Middle East thread

Learn to read between the lines. Rubio's statement implies that it is not the Syrian state itself carrying out these massacres. It's not really much of a condemnation.
You have a source for your interpretation? Because your "source" likely is your ignorance of the jihadists in power now in Syria being indeed "foreign".
Likely I shouldn't even bother, but if you "read the lines" (not even between, let's not push our luck) you will in time pick that the victims were only named by Rubio as those on one side of this (eg christians and alawites).
 
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You have a source for your interpretation? Because your "source" likely is your ignorance of the jihadists in power now in Syria being indeed "foreign".
Likely I shouldn't even bother, but if you "read the lines" (not even between, let's not push our luck) you will in time pick that the victims were only named by Rubio as those on one side of this (eg christians and alawites).
And what is your "source" for your "interpretation"? Rubio's words are his words and your opinion of them is just your opinion of them.
 
You have a source for your interpretation? Because your "source" likely is your ignorance of the jihadists in power now in Syria being indeed "foreign".
Likely I shouldn't even bother, but if you "read the lines" (not even between, let's not push our luck) you will in time pick that the victims were only named by Rubio as those on one side of this (eg christians and alawites).

The word "foreign" has nothing to do with my interpretation at all, rather it is the last sentence where Rubio says "Syria's interim authorities must hold the perpetrators accountable", which implies that the perpetrators and Syria's interim authorities are two different entities.
 
interim as they are promising to replace them , to keep neighbours around . And you can really tell people that they are responsible with this exact sentence .
 
We played no part at all in the toppling of Sadam, he was considered a useful idiot here, we were in the first war that left him in place.

Take your complaints to the US, to Crezth for example :D

Luckily the internet never forgets :




To the point - several people asked to be very specific about what we consider a "ME mentality" - I spelled it out above, any comment on that ?
Is Belgium a member of NATO or not? Thanks for your support, friendo. Everything we do we have done together to keep our imports cheap and our consumer goods cheaper. We are eating out of the same trough. Belgium is as responsible as Minnesota or Idaho, and moreso because Minnesota and Idaho have to go through the federal government before they can influence the alliance’s policies. At the end of the day we destroyed Iraq and y’all didn’t disagree enough to stop getting our backs in the alliance. End of the day anyone who really tried to punish us for that would get a Belgian bayonet in their face same as German, French, or British.
 
Rumsfeld from the link:

The US is threatening to suspend its financial support for a new €400m (£280m) building for Nato. "It would obviously not be easy for US officials ... to come to Belgium," Mr Rumsfeld said. "It would not make much sense to build a new headquarters if they can't come here for meetings."

He refused to say whether the US wanted to see the headquarters moved from Brussels, but added: "It's perfectly possible to meet elsewhere."

Sounds just like Trump.
 
Yes, it is hard to understand why the NATO HQ is still here, as is SHAPE, Belgium has not been in the frontline in 50 years, nor has it been the most forthcoming of NATO allies, yet your HQ is still where Eisenhower left it.

We are very good at moving your stuff across Europe though, we don't leave your ships lying in the Channel for the Russians to sink like the Brits :


However, heavier military equipment, such as armoured vehicles, must be transferred to trains, and much of Belgium’s rail and road network is not designed to handle such large-scale transport.

Many bridges cannot support the weight of modern armoured vehicles, nor are they equipped with visible military weight classifications to facilitate planning, as was standard during the Cold War. These infrastructure gaps highlight the challenges Belgium and NATO allies face in ensuring efficient troop and equipment movements.
Other than that - I can only assume that your career officers like it here :)
 
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Moderator Action: time to get back to the Middle East?
 
New War Crime Targeting Cotton Gin in Zabid

In an act of brutality that exceeds all limits, US aircraft resumed their attacks on the cotton gin in Zabid district, Hodeida governorate, committing yet another war crime that reveals the true face of the American aggression on Yemen.

This attack demonstrates that Washington's goal is not just to kill directly but to destroy every means of livelihood in Yemen.

The cotton gin was not a military base or missile storage facility, but an economic facility that served hundreds of farmers and provided for the livelihoods of many families relying on cotton farming.

However, the United States, with its deep hatred and bloody record, targets the livelihoods of Yemenis in an attempt to economically strangle them after failing militarily.

Targeting vital civilian facilities is not new for this reckless enemy. Just days ago, American airstrikes targeted the nearly completed Al-Rasoul Al-Azam Hospital project in Saada, which was intended to treat cancer patients.

