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[Modmodmod] RFC:Europe Extra Civs
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Morholt
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Version History:
Alpha 5:
-Two more civs: Lombardy and Bohemia. These are the last civs planned.
-HRE System: the HRE is an elective, mutual defense organization, the emperor gets some special bonuses.
-Civs are now immune to collapse for 15 turns after they become the leading partner of a union.
-New Title and Loading screen.
-Collapse Dates: AI civs get a stability penalty after their historical collapse dates.
-Hussite event. Bohemia beware!
-New province: Holstein.
-Cordoban and Kievan respawns fixed. Added Hungarian respawn as Transsylvania.
-Kiev will now be force-collapsed if human plays Crimea.
-Muscovy has a new UHV.
-Prussian UHV fixed. Prussian UU comes earlier.
-The new units are no longer immune to plague.
-Tunisia slightly nerfed overall but AI is more likely to build Corsairs.
Alpha 4:
-One new civ: Denmark. Also Norse reworked into Norway, and Sweden moved to an earlier spawn. Swedish and Norwegian UHV's reworked.
-New Provinces: Gotland, Liguria, Arkhangelsk. Oppland renamed Jamtland and Karelia moved to its correct position.
-Swedish Soldier Tennant renamed Soldattorp and now replaces Night Watch instead of barracks as: A. Having them in 1210 is silly. B. Sweden, like most civs, get prebuilt barracks and having an UB that you never build is boring.
-When you enact a union all of the minor civ's Solid areas become OK for you.
-If a civ that has enacted a union is about to collapse, the union is first broken instead.
-New UHV 2&3 for Prussia, the old ones were just too boring.
-Terrain in Scandinavia slightly reworked.
-Fixed a bug that gave the Serbians 7 commerce per city.
-Fixed a bug that made some civs not show up in the Civilopedia.
-Fixed a gazillion small bugs in the union system.
-Novgorod's first diplomusic is no longer a recording from the Black Mass.
Alpha 3:
-Two more civs: Egypt and Serbia.
-Union System: at semi-random dates, some countries will have an opportunity to form a partial or complete union.
-Tetouan province enlarged and renamed to Fez.
-Added minor nations: Ziyyanids in Oran and Wattasids in Fez.
-More barbs in Maghreb and Tartary.
-Norse UHV changed to conquer the Isles instead of Scotland, should be more doable.
-Arab UHV postponed to be more doable.
-Stone in Scotland, Azov improved.
-Diplomusic for Tunisia and Morocco
Alpha 2:
-For RFC:E beta 12.
-Four more civs: Morocco, Tunisia, Scotland and Rum.
-New provinces: Courland, Prussia, Navarre. Suvalkija merged with Lithuania, Isle of Man changed to the Isles. UHVs and stability maps changed accordingly.
-The new civs' UHV's are now intelligently displayed with progress meters, like the original civs.
-Prussian UP should now actually work.
-Fixed an evil, evil bug that caused crashes during late game.
-England given a major boost since they have to deal with Scotland. The AI gets a special cheat to be able to hold onto Normandy.
-Mongol invasion of Middle East is made enormously more dangerous. AI Rum should nearly always collapse, Player Rum should be difficult to survive with past the 13th century.
-Crimean AI now always razes cities instead of keeping them. This seems to weaken them, perhaps the AI should be given an extra settler to compensate?
-Other civs slightly rebalanced.
Alpha 1:
-Modmodmod released, for RFC:E beta 11.
-Four new civs: Novgorod, Prussia, Aragon and Crimea.
-Map slightly changed to make their capitals not crap.
Meet the civs:
The Lombard Kingdom - start in 568 AD
Leader: Rothari
The Power of Commercial Centers: Trade routes also give some food.
UU: Urban Militia - the core of the Lombard League's armies, that formed the Company of Death and defeated the Emperor at Legnano.
UB: Studio - Representing the patronage of the Italian Renaissance, an early theatre with a free Artist.
UHV's:
The Lombard Kingdom: Control Lombardy, Tuscany, Liguria, Verona, Calabria and Apulia in 774.
The Lombard League: Destroy 25 units from the Holy Roman Emperor by 1250, or be the only nation in the HRE at that date.
The Italic League: Ensure that each of Lombardy, Venice, and Genoa are more powerful than each of Austria and Spain in 1494.
The Republic of Novgorod - start in 864 AD
Novgorod the Great is the master of the northern trade routes - but will it withstand the Northern Crusades, and the rise of Muscovy?
Leaders: Rurik, Alexander Nevsky, Marfa Posadnitsa
The Power of the Lord City: Start with Bureaucracy
UU: Ushkuinik - the "Russian Vikings", amphibious Maceman with extra city attack.
UB: Konets - the first guilds of Europe, a supercharged Guild Hall with extra unhealth.
UHV's:
Defender of Rus': Control Novgorod, Finland and Estonia in 1250.
The Fur Trade: Gain access to ten sources of fur by 1397.
The Great Hinterlands: Have five cities in Karelia, Rostov, and Vologda in 1478.
The Kingdom of Norway - start in 872 AD
Leaders: Harald Hardraada, Hakon iV
The Power of the Whale-Road: All naval units can enter ocean tiles.
UU: Berserker - Sacred pagan warriors, the terror of the early middle ages.
UB: Trading Post - Improves trade and ship speed, useful for maintaining a wide-flung kingdom.
UHV's:
Vikings: Gain 50 Viking points by 1066AD. You gain points from conquering cities (+1pt per population), pillaging improvements (+1pt) and sinking ships (+2pt).
