entry 29] exceeds number of LBX entries

If you think this is a bug consider reporting it to the patch authors,
see README_150.TXT for the appropriate links.

[21:04:26.011] terminated.

 

[Rocco.40]

sounds like something went wrong with installing a game.
you have to make sure that all game files are in your game folder and are of most recent version.
game.lbx latest version is from the 1.31 patch.
thus-
1. install a game to your moo2 game folder of choice
2. copy all files from origin of installation to that game folder
3. patch to 1.31 (after copying files from origin)
4. install 1.50 patch
hope this helps...

 

[Rocco.40]

Having BSOD every time while switching application makes manual renaming painful

I have crash every end of turn from this save. However, I can normally play new game. What is wrong here?

ok, we did find that playing this save without dosbox indeed crashes it right away.
with dosbox the game can be played, but depending on scenario it can cause (graphical) problems later on.
tbc....

 

[Depth386]

I'm having an unfortunate problem with this patch.
My game is freezing when I click the Turn Button. The animation of any black holes on the galaxy screen stops, and after a few seconds, the music stops too.
Nothing unusual in Orion2.log but I am including the last several entries just in case.
I am a modder so I tried launching with different .cfg files such as 1.50 Standard and Classic just in case some of my parameters were problematic.
Unfortunately the problem persists regardless so the issue is likely contained inside the Save10.gam file.

Here is a link to my save game file.
https://www.mediafire.com/?8h1c8169vqa04po

Below is a code box with my recent Orion2.log stuff

[21:44:25.004] starting C:\ORION150.EXE, version 1.50.8
loading config ORION2.CFG
loading config 150\language\en\en.CFG
loading config 150\ENABLE.CFG
loaded mod Depth386
loaded mod MAP_D386_v1.01
loaded mod USER
config loaded in 610ms
config extracted to EXTRACT.CFG
[21:45:15.002] starting C:\ORION150.EXE, version 1.50.8
loading config ORION2.CFG
loading config 150\language\en\en.CFG
loading config 150\ENABLE.CFG
loaded mod Depth386
loaded mod MAP_D386_v1.01
loaded mod USER
config loaded in 550ms
config extracted to EXTRACT.CFG
[24:00:32.029] exiting normally, bye!
[08:13:42.001] starting C:\ORION150.EXE, version 1.50.8
loading config ORION2.CFG
loading config 150\language\en\en.CFG
loading config 150\ENABLE.CFG
loaded mod Depth386
loaded mod MAP_D386_v1.01
loaded mod USER
config loaded in 490ms
config extracted to EXTRACT.CFG
loaded version 2 save file (created in 1.50.8.0)
[09:41:47.079] exiting normally, bye!
[22:31:17.002] starting C:\ORION150.EXE, version 1.50.8
loading config ORION2.CFG
loading config 150\language\en\en.CFG
loading config 150\ENABLE.CFG
loaded mod Depth386
loaded mod MAP_D386_v1.01
loaded mod USER
config loaded in 1930ms
config extracted to EXTRACT.CFG
loaded version 2 save file (created in 1.50.8.0)
[24:24:22.072] exiting normally, bye!
[22:58:27.000] starting C:\ORION150.EXE, version 1.50.8
loading config ORION2.CFG
loading config 150\language\en\en.CFG
loading config 150\ENABLE.CFG
loaded mod Depth386
loaded mod MAP_D386_v1.01
loaded mod USER
config loaded in 440ms
config extracted to EXTRACT.CFG
loaded version 2 save file (created in 1.50.8.0)
[24:54:01.071] exiting normally, bye!
[10:34:28.000] starting C:\ORION150.EXE, version 1.50.8
loading config ORION2.CFG
loading config 150\language\en\en.CFG
loading config 150\ENABLE.CFG
loaded mod Depth386
loaded mod MAP_D386_v1.01
loaded mod USER
config loaded in 500ms
config extracted to EXTRACT.CFG
loaded version 2 save file (created in 1.50.8.0)
[11:07:24.051] exiting normally, bye!
[14:17:06.001] starting C:\ORION150.EXE, version 1.50.8
loading config ORION2.CFG
loading config 150\language\en\en.CFG
loading config 150\ENABLE.CFG
loaded mod Depth386
loaded mod MAP_D386_v1.01
loaded mod USER
config loaded in 430ms
config extracted to EXTRACT.CFG
loaded version 2 save file (created in 1.50.8.0)
[15:26:16.020] exiting normally, bye!
[01:22:56.005] starting C:\ORION150.EXE, version 1.50.8
loading config ORION2.CFG
loading config 150\language\en\en.CFG
loading config 150\ENABLE.CFG
loaded mod Depth386
loaded mod MAP_D386_v1.01
loaded mod USER
config loaded in 1260ms
config extracted to EXTRACT.CFG
[02:33:42.008] exiting normally, bye!
[11:29:19.004] starting C:\ORION150.EXE, version 1.50.8
loading config ORION2.CFG
loading config 150\language\en\en.CFG
loading config 150\ENABLE.CFG
loaded mod Depth386
loaded mod MAP_D386_v1.01
loaded mod USER
config loaded in 660ms
config extracted to EXTRACT.CFG
[12:22:34.002] starting C:\ORION150.EXE, version 1.50.8
loading config ORION2.CFG
loading config 150\language\en\en.CFG
loading config 150\ENABLE.CFG
loaded mod Depth386
loaded mod MAP_D386_v1.01
loaded mod USER
config loaded in 930ms
config extracted to EXTRACT.CFG
[16:19:50.001] starting C:\ORION150.EXE, version 1.50.8
loading config ORION2.CFG
loading config 150\language\en\en.CFG
loading config 150\ENABLE.CFG
loaded mod Depth386
loaded mod MAP_D386_v1.01
loaded mod USER
config loaded in 490ms
config extracted to EXTRACT.CFG
[06:47:05.004] starting C:\ORION150.EXE, version 1.50.8
loading config ORION2.CFG
loading config 150\language\en\en.CFG
loading config 150\ENABLE.CFG
loaded mod Depth386
loaded mod MAP_D386_v1.01
loaded mod USER
config loaded in 500ms
config extracted to EXTRACT.CFG
[06:47:34.004] starting C:\ORION150.EXE, version 1.50.8
loading config ORION2.CFG
loading config 150\language\en\en.CFG
loading config 150\ENABLE.CFG
loaded mod 0_SET150i
loaded mod MAP1_150
loaded mod ANT_L1
loaded mod USER
config loaded in 1040ms
config extracted to EXTRACT.CFG
[06:49:11.004] starting C:\ORION150.EXE, version 1.50.8
loading config ORION2.CFG
loading config 150\language\en\en.CFG
loading config 150\ENABLE.CFG
loaded mod 0_SET140
loaded mod MAP0_140
loaded mod ANT_L0
loaded mod USER
config loaded in 380ms
config extracted to EXTRACT.CFG
[07:44:25.004] starting C:\ORION150.EXE, version 1.50.8
loading config ORION2.CFG
loading config 150\language\en\en.CFG
loading config 150\ENABLE.CFG
loaded mod Depth386
loaded mod MAP_D386_v1.01
loaded mod USER
config loaded in 490ms
config extracted to EXTRACT.CFG

