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So too did Europe have its religious conflicts.
I guess the ME will have to catch up to them one day. (fortunately Turkey seemed to have escaped that already)
My guess would be when its oil exports collapse.
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I guess the ME will have to catch up to them one day. (fortunately Turkey seemed to have escaped that already)
My guess would be when its oil exports collapse.
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not reading or not understanding or covering up ; America has allowed the so called Sunni moderates to take the lead . Who fight Kurds but the fighting is not designed to reach a conclusion . As long as New Turkey exists , the Kurdish project goes on .
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Both US and Israel (really the same thing considering how the US and its obedient little vassals bend over backwards to prevent any form of dissent against the Israeli state – we should have a better term for them, something like USrael) conducting strikes on Syria.
Presidential elections for Egypt will be held in December this year. Candidates standing up to Sisi have allegedly been harassed, and at least one major opposition politician has withdrawn his candidature.
Presidential elections for Egypt will be held in December this year. Candidates standing up to Sisi have allegedly been harassed, and at least one major opposition politician has withdrawn his candidature.
Most Sayyids are descendants of Ali. Where did you get that from?
Henri Christophe
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I didn't know that! When I have about muslim world in University I reach about 8 or 12 Imans who should lead the Xiita world but the last of they are dissapear and they are believing this last Iman will back soon to rule the muslim world.
I didn't know there are indeed descendents of Ali!
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The heck is that map, Mixed Sunni is different from Sunni Arab, and Shia/Sunni Arab is different from both Sunni Arab and Shia Arab? What do those areas represent?
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From the other labelled regions, I would guess Mixed Sunni means an area where the religion is majority Sunni, but the ethnicity is a mix of Arab and Kurd, while Shia/Sunni Arab, is a area where the religion is very mixed, but the ethnicity is predominantly Arab. It's not a great map though....
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This is not analysis or critical in any way and doesn't really have anything to do with what r16 is talking about? I think you should maybe work harder on the comprehension you allude to because his posts make perfect sense to me.
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the guy has 650 000 followers on the web .
has a kebab shop in Erzurum on the East of the country . Apparently he uses too much fat and on a daily show on the 10th of November (the 85th anniversary of Atatürk's death) he accused secular dogs of losing territory , was taken into custody . The two next to him are "civilians" , police officers who patrol the city and stuff against pickpockets and so on . Police uniforms would be military grade Green until the 1990s when it was changed into American kind of blue , as the Police was filled with "hidden" Islamists to fight against the godless secular dogs and the godless Military in a civil war the threat of which has been an instrument that has led to the current situation .
it is a series of calculations , a strict formula . Accordingly he was released after two days because he has tuberculosis and has to go under treatment . Simply meant to insult the rest of the country because everybody already knew it was all for show and he would be released and he would celebrate his victory even if nobody has been fighting him or anything . Don't think he is ill and even if he is ill , nothing will happen to his business either . We are simply meant to fret on how this can ever happen , some ill guy working at food sector , does the State ever check anything ? Is there anything that the people of New Turkey will be EVER be ashamed of ?
while the answer is NEVER , it is not unique to this country .
such balkanisation of the political landscape where impossibly stupid things lead to anger and hate and people (stop giving a care or trying to set things right) ALLOW people on top to do whatever they want and still stay on top . Even when the system supposedly still works . Possibly the same guy (the one with the avatar of an Ottoman sultan in a Superman custome) ı had mentioned in CFC some months ago was seen with his girlfriend drinking beer . We would have never heard about it at all but it was October and his daily routine involved attacking Israel and everybody knows like half of the things are shockingly true since 1930s . See , he is just a guy doing his job while living out of wedlock and having alcohol , will please Mossad not kill him mistakenly assuming him to be a Muslim ? No more leaks ; so clearly things have returned to normal and he no doubt attacks Israel everyday . The McDonald's franchise in this country is owned by Kuwaities and Starbucks by Qataris but both are regularly raided by bearded and turbaned protestors and yet despite it is boycotted by the same , the Coca Cola company just yesterday received further Goverment incentives . Islamists and "Muslims" will be doing no protests against THAT . The Goverment will not bother to clear Coca Cola , too . When we all hear it is Jewish and has blood on its hands and so on . It is just a game .