This highlights that Washington’s aggression goes beyond blocking food and medicine; it is attacking even the sick's right to life.

In Hodeida , the Hebshi Iron Factory was also hit, as well as the governmental complex in Al-Jawf and livestock farms, homes, and residences across several provinces.

This systematic, destructive war targets everything that is alive, showing no concern for the human suffering these attacks cause.

The repeated targeting of the cotton gin in Zabid reveals the scale of American political and military failure. What threat could piles of cotton and spinning machines pose to the White House? Or is the real goal to starve and humiliate Yemenis, forcing them into submission?

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Trump's threat to Iran that 'there will be bombing' comes amid new B-2 stealth bomber moves​

  • President Donald Trump threatened Iran with bombing like "they have never seen before" over the weekend.
  • His threat came amid the unusual deployment of B-2 stealth bombers to the Indian Ocean.
  • The bombers arrived amid a larger build-up of US military assets in the Middle East area.

President Donald Trump is threatening Iran with bombing to get to a new nuclear deal.

The threat comes as the US appears to be massing B-2 stealth bombers at a strategic base in the Indian Ocean that has been used to stage strikes in the Middle East.

"If they don't make a deal, there will be bombing," Trump told NBC News' Kristen Welker over the weekend, adding that "it will be bombing the likes of which they have never seen before."

Earlier this month, Trump gave Tehran a two-month deadline to agree to a new nuclear deal or face military action. On Sunday, Iran's President Masoud Pezeshkian rejected direct talks with the US, though he left the door open to indirect negotiations.

Trump withdrew from a landmark 2015 nuclear deal with Iran during his first term in office.

The president's threat comes as the US has been deploying B-2 Spirit bombers to Diego Garcia, a tiny British island in the Indian Ocean that has served as a joint UK-US military base for decades, in an unusual move. Open-source intelligence analysts began tracking the arrival of multiple aircraft over the past few days.

A spokesperson for Air Force Global Strike Command confirmed that there are B-2s at Diego Garcia, though they would not say how many. Recent satellite imagery indicated that as of last Tuesday, there were at least three of them there, but possibly more.


A B-2 Spirit takes off from Naval Support Facility Diego Garcia to support a Bomber Task Force mission in August 2020.

A B-2 Spirit bomber. US Air Force/Cover Images via Reuters Connect
"Their mission is to deter, detect, and, if necessary, defeat strategic attacks against the United States and its allies," the spokesperson told Business Insider on Monday without elaborating further.

The bombers could be there in relation to developments in the Middle East or Bomber Task Force missions. Either way, it's a lot of firepower readily available.

The B-2 Spirit is a long-range strategic bomber manufactured by Northrop Grumman. The Air Force has just 19 of these stealth aircraft in active service. Built for penetrating strikes against hard-to-reach targets, the bombers are based at Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri.

The roughly $2 billion B-2 is capable of delivering both nuclear and conventional strikes and is able to carry up to 40,000 pounds of ordnance, including the GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator. The MOP is a 30,000-pound bunker buster.

It's been speculated that an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities, which are largely underground in hardened bunkers, would require capabilities only that the B-2 can deliver.

The specific purpose of the B-2s on Diego Garcia is unclear, but they have the potential to serve as a show of force for Iran and its proxies. Last fall, the US sent a clear message to Tehran by sending B-2 bombers to strike hardened Houthi facilities. Iranian support for the Houthis has fueled the Red Sea crisis, which has heated up again lately.


A B-2 bomber against a solid gray sky.

A B-2 Spirit in the sky. US Air National Guard photo by Senior Master Sgt. Vincent De Groot
The Trump administration has pounded the Iran-backed rebels with airstrikes over the past two weeks in an effort to stop their attacks against military and civilian vessels in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden.

However, the Houthis demonstrated as recently as Sunday that they can still fire long-range missiles at Israel, which they continue to do in protest of the Gaza war.

The deployment of the B-2s noticeably comes amid a larger US military build-up in the Middle East. There have been rising tensions and threats between Trump's White House and Iran and the Tehran-backed Houthis.

On Saturday, the Idaho Air National Guard's 124th Fighter Wing announced the deployment of more than 300 Airmen and several A-10 Thunderbolt II attack aircraft to the Middle East area of operations. The unit has previously deployed in support of the US-led war against the Islamic State.