 

[Rocco.40]

I'm having an unfortunate problem with this patch.
My game is freezing when I click the Turn Button. The animation of any black holes on the galaxy screen stops, and after a few seconds, the music stops too.
Nothing unusual in Orion2.log but I am including the last several entries just in case.
I am a modder so I tried launching with different .cfg files such as 1.50 Standard and Classic just in case some of my parameters were problematic.
Unfortunately the problem persists regardless so the issue is likely contained inside the Save10.gam file.

Hi, thanks for the report. I played your save and did not find an issue on my installation.
Noticed that there is a surrender event tho after clicking turn (Klackon surrender to Trilarian).
Can you also upload your EXTRACT.CFG that you have after the game crashed? Tx...

 

[Depth386]

Many thanks for your reply

My Extract.cfg did not want to fit nicely in a Code Box so here is a link:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/00y8wifwjg32e3d/EXTRACT.CFG

It's largely Ice Mod copied in terms of format/syntax, but a lot of stuff is edited.

 

[Alex/150]

My game is freezing when I click the Turn Button. The animation of any black holes on the galaxy screen stops, and after a few seconds, the music stops too.

I can't reproduce the freeze either, tried both your config and classic.

1. Can you retry with the clean install? (i.e. rename current game dir, reinstall orion, reinstall patch, load the save and check if it still freezes) This is to rule out damaged lbxs.

2. Also the following info might help:
- your OS version and bitness
- MOO2 distro (steam/gog/original cd)
- dosbox version
- did you edit 150/dosbox-base.conf?
- did you overwrite/edit any lbxs?