we will survive . Because things will not go out of control here , as long as all those heroically independent heroic people do not receive their orders from America for a Civil War here . Still having doubts about that one in Washington , still having hopes of maximising the profits by getting us destroy Iran before our own destruction . The American situation is quite different . You can FALL into one . Bloody Civil War .
ugly but true . HAMAS is not your friend . Never was . Never will be . Supposedly it means violence in Hebrew and its Israeli founders named it accordingly . HAMAS is what Allah Orders Muslims to fight against . (Yes , a great dereliction thing if you need to categorise it) Even when ignoring the Israeli connection altogether .
ı can understand the feeling ... The image , from Australia ı think , shows a victory against the "Empire" but too small for me to figure out the details . The Galactic Empire did not suffer on October 7th , is not suffering since . HAMAS will not allow you to wear short pants , man or not . If the arms and legs are dark to imply skin colour , HAMAS accepts Blacks , some as partners to enslave the rest . If they are tattoos , HAMAS rejects them , if not today then later . Not considered to have bathed if "water can not reach under the dirt" kind of thing , will never be clean to pray after any intercourse , going straight to hell kind of thing . HAMAS accepts other s_xual orientations as long as they remain the active party in intercourse and thus superior in all matters .
it is just part of the routine that has been established since
power comes out of the barrel as Mao says and the elites and whatever were utterly horrified in the 60s as the farmboys meant to sustain the Regime by killing subversives as necessary did not exactly want to die in Vietnam when they could get s_x and drugs and whatnot for free . That's why the political discourse is as it is . Dividing people into camps that will never agree with each other if it suits the elites or the Rich or this so called American Empire which am so willing to crush under the feet of my Imperial Walkers .
the American Civil War is not averted by any balance , only because it will be bad for profits if China steals the world in the interim . Wokery is nothing , there can be no cancel culture or public shame if people are not allowed to post online . At the end of the day , the "Progressives' hopes" depend on associations like Black gangs and Hispanic drug runners against the justifiably hated Police and the Rednecks and the Criminals survive so capably only because the System does not fight them at all . They will betray you , so fast and so easily . Given American history , they might literally go for scalp money .
democracy is your salvation . Only recourse . Only option . You need to talk to people . Not on your side but not too committed . Even those on your side given the divide and rule methods in effect . Talk and agree on at least not hating each other . Which showed some prospects and whatever in 2020 . That's why you people are given "non-stop care" , you millions and billions unhappy about this so called Empire . So that you can not talk to people . This instead should have been a time to re-organize the US Democrats to open more cracks in the System , which the excessively large US Economy could afford without any danger to the profits . This should have been a time when some Arbeitspartei fans be answering for their actions in starting and yet not winning .