The Navy is also sending a second aircraft carrier to the region. USS Carl Vinson will join the USS Harry S. Truman and its strike group, which has been striking the Houthis for weeks. When it arrives, the Vinson would be the fifth US carrier to partake in combat operations against the rebels.
 

for the benefit of some people with firm convictions about the lsraeli right to self defence . Has no mention of of the pathetically small "bribes" of 18 millions and a later 50 millions . Refers to Netanyahu being "responsible" for the Hamas attack , does not refer to UAE , Qatar , Bahreyn in military exercises in Greece .
 

Syria condemns 'unjustified' Israeli strikes as tensions rise over Turkey​

Syria has strongly condemned a fresh wave of Israeli strikes on airbases and other military sites overnight as an "unjustified escalation".

The foreign ministry said the attacks almost destroyed Hama airbase and injured dozens of people. A monitoring group reported that four defence ministry personnel were killed.

Israel's military said it hit "capabilities that remained" at the western Hama and central T4 airbases, along with military infrastructure in Damascus. It also said Israeli forces killed gunmen during a ground operation in Deraa province, where authorities put the death toll at nine.

It came amid reports that Turkey was moving to station jets and air defences at Syrian airbases.

Israel's defence minister warned Syria's interim President Ahmed al-Sharaa on Thursday that he would "pay a very heavy price" if he allowed "forces hostile to Israel" to enter the country.

The Israeli military has carried out hundreds of strikes across Syria to destroy military assets - including jets, tanks, missiles, air defence systems, weapons factories and research centres - since former president Bashar al-Assad's regime was overthrown by rebel forces in December after 13 years of civil war.

The rebels were led by Sharaa's Islamist group Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) - a former al-Qaeda affiliate that is still designated as a terrorist organisation by the UN, the US, the EU and the UK.

Israel has also sent troops into the UN-monitored demilitarised buffer zone in the Golan Heights, as well as several adjoining areas and the summit of Mount Hermon.

And it has demanded the complete demilitarisation of the three neighbouring southern provinces of Deraa, Quneitra and Suweida, saying it would not accept the presence of the forces of Sharaa's government there.

The Syrian foreign ministry said Wednesday night's air strikes targeted "five locations across the country within 30 minutes, resulting in the near-total destruction of Hama Military Airport and injuring dozens of civilians and military personnel".

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) said there were at least 18 strikes which targeted planes, rail tracks and towers at Hama airbase.

Israel also hit T4 airbase, which is near Palmyra, and a branch of the Scientific Studies and Research Centre (SSRC) in the Barzeh neighbourhood of Damascus, it added.

"This unjustified escalation is a deliberate attempt to destabilise Syria and exacerbate the suffering of its people," the Syrian foreign ministry said.

It called the strikes "a blatant violation of international law and Syrian sovereignty", and urged the international community to "exert pressure on Israel to cease its aggression".

Syria may have been the location for these strikes, but the real target was Turkey.

Israel has been nervously eyeing a joint defence pact Turkey is negotiating with Syria's transitional government, and these latest air strikes come amid Turkish reports of military equipment being moved to Syrian airbases, including T4.

In a statement on Thursday morning, Israeli defence minister Israel Katz warned President Sharaa: "If you allow forces hostile to Israel to enter Syria and endanger Israeli security interests - you will pay a very heavy price."

"Yesterday's air force activity... is a clear message and a warning to the future - we will not allow the security of the State of Israel to be harmed."

Katz did not elaborate on what forces he considered "hostile", but foreign minister Gideon Saar separately said that Israel was concerned at the "negative role" that Turkey was playing in Syria.

"They are doing their utmost to have Syria as a Turkish protectorate. It's clear that is their intention," he told a news conference in Paris.

The SOHR also reported that Israeli ground forces shelled a national park west of the southern city of Deraa on Wednesday night, killing nine gunmen who attempted to confront them.

Prior to the shelling, dozens of Israeli military vehicles had entered the al-Jabaliya Dam area near Nawa and taken up positions there, prompting "calls from the mosques in the area [to wage] jihad against the Israeli incursion", it added.

Deraa province's government warned that the "massacre" of nine people had sparked widespread public anger. It has not so far identified those killed.

The Israeli military confirmed that its forces had operated in Deraa overnight, "seizing weapons and destroying terrorist infrastructure".

"Several armed men fired at our forces in the area. The forces responded with gunfire and eliminated several armed militants from the ground and air," it added.