 

[Depth386]

Oh pooh I feel so stupid, sorry guys.
Yes I did overwrite the file Shipname.lbx
And surprise surprise switching back to the old one fixes it.
Even back in 1.31 I did have one time my ship names caused issues... I was just trying to make things a little more thematic. In particular the various numbered names like Bulrathi Battleship being "Wolf I" "Wolf II" "Wolf III" etc. up to VIII really bothered me. So I created my own ship name list just for the sake of immersion.

So this issue is resolved upon me realizing my own stupidity but in case you're curious about the issue:
I am running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
I bought Moo2 on Steam just to support but I had an old Moo2 folder somewhere and I think I used that so it would presumably be original 1.31
DosBox version is 0.74
I did not edit the .conf
I did overwrite shipname.lbx because as far as I could tell it isn't supported any other way, and that was my problem.

It's unfortunate that Moo2 doesn't seem to like having those strings changed lol
In case you are curious here is a .xls spreadsheet I made, and then I edited the .lbx after. It was quite a little project of mine, for example with Alkari i literally went on Wikipedia for a list of types of birds for most of the names, Bulrathi = wiki list of types of bears, etc... I allowed myself some creative humor in the doomstar category.
https://www.mediafire.com/?gt2xzof27oy6d77 Moo2 ship names .xls
https://www.mediafire.com/?7dpnw92ah7unu79 shipname.lbx

 

[Rocco.40]

Yes I did overwrite the file Shipname.lbx
And surprise surprise switching back to the old one fixes it.
Even back in 1.31 I did have one time my ship names caused issues... I was just trying to make things a little more thematic. In particular the various numbered names like Bulrathi Battleship being "Wolf I" "Wolf II" "Wolf III" etc. up to VIII really bothered me. So I created my own ship name list just for the sake of immersion.

If you use the MOO2 Workshop or a HEX editor to edit such files, you should be fine.
If you edit the LBX directly with a text editor, you are in trouble.

edit: note that shipnames can be max. 15 characters long.

 

[Alex/150]

"Financial Survey", "Market Liquidity", "Sabretooth Tigre" and "Hammerhead Shark" are all 1 character too long. From file structure it might seem that the limit is 16 but 16th character has to be null. Otherwise your lbx looks fine. Also an interesting take on ship naming, i should try to play like this sometime.

 

[Depth386]

Thank you so much for your advice Rocco.40 and Alex/150.
I have disabled my old shipname.lbx mediafire link.
I made changes:
-revised the 16 character names
-fixed a few errors where there would be a name, some null, a random character, then more null.

Here is a new shipname.lbx :
https://www.mediafire.com/?dhuqqirp7k8nmqu
Disclaimer: I haven't play tested with this shipname.lbx much yet, I won't have time for a while. If there are any more problems I'll be sure to report it and upload any further revisions of shipname.lbx I make

I'm honored that you like the idea of more immersive (perhaps cheesy) ship names

I considered doing Starname.lbx too but I find it very difficult to decide on a theme. The old greek letter followed by constellation or region is one way, then there are all kinds of ancient biblical and arab star names, but the arab ones you end up with half your library starting with "Al" so its always like "Al Something" and that feels somewhat lacking in diversity. And with some other famous real names, Wolf359 or Bayern's Star could easily end up on the opposite end of the galaxy from the humans.

Stock moo2 starname.lbx kind of draws on some of these naming conventions, but it also leaves something to be desired at times.

 

[Colon]

Just to be sure: are planet max populations in 1.50 improved those of the original game, except of tiny?

Great job with the launcher. It's amazing what you're doing with the game.

 

[Rocco.40]

Just to be sure: are planet max populations in 1.50 improved those of the original game, except of tiny?

In the classic game (classic or 150 standard modes) the max population of tiny planets with ocean/ tundra/ desert/ barren/ radiated/ toxic climates is just 1.
This 1maxpop makes tiny planets quite unattractive, so in 150 improved this has been increased to 2maxpop.
Now these planets have at least some growth and become more valuable.
As a consequence tiny gaia became 6 (5), terran 5 (4) and arid 4 (3), while swamp is unchanged at 2.
There is also some effects for tolerant, aquatic and subterranean races.
The precise effects can be analyzed using the Pop. Calculator in the file Manual_150.xls, if you wish.
The popmaxes of small, medium, large and huge planets are unchanged in 150 improved.
I have actually considered making more changes to popmaxes for 150 improved, similar to what was done for the icemod, but decided not too stray to far into modding territory for 150i.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for feedback!