am not offended by his posts . He probably lives in an area where the balance of power thing is rock solid and tribal politics do not happen or whatever . He has never heard of Kurdish tribes forcefully "owning" beach clubs to launder their drug money . That farmers steal electricity to water the fields in the summer and keep the animal sheds warm in the winter is bad propaganda or a bunch of lies to him . He is not happy that ı survive in CFC or whatever but he can't tell why . He will or will not say it is because ı have no trouble talking about this so called my side . (An almost racist political person in the news ... Usual media would define him as a Turkish Nationalist or something like that . He owns a mine that works without licences and permits . An Afghan miner of 50 has an accident . Instead of taking him to hospital , the wounded is beaten to death and set on fire , because profits . Miners mind you , they could have buried him in minutes to hide him to prevent their mine noticed ... Like usual , fully expected from almost racists , too . This despite their having become staunch Arab Nationalists and total Afghan supporters these days)
and he will really offer this next as proof that ı need expert medical care and stuff . That Hillary Rodham Clinton arranged for CFC start using Xenforo in 2016 . Because she had brilliantly arranged for talks between her representative and Muammer Kaddafi when people had spent effort for his exile elsewhere in Africa . This is on basically on Seyfulislam or whatever his name , son of Kaddafi that made him stop in the last minute and fall into that trap . While it was the French on the ground that controlled his rape with blunt objects and more with death under torture under orders of Sarkozy who stole some money and whatever from all those election investments of Kaddafi , it was Hillary who boasted that she came , she saw and he died . Furthermore she promised more of the same for people you don't know . Fast forward , there are some Jews who adamantly "care" for us Turks out of 1492 which is like 500 or more years ago . So , to get them she decided it was a new page and r16 the idiot and everything he said was null and void . Check 2014 or so , when the Kurds were the only hope of Civilization and and ı was the only obstacle or whatever and see if you can read it . Or don't . It is really an eyesore .
but , yes , it worked perfectly . She will reject it outright that her husband's Administration had anything to do with the videocassettes the Serbians filmed while raping Bosnian women under the protection of the US led No Fly Zone and sent to places in this country for a while . ı expect this to be fully reported in the strongest terms possible .
but yes , this post still offers no particular challenge to the widespread CFC conviction that what Israel does is fully covered by a word between F and H . Nor ever attempts to hide Hamas is part of Muslim Brotherhood and eagerly expected to migrate as the Syrian branch of the same have gone soft with depending on New Turkey drones and artillery and everything , decreasing their efficiency in our destruction . Which has been always around the corner like 1980s or whatever .
has a kebab shop in Erzurum on the East of the country . Apparently he uses too much fat and on a daily show on the 10th of November (the 85th anniversary of Atatürk's death) he accused secular dogs of losing territory , was taken into custody . The two next to him are "civilians" , police officers who patrol the city and stuff against pickpockets and so on . Police uniforms would be military grade Green until the 1990s when it was changed into American kind of blue , as the Police was filled with "hidden" Islamists to fight against the godless secular dogs and the godless Military in a civil war the threat of which has been an instrument that has led to the current situation .
it is a series of calculations , a strict formula . Accordingly he was released after two days because he has tuberculosis and has to go under treatment . Simply meant to insult the rest of the country because everybody already knew it was all for show and he would be released and he would celebrate his victory even if nobody has been fighting him or anything . Don't think he is ill and even if he is ill , nothing will happen to his business either . We are simply meant to fret on how this can ever happen , some ill guy working at food sector , does the State ever check anything ? Is there anything that the people of New Turkey will be EVER be ashamed of ?
while the answer is NEVER , it is not unique to this country .
such balkanisation of the political landscape where impossibly stupid things lead to anger and hate and people (stop giving a care or trying to set things right) ALLOW people on top to do whatever they want and still stay on top . Even when the system supposedly still works . Possibly the same guy (the one with the avatar of an Ottoman sultan in a Superman custome) ı had mentioned in CFC some months ago was seen with his girlfriend drinking beer . We would have never heard about it at all but it was October and his daily routine involved attacking Israel and everybody knows like half of the things are shockingly true since 1930s . See , he is just a guy doing his job while living out of wedlock and having alcohol , will please Mossad not kill him mistakenly assuming him to be a Muslim ? No more leaks ; so clearly things have returned to normal and he no doubt attacks Israel everyday . The McDonald's franchise in this country is owned by Kuwaities and Starbucks by Qataris but both are regularly raided by bearded and turbaned protestors and yet despite it is boycotted by the same , the Coca Cola company just yesterday received further Goverment incentives . Islamists and "Muslims" will be doing no protests against THAT . The Goverment will not bother to clear Coca Cola , too . When we all hear it is Jewish and has blood on its hands and so on . It is just a game .
we will survive . Because things will not go out of control here , as long as all those heroically independent heroic people do not receive their orders from America for a Civil War here . Still having doubts about that one in Washington , still having hopes of maximising the profits by getting us destroy Iran before our own destruction . The American situation is quite different . You can FALL into one . Bloody Civil War .