The military said it would "not allow a military threat to exist in Syria".

However, Turkey's growing investment in Syria is seen by Israel as another level of threat.

The risk of regional confrontation is growing, and with it the risk of Syria once again becoming host to the conflicts of outside powers.
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Trump's threat to Iran that 'there will be bombing' comes amid new B-2 stealth bomber moves​

There was some news pictures recently about some Iranian guy touring one of the underground sites. You might note that none of the rockets were stored within their own vaults. You can be certain that one penetrating bomb would be more than enough to destroy one of those places in a single blast. I would not take Trump's threat lightly in this particular case.
 

Syria detains two leaders of Palestinian Islamic Jihad​

April 22 (Reuters) - Syrian authorities have detained two senior members of the Palestinian militant faction Islamic Jihad, which took part in the October 2023 attacks on Israel from Gaza, the group's armed wing and a Syrian official said on Tuesday.
In a statement, the Al Quds Brigades said Khaled Khaled, who heads Islamic Jihad's operations in Syria, and Yasser al-Zafari, who heads its organisational committee, had been in Syrian custody for five days.

The group said the men had been detained "without any explanation of the reasons" and "in a manner we would not have hoped to see from brothers", and called for their release.
An official from Syria's interior ministry confirmed the detentions, but did not respond to follow-up questions on why the pair had been arrested. A Palestinian source in Damascus also confirmed the arrests.
Islamic Jihad joined its ally Hamas, Gaza's ruling group, in the attack on Israel in 2023. It is a recipient of Iranian funding and know-how, and has long had foreign headquarters in Syria and Lebanon.
But its allies in both countries have recently suffered devastating blows: an Israeli air and ground offensive last year severely weakened the Lebanese Iranian-backed group Hezbollah, and Syria's leader Bashar al-Assad, closely allied to Tehran, was ousted by a rebel offensive last year.

The new Islamist leadership in Damascus has cut diplomatic ties with Iran and is hoping to rebuild Syria's regional and international backing, not least to eliminate sanctions and fund reconstruction after a brutal 14-year civil war.
The U.S. has given Syria a list of conditions to fulfill in exchange for partial sanctions relief, Reuters reported last month. Sources said one of the conditions was keeping Iran-backed Palestinian groups at a distance.
Israel has carried out strikes against Islamic Jihad in Syria for years. Last month, it said it struck a building on the outskirts of Damascus that it said Islamic Jihad was using as a command centre, an assertion denied by the group.
 

Iran’s exiled ‘crown prince’ calls for mass labor strikes to topple regime​

LONDON — Western governments should create a “strike fund” to support a wave of industrial action across Iran that will paralyze the state and hasten the end of the regime, according to the son of the country’s former leader.

Reza Pahlavi, whose father was the last shah of Iran and was ousted in the 1979 revolution, believes Donald Trump’s nuclear talks with Tehran will fail to deliver peace in the region. But he sees a chance for America and Europe to help the country’s grassroots opposition to overthrow its clerical rulers from within.

In recent years, anger at the regime’s repression and economic mismanagement have boiled over in unusually large public protests. Tehran’s standing across the Middle East has also been heavily dented by the fall of its ally Bashar al-Assad in Syria, and by Israel’s devastating strikes against Hamas and Hezbollah.
With Iran on the back foot, Pahlavi saw an opportunity for Western powers to intensify support for the regime’s opponents and potential defectors. In an interview with POLITICO, he called for cash to be released to help people engage in peaceful civil resistance, with a series of “organized labor strikes that could paralyze the system and force it to collapse.”

Such a “strike fund” could be drawn from frozen Iranian assets, he said. “Paralyzing the regime as a result of work stoppages and strikes — which is the least cost to the nation provided we can fund it — this is something that can happen in a matter of months.”

The specter of mass strikes is a potent one in the context of Iran’s revolutionary history.

Months of strikes — especially by oil workers — were critical in piling extreme pressure on the shah. After the revolution the Islamist regime suppressed the labor movement, but it has reemerged as a potential political factor, and Tehran was taken aback by the scale of action by petrochemical workers in 2021.

Pahlavi, 64, has been touring European capitals talking to government ministers and officials, as well as to private sector investors, to press the case for stepping up assistance for internal dissent. The other option, he fears, will be external action including potential military strikes from the United States or Israel.