Spoiler :
ugly but true . HAMAS is not your friend . Never was . Never will be . Supposedly it means violence in Hebrew and its Israeli founders named it accordingly . HAMAS is what Allah Orders Muslims to fight against . (Yes , a great dereliction thing if you need to categorise it) Even when ignoring the Israeli connection altogether .
ı can understand the feeling ... The image , from Australia ı think , shows a victory against the "Empire" but too small for me to figure out the details . The Galactic Empire did not suffer on October 7th , is not suffering since . HAMAS will not allow you to wear short pants , man or not . If the arms and legs are dark to imply skin colour , HAMAS accepts Blacks , some as partners to enslave the rest . If they are tattoos , HAMAS rejects them , if not today then later . Not considered to have bathed if "water can not reach under the dirt" kind of thing , will never be clean to pray after any intercourse , going straight to hell kind of thing . HAMAS accepts other s_xual orientations as long as they remain the active party in intercourse and thus superior in all matters .
it is just part of the routine that has been established since
power comes out of the barrel as Mao says and the elites and whatever were utterly horrified in the 60s as the farmboys meant to sustain the Regime by killing subversives as necessary did not exactly want to die in Vietnam when they could get s_x and drugs and whatnot for free . That's why the political discourse is as it is . Dividing people into camps that will never agree with each other if it suits the elites or the Rich or this so called American Empire which am so willing to crush under the feet of my Imperial Walkers .
the American Civil War is not averted by any balance , only because it will be bad for profits if China steals the world in the interim . Wokery is nothing , there can be no cancel culture or public shame if people are not allowed to post online . At the end of the day , the "Progressives' hopes" depend on associations like Black gangs and Hispanic drug runners against the justifiably hated Police and the Rednecks and the Criminals survive so capably only because the System does not fight them at all . They will betray you , so fast and so easily . Given American history , they might literally go for scalp money .
democracy is your salvation . Only recourse . Only option . You need to talk to people . Not on your side but not too committed . Even those on your side given the divide and rule methods in effect . Talk and agree on at least not hating each other . Which showed some prospects and whatever in 2020 . That's why you people are given "non-stop care" , you millions and billions unhappy about this so called Empire . So that you can not talk to people . This instead should have been a time to re-organize the US Democrats to open more cracks in the System , which the excessively large US Economy could afford without any danger to the profits . This should have been a time when some Arbeitspartei fans be answering for their actions in starting and yet not winning .
am not offended by his posts . He probably lives in an area where the balance of power thing is rock solid and tribal politics do not happen or whatever . He has never heard of Kurdish tribes forcefully "owning" beach clubs to launder their drug money . That farmers steal electricity to water the fields in the summer and keep the animal sheds warm in the winter is bad propaganda or a bunch of lies to him . He is not happy that ı survive in CFC or whatever but he can't tell why . He will or will not say it is because ı have no trouble talking about this so called my side . (An almost racist political person in the news ... Usual media would define him as a Turkish Nationalist or something like that . He owns a mine that works without licences and permits . An Afghan miner of 50 has an accident . Instead of taking him to hospital , the wounded is beaten to death and set on fire , because profits . Miners mind you , they could have buried him in minutes to hide him to prevent their mine noticed ... Like usual , fully expected from almost racists , too . This despite their having become staunch Arab Nationalists and total Afghan supporters these days)
and he will really offer this next as proof that ı need expert medical care and stuff . That Hillary Rodham Clinton arranged for CFC start using Xenforo in 2016 . Because she had brilliantly arranged for talks between her representative and Muammer Kaddafi when people had spent effort for his exile elsewhere in Africa . This is on basically on Seyfulislam or whatever his name , son of Kaddafi that made him stop in the last minute and fall into that trap . While it was the French on the ground that controlled his rape with blunt objects and more with death under torture under orders of Sarkozy who stole some money and whatever from all those election investments of Kaddafi , it was Hillary who boasted that she came , she saw and he died . Furthermore she promised more of the same for people you don't know . Fast forward , there are some Jews who adamantly "care" for us Turks out of 1492 which is like 500 or more years ago . So , to get them she decided it was a new page and r16 the idiot and everything he said was null and void . Check 2014 or so , when the Kurds were the only hope of Civilization and and ı was the only obstacle or whatever and see if you can read it . Or don't . It is really an eyesore .
but , yes , it worked perfectly . She will reject it outright that her husband's Administration had anything to do with the videocassettes the Serbians filmed while raping Bosnian women under the protection of the US led No Fly Zone and sent to places in this country for a while . ı expect this to be fully reported in the strongest terms possible .
but yes , this post still offers no particular challenge to the widespread CFC conviction that what Israel does is fully covered by a word between F and H . Nor ever attempts to hide Hamas is part of Muslim Brotherhood and eagerly expected to migrate as the Syrian branch of the same have gone soft with depending on New Turkey drones and artillery and everything , decreasing their efficiency in our destruction . Which has been always around the corner like 1980s or whatever .
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Egypt's Sisi cruises towards victory in subdued election
By Aidan Lewis and Amina Ismail
December 12, 20231:06 PM UTCUpdated ago
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CAIRO, Dec 12 (Reuters) - Egyptians cast their ballots on Tuesday on the third and last day of a presidential election expected to give President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi a sweeping victory in the absence of real competition.
Many Egyptians have shown little interest in or knowledge about the election, although authorities and commentators on tightly controlled local media have been urging them to vote out of national duty.
"I will not vote because I am sick of this country," said 27-year-old taxi driver Hossam, who said his quality of life had deteriorated under Sisi's decade-long rule.
"When they hold a real election I will go out and vote," he said.
The election which began on Sunday is Sisi's third since taking power in 2013 after the overthrow of Egypt's first popularly elected president Mohamed Mursi. An Islamist, Mursi won the presidency a year after the ousting of long-ruling autocrat Hosni Mubarak in a popular uprising.
International monitors have criticised Egypt's human rights record under Sisi's rule, accusing the government of repressing political freedoms.
In the new capital under construction in the eastern part of Cairo, patriotic music blasted from a loudspeaker outside a polling station on an avenue lined with newly built banks and neo-pharaonic ministries.
Construction and office workers milled around outside, some waving Egyptian flags, dancing and holding up a banner with a large photo of Sisi. A few dozen people lined up to vote as plainclothes security officers looked on.
Sausan Ades, a 34-year-old state health employee, said she had come to vote "because it's our country".
"We love Egypt. It's important to take part," she said.
She said the new capital, which some criticise for its $58 billion price tag at a time when Egypt's debt is surging, was necessary for development.
The election featured three other low-profile candidates. The most prominent potential challenger halted his run in October, saying officials and thugs had targeted his supporters - accusations dismissed by the national election authority.
Critics say the election is a sham and former general Sisi's popularity has been eroded amid a grinding economic crisis and a decade-long crackdown on dissidents.
Sisi's human rights record has come under fire as tens of thousands, many from Mursi's Muslim Brotherhood, have been jailed over the past decade. The government has sought to address these issues, including by opening a national dialogue and releasing some prominent prisoners.
Sisi says stability and security are paramount, a message that resonated with some voters that spoke to Reuters.
The government's media body has said the elections are a step towards political pluralism and authorities have denied violations of electoral rules.
On Monday, the National Election Authority said that turnout on the first two days of voting had reached about 45%, surpassing that of the last presidential election in 2018, however critics cast doubt on these figures.
Reuters reporters who have been covering the elections in Cairo, Giza, Suez, and al-Arish over the last three days have witnessed crowds in front of polling stations, some being bussed in, but a relative trickle of citizens casting their votes.