“Diplomacy has been exhausted with no actual breakthrough, and at the same time, there’s a concern that if diplomacy fails are we talking about military action?” Pahlavi said. “What we propose is a third way — the best way to avoid having to resort to that scenario. Give the people of Iran a chance, let them be the agent of change, before we have to resort to other measures that are not wanted.”

Nuclear deadline​

His intervention comes at a critical moment, with the fate of Iran in the balance.

Trump has authorized direct talks between American and Iranian officials while threatening military action if Tehran does not scale back its nuclear program quickly enough.

At the same time Iran is widely blamed for stirring conflict across the Middle East and beyond, with its long-held policy of supporting Hamas and Hezbollah and supplying Vladimir Putin’s military with drones for attacks on Ukraine.

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Tehran’s standing across the Middle East has also been heavily dented by the fall of its ally Bashar al-Assad in Syria, and by Israel’s devastating strikes against Hamas and Hezbollah. | Morteza Nikoubazl/NurPhoto via Getty Images
Pahlavi regards Trump’s team as crucial allies who are clear about the threat posed by Tehran.

But he believes the United States-led talks on a nuclear deal are doomed. “This regime does not negotiate in good faith,” he said recently. “However well-intentioned, these nuclear talks will throw a lifeline to a crumbling dictatorship and prolong its export of terror and chaos.”

Time is running short. While Trump reportedly blocked Israel’s push for more military strikes against Iran, he set a deadline of mid-May for clear progress on nuclear talks.
Pahlavi believes Tehran will use the talks to play for time and that the West should focus instead on backing internal opposition.

Raiding Iran’s foreign-held assets frozen under international sanctions — worth an estimated $100 billion — could also finance a surge in technological supplies to enable the protesters, dissidents and potential defectors from the regime to communicate and organize among themselves, Pahlavi said.

More Starlink​

While the authorities in Iran have persecuted dissent online, Elon Musk’s Starlink terminals providing uncensored internet access are already operating after being smuggled into the country, often at great personal risk to those involved. In recent months the number of Starlink users has increased significantly, and that influx of communications technology needs to continue, Pahlavi said.

“Now there are means to load a particular app on your smartphone that directly links your phone to a satellite without even the need to access the terminals,” he said. Western help needs to focus on “flooding the market with these components — it’s a matter of scaling it and having enough of those smuggled in.”

Regime change has earned a bad name, thanks to the U.S.-led military interventions in Afghanistan and Iraq under President George W. Bush.

Pahlavi’s view is that many of those currently working under poor conditions for the Tehran regime will need to stay in place to help rebuild the country once the ayatollahs are ousted.
While he insisted he was “not interested in power or a post,” he said he would play a role as interim leader to establish a new democratic constitution. “I’m not here to run for office but I have a critical role to play as a person people call upon because they trust me,” he said. “Today’s generation sees that as an element that could be a broker, an agent of change, a leader of transition that can appeal well above the political divisions to a sentiment of national unity.”

Other voices​

Pahlavi still stirs skepticism among Iranians, even if he is promising to act solely as a facilitator of change, who will then step aside after seeking to unite the country’s highly splintered opposition camps.

While monarchist chants and symbols have popped up at demonstrations in Iran, other pro-democracy protesters have adopted the slogan that they want “neither a shah, nor a [supreme] leader.” Memories of the out-of-touch elites of the shah’s era and his feared SAVAK secret police run deep.

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Iran is widely blamed for stirring conflict across the Middle East and beyond, with its long-held policy of supporting Hamas and Hezbollah and supplying Vladimir Putin’s military with drones for attacks on Ukraine. | Morteza Nikoubazl/NurPhoto via Getty Images
Fundamentally, it is unclear whether any of Iran’s opposition abroad can prove a major force in overthrowing the regime, or whether more significant changes would be more likely to come from rivalries and fractures inside the current state apparatus.

Indeed, according to Sanam Vakil at the Chatham House think tank in London, there are big questions over whether the Iranian people are as close to ousting the regime as Pahlavi suggests. She argues that even if they are, he should not be thought of as the inevitable interim leader-in-waiting.

“His father was ousted for all sorts of reasons. Why are we going to put our money on the son that literally has done nothing in the 46 years since he left Iran?” she said. “It’s important to support Iranian agency. There are so many courageous visionaries inside the country and inside Evin Prison who are highly qualified but treated abhorrently by the Islamic Republic — many Nobel Prize winners, many human rights defenders. We should put money on them.”