"Each time Egyptians are asked to vote they are poorer than the last time, and Sisi is less popular, yet turnout is on the rise? No one, not even Sisi's few remaining supporters, believes this is a real election," said Timothy E. Kaldas, a policy fellow at Tahrir Institute for Middle East Policy.
Reporting by Aidan Lewis, additional reporting and writing by Amina Ismail, Editing by Angus MacSwan
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December 12, 20231:06 PM UTCUpdated ago
An Egyptian man walks next to a banner of presidential candidate and current Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi at the New Administrative Capital (NAC), east of Cairo, Egypt, December 12, 2023. REUTERS/Mohamed Abd El Ghany/File Photo Acquire Licensing Rights
CAIRO, Dec 12 (Reuters) - Egyptians cast their ballots on Tuesday on the third and last day of a presidential election expected to give President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi a sweeping victory in the absence of real competition.
Many Egyptians have shown little interest in or knowledge about the election, although authorities and commentators on tightly controlled local media have been urging them to vote out of national duty.
"I will not vote because I am sick of this country," said 27-year-old taxi driver Hossam, who said his quality of life had deteriorated under Sisi's decade-long rule.
"When they hold a real election I will go out and vote," he said.
The election which began on Sunday is Sisi's third since taking power in 2013 after the overthrow of Egypt's first popularly elected president Mohamed Mursi. An Islamist, Mursi won the presidency a year after the ousting of long-ruling autocrat Hosni Mubarak in a popular uprising.
International monitors have criticised Egypt's human rights record under Sisi's rule, accusing the government of repressing political freedoms.
In the new capital under construction in the eastern part of Cairo, patriotic music blasted from a loudspeaker outside a polling station on an avenue lined with newly built banks and neo-pharaonic ministries.
Construction and office workers milled around outside, some waving Egyptian flags, dancing and holding up a banner with a large photo of Sisi. A few dozen people lined up to vote as plainclothes security officers looked on.
Sausan Ades, a 34-year-old state health employee, said she had come to vote "because it's our country".
"We love Egypt. It's important to take part," she said.
She said the new capital, which some criticise for its $58 billion price tag at a time when Egypt's debt is surging, was necessary for development.
The election featured three other low-profile candidates. The most prominent potential challenger halted his run in October, saying officials and thugs had targeted his supporters - accusations dismissed by the national election authority.
Critics say the election is a sham and former general Sisi's popularity has been eroded amid a grinding economic crisis and a decade-long crackdown on dissidents.
Sisi's human rights record has come under fire as tens of thousands, many from Mursi's Muslim Brotherhood, have been jailed over the past decade. The government has sought to address these issues, including by opening a national dialogue and releasing some prominent prisoners.
Sisi says stability and security are paramount, a message that resonated with some voters that spoke to Reuters.
The government's media body has said the elections are a step towards political pluralism and authorities have denied violations of electoral rules.
On Monday, the National Election Authority said that turnout on the first two days of voting had reached about 45%, surpassing that of the last presidential election in 2018, however critics cast doubt on these figures.
Reuters reporters who have been covering the elections in Cairo, Giza, Suez, and al-Arish over the last three days have witnessed crowds in front of polling stations, some being bussed in, but a relative trickle of citizens casting their votes.
"Each time Egyptians are asked to vote they are poorer than the last time, and Sisi is less popular, yet turnout is on the rise? No one, not even Sisi's few remaining supporters, believes this is a real election," said Timothy E. Kaldas, a policy fellow at Tahrir Institute for Middle East Policy.
Reporting by Aidan Lewis, additional reporting and writing by Amina Ismail, Editing by Angus MacSwan
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there is a lot of joy on the web after the death of a Turkish MP having a stroke within seconds of the end of his speech . In which he wished God's Wrath on Israel , if you are to believe some salak of an Israeli diplomat on twitter . Incidentally the speech was more about those who traded with Israel , you know , relatives of and in some cases A-K-P members whose ships still carry fuel , export stuff and even explosives and whatnot to Israel . But yes , it is not a good thing to talk about , eh ?