For his part, Pahlavi insists he wants a new constitution with three pillars at its core: preserving Iran’s territorial integrity; creating a secular democracy separating religion from government; and enshrining “every principle of human rights,” including protection against discrimination on the grounds of sexuality, religion or ethnic background.

As soon as a referendum is held to ratify these new arrangements, he said, he would step back again. “That’s the end of my mission in life.”
 

Life inside Iraq's 'Forbidden Zone' controlled by Turkey​

Nestled in the mountains of Iraqi Kurdistan sits the picturesque village of Sergele.

For generations villagers have made a living growing pomegranates, almonds and peaches and foraging in the surrounding forests for wild fruits and spices.

But Sergele, located 16km (10 miles) from the border with Turkey, has become increasingly surrounded by Turkish military bases, which are dotted across the slopes.

One, perched halfway up the western ridge, looms over the village, while another in the east is under construction.

At least seven have been built here over the past two years, including one by a small dam that regulates Sergele's water supply, rendering it off limits to villagers.

"This is 100% a form of occupation of Kurdish [Iraqi Kurdistan] lands," says farmer Sherwan Sherwan Sergeli, 50, who has lost access to some of his land.

"The Turks ruined it."

Sergele is now in danger of being dragged into what's known locally as the "Forbidden Zone" - a large strip of land in northern Iraq affected by Turkey's war with the Kurdish militant group the PKK, which launched an insurgency in southern Turkey in 1984.

The Forbidden Zone spans almost the entire length of the Iraqi border with Turkey and is up to 40km (25 miles) deep in places.

Community Peacemaker Teams, a human rights group based in Iraqi Kurdistan, says that hundreds of civilians have been killed by drone and air strikes in and around the Forbidden Zone. According to a 2020 Kurdistan parliamentary report, thousands have been forced off their land and whole villages have been emptied out by the conflict.

Sergele is now effectively on the front line of Turkey's war with the PKK.

When the BBC World Service Eye Investigations team visited the area, Turkish aircraft pummelled the mountains surrounding the village to root out PKK militants, who have long operated from caves and tunnels in northern Iraq.

Much of the land around Sergele had been burned by shelling.

"The more bases they put up, the worse it gets for us," says Sherwan.

Turkey has been rapidly growing its military presence in the Forbidden Zone in recent years, but until now the scale of this expansion was not publicly known.

Using satellite imagery assessed by experts and corroborated with on-the-ground reporting and open-source content, the BBC found that as of December 2024, the Turkish military had built at least 136 fixed military installations across northern Iraq.

Through its vast network of military bases, Turkey now holds de-facto control of more than 2,000 sq km (772 square miles) of Iraqi land, the BBC's analysis found.

Satellite images further reveal that the Turkish military has built at least 660km (410 miles) of roads connecting its facilities. These supply routes have resulted in deforestation and left a lasting imprint on the region's mountains.

While a few of the bases date back to the 1990s, 89% have been constructed since 2018, after which Turkey began significantly expanding its military presence in Iraqi Kurdistan.

The Turkish government didn't respond to the BBC's requests for interviews, but has maintained that its military bases are necessary to push back the PKK, which is designated a terrorist organisation by Ankara and a number of Western nations, including the UK.

The sub-district capital of Kani Masi, which is only 4km (2.5 miles) from the Iraqi-Turkish border and parts of which are within the Forbidden Zone, may offer a glimpse into Sergele's future.

Once famous for its apple production, few residents remain here now.

Farmer Salam Saeed, whose land is in the shadow of a large Turkish base, hasn't been able to cultivate his vineyard for the past three years.

"The moment you get here, you will have a drone hover over you," he tells the BBC.

"They will shoot you if you stay."

The Turkish military first set up here in the 1990s and has been consolidating its presence since.

Its main military base, featuring concrete blast walls, watch and communication towers and space for armoured personnel carriers to move inside, is much more developed than the smaller outposts around Sergele.

Salam, like some other locals, believes Turkey ultimately wants to claim the territory as its own.

"All they want is for us to leave these areas," he adds.

Little leverage​

Near Kani Masi, the BBC saw first-hand how Turkish forces have effectively pushed back the Iraqi border guard, which is responsible for protecting Iraq's international boundaries.

At several locations, the border guards were manning positions well inside Iraqi territory, directly opposite Turkish troops, unable to go right up to the border and potentially risk a clash.

"The posts that you see are Turkish posts," says General Farhad Mahmoud, pointing to a ridge just across a valley, about 10km (6 miles) inside Iraqi territory.

But "we cannot reach the border to know the number of posts", he adds.

Turkey's military expansion in Iraqi Kurdistan - fuelled by its rise as a drone power and growing defence budget - is seen as part of a broader foreign policy shift towards greater interventionism in the region.

Similar to its operations in Iraq, Turkey has also sought to establish a buffer zone along its border with Syria to contain Syrian armed groups allied with the PKK.

In public, Iraq's government has condemned Turkey's military presence in the country. But behind closed doors it has accommodated some of Ankara's demands.

In 2024, the two sides signed a memorandum of understanding to jointly fight the PKK.

But the document, obtained by the BBC, did not place any limitations on Turkish troops in Iraq.

Iraq depends on Turkey for trade, investment and water security, while its fractured internal politics have further undermined the government's ability to take a strong stance.

Iraq's national government did not respond to the BBC requests for comment.

Meanwhile, the rulers of the semi-autonomous region of Iraqi Kurdistan have a close relationship with Ankara based on mutual interests and have often downplayed the civilian harm due to Turkey's military action.

The Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP), an arch enemy of the PKK, dominates the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) and has officially been in charge since 2005, when Iraq's constitution granted the region its semi-autonomous status.

The KDP's close ties with Turkey have contributed to the region's economic success and have strengthened its position, both against its regional political rivals and with the Iraqi government in Baghdad, with which it tussles for greater autonomy.

Hoshyar Zebari, a senior member of the KDP's politburo, sought to blame the PKK for Turkey's presence in Iraqi Kurdistan.

"They [the Turkish military] are not harming our people," he told the BBC.

"They are not detaining them. They are not interfering in them going about their business. Their focus, their sole goal is the PKK."

The conflict shows no signs of ending, despite the PKK's long-jailed leader Abdulla Ocalan calling in February for his fighters to lay down arms and disband.

Turkey has continued to shell targets across Iraqi Kurdistan, while the PKK claimed responsibility for downing a Turkish drone last month.

And while violent incidents in Turkey have declined since 2016, according to a tally by the NGO Crisis Group, those in Iraq have spiked, with civilians living on the border region facing growing risk of death and displacement.

One of those killed was 24-year-old Alan Ismail, a stage-four cancer patient hit by an air strike in August 2023 while on a trip to the mountains with his cousin, Hashem Shaker.

The Turkish military has denied carrying out a strike that day, but a police report seen by the BBC attributes the incident to a Turkish drone.

When Hashem filed a complaint in a local court about the attack he was detained by Kurdish security forces and held for eight months on suspicion of supporting the PKK - an accusation he and his family deny.

"It has destroyed us. It's like killing the whole family," says Ismail Chichu, Alan's father.

"They [the Turks] have no rights to kill people in their own country on their own land."

Turkey's Defence Ministry did not respond to the BBC's requests for comment. It has previously told the media that the Turkish armed forces follow international law, and that in the planning and execution of their operations they only target terrorists, while taking care to prevent harm to civilians.

The BBC has seen documents suggesting Kurdish authorities may have acted to help Turkey evade accountability for civilian casualties.

Confidential papers seen by the BBC show a Kurdish court closed the investigation into Alan's killing, saying the perpetrator was unknown.

And his death certificate - issued by Kurdish authorities and seen by the BBC - says he died because of "explosive fragments".

Failing to mention when victims of air strikes have died as a result of violence, rather than an accident, makes it difficult for families to seek justice and compensation, to which they're entitled under both Iraqi and Kurdish law.

"In most of the death certificates, they only wrote 'infijar', which means explosion," says Kamaran Othman from Community Peacemaker Teams.

"It can be anything exploding.

"I think the Kurdish Regional Government doesn't want to make Turkey responsible for what they are doing here."

The KRG said it acknowledged the "tragic loss of civilians resulting from military confrontation between the PKK and Turkish army in the region".

It added that "a number of casualties" had been documented as "civilian martyrs", meaning they have been unjustly killed and entitling them to compensation.

Almost two years after Alan was killed, his family is still waiting, if not for compensation, at least for acknowledgement from the KRG.

"They could at least send their condolences - we don't need their compensation," says Ismail.

"When something is gone, it's gone forever."
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