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oh-kay , ı just saw it has also been repeated once or twice elsewhere in the forum . But the guy , while cursing Israel and it wouldn't be even noticed in CFC was actually taking on A-K-P as collaborators . His fall and death has been the cause of much merriment in New Turkey ranks and nobody things the "Jewish God" or a golem or whatever struck him down . Like nobody believes in "that version" of God here . Well , New Turkey is always like this ; they will never think that they are running into a "doom" by ignoring every warning on a possibility that Allah is raising them so that they will fall harder .
also a thing for a long time . Back in 2014 or whatever when Israel was bombing Gazze and it turned out tankers belonging to the PM's first son were carrying jet fuel to Israel , apparently blended here after delivery through the pipeline from Kerkük . Like the Kurds steal the Iraqi oil and this is a thing as their deals with Baghdad clears them to 17% but ISIL allowed them to ignore it and all the earnings were put in a New Turkey bank so that New Turkey could cosplay that Arab with Petrodollar thing . It eventually came out and it turned out it was Iran who sold Israel jet fuel , somehow passing it through a pipeline under New Turkey control . Everything is a lie . Do not support Israel by a belief that God supports Israel or anything .
also a thing for a long time . Back in 2014 or whatever when Israel was bombing Gazze and it turned out tankers belonging to the PM's first son were carrying jet fuel to Israel , apparently blended here after delivery through the pipeline from Kerkük . Like the Kurds steal the Iraqi oil and this is a thing as their deals with Baghdad clears them to 17% but ISIL allowed them to ignore it and all the earnings were put in a New Turkey bank so that New Turkey could cosplay that Arab with Petrodollar thing . It eventually came out and it turned out it was Iran who sold Israel jet fuel , somehow passing it through a pipeline under New Turkey control . Everything is a lie . Do not support Israel by a belief that God supports Israel or anything .
Akka
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It took two world wars for Europe to calm down.
I hope that it doesn't require the same for the ME, or we're heading for interesting times.
Or rather there will be just as many wars, but nobody will care at that point.
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Sisi wins elections in Egypt. The oppression will continue
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there is no Kurdish Syria , survival against Airpower involves keeping in "civilian areas" , any of those places are capable of holding substantial or whatever so called military capability , and do not say you wouldn't hide behind civilians before you find yourself in a position of being targeted by Airpower , from tiny drones with hand grenades to 10 ton plus bunkerbusters . Oh , Israel , oh Israel ! And the glory of stealing some of that PR glory ! Even if the tweet in isolation ignores the seperatist attacks that killed (a minimum of) 12 soldiers . No particular response from the Goverment , they would declare an official mourning but it is still too early to the New Year . Their particular understanding of the Religion sees it as a win if they can close down everything , bars and whatever , so , they are so far waiting .
yes , America has permitted the seperatists to attack .
yes , America has permitted the seperatists to attack .
Turkey has been doing this all the time for years, same in Kurdish Iraq and Sinjar. Usually it doesn’t create much of a stir but some civilians were killed at a holiday resort in Iraq last year.
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his Excellencies the idiot who will become next Saudi King Crown Prince Mega Bull S... decided that the the top football cup match of this country should be played in Riyadh , gave some 40 million dollars , would complete it to 100 . His buying entertainment did not match stuff here , nobody has even said the two teams not to bother coming back , one of the teams didn't leave the hotel now that the CEO or whatever is from a family that was rich even before New Turkey . The head of the football association , one of the usual run-of-the-mill New Turkey person who knows no shame has resigned in fear of Mega BS and stuff . The Saudis do not let team jets to take off , apparently demanding their money back . Hmm , what ı was doing ? Remembering the Bill Gunston story of the USN and USAF fighting over which side's IR-homer would become the standart American dogfight missile .