Conquerors: Conquer the Isles, Ireland, Mercia, Normandy, Iceland and build Vinland by 1263AD.
Statesmen: Have higher score than Sweden, Denmark, Scotland, England, Germany and France in 1320AD.
The Kingdom of Denmark - start in 936 AD
Leaders: Harald Bluetooth, Christian IV
The Power of Sound Dues: You get 3 gold per turn for every foreign coastal city in the Baltic.
UU: Huskarl - the elite guard and standing army of Canute the great, they can destroy any contemporary infantry.
UB: Research Institute - Denmark created the first research institutes of Europe in the 16th century, gathering enormous volumes of research data.
UHV's:
North Sea Empire: Control Denmark, Skaneland, Svealand, Vestfold and Mercia in 1050.
Valdemar the Victorious: Have two cities in each of Brandenburg, Estonia and Pomerania by 1223.
Kalmar Union: Control Denmark, Norway, Vestfold, Jamtland, Skaneland, Gotaland, Svealand, Norrland, Gotland, Finland, Estonia and Iceland in 1523.
The Kingdom of Scotland - start in 960 AD
The Normans have quickly conquered England, and are greedily looking towards the ancient Kingdom of Alba. Scotland will never go down without a fight, but can she prevail in the end?
Leader: Robert the Bruce
The Power of Defiance: Lower stability penalty for losing cities and whenever you do, your other cities get free defenders.
UU: Sheltron - the ultimate anti-cavalry formation, but it's inflexibility makes it somewhat weak against everything else.
UB: Shieling - a system of transferring livestock with the seasons to keep them on good grazing grounds. A smokehouse replacement with extra bonuses for Sheep.
UHV's:
Fortification: Have 10 Forts and 3 Castles in 1296.
The Auld Alliance: Have 1000 Attitude points with France by 1560. You get points for good relations, open borders, exports, imports, and common wars.
The Celtic Union: Control Scotland, the Isles, Ireland, Wales and Bretagne in 1700.
The Egyptians - start in 972 AD
The Crusades have taken a heavy toll on the Ayyubids, eventually driving them from the Levant and toppling the their dynasty. However, the new Mamluk leaders might be able to use the chaos of the Mongol invasions to their advantage.
Leaders: Saladin, Baibars
The Power of the Nile: River tiles have +1 food.
UU: Mamluk - "Slave-noble" cavalry, the first force to ever defeat the Mongols in an open battle.
UB: Souk - an open seasonal market, improves health and commerce with the right goods.
UHV's:
Crusaders come, Crusaders go: Control Egypt, Arabia, Jerusalem, Lebanon, Syria, Antiochia and Cyprus in 1291.
Mongols come, Mongols go: Kill 50 Keshiks by 1450.
Egypt is eternal: Control 15 world wonders by 1700.
The Moroccans - start in 1040 AD
The Almoravids have quickly managed to conquer and unite a large number of Berber tribes and forge them into a nation. Will their successors the Almohads prove to be equally great statesmen or will they waste the possibility of creating a pan-Berber Empire?
Leaders: Yaqub al-Mansur, Ismail Ibn Sharif
The Power of Saharan Trade: Deserts are 1h1c, oases have triple value
UU: Black Guard - Brutally efficient sub-Saharan elite troops, with no loyalties but to the King himself.
UB: Kasbah - A city wall replacement that adds some food to the city, promoting growth in the difficult environment.
UHV's:
The Almohads: Control Morocco, Marrakesh, Tetouan, Sijilmasa, Aoudaghost, Oran, Algiers, Ifriqiya, Tripolitania, Andalusia, and Valencia in 1212AD.
The Marinids: Have 5000 culture in each of three cities in 1465AD.
The Saadis: Collapse or vassalize Portugal, Spain, and Aragon by 1578AD.
The Sultanate of Rûm - start in 1077 AD
The Seljuq Turks have stormed in from the east and conquered all of central Anatolia. It is a conquest they are likely to hold on to - because what are the odds that an even more warlike people will arrive the same way?
Leader: Kayqubad I
UU: Turcoman Horse Archer - flexible and skillful horse archers, they are able to use the terrain to their advantage.
UB: Han - a safe stopping area for caravans, it is an Inn replacement with an extra trade route that does not require a brewery.
UHV's:
The Pride of Islam: Control Anatolikon, Armeniakon, Charsiadon, Cilicia, Paphlagonia and Crimea in 1225.
Caravanserai:Build eight Hans by 1328.
Pax Anatolica: Control Anatolikon, Armeniakon, Charsiadon, Colonea, Cilicia, Paphlagonia, Thrakesion, Antiochia, Opsikion and Constantinople in 1453.
The Kingdom of Bohemia - start in 1085 AD
Leader: Ottokar II
The Power of Kingdom: You have more votes in the HRE and other Emperors' decisions affect you less.
UU: War Wagon - the famed Wagenburg or vozová hradba of the Hussites, it is supremely strong out in the open.
UB: Orloj - Bohemia is home to some of the world's oldest astronomical clocks. These mechanical wonders give you an extra production boost.
UHV's:
The Iron and Golden King - Control Bohemia, Moravia, Silesia, Austria and Carinthia in 1271.
The Iron and Golden Crown - Become Holy Roman Emperor by 1400.
The Bohemian Revolt - Have a larger population than any HRE state in 1648.
The Crown of Aragon - start in 1164 AD
A true thalassocracy, Aragon's transport fleets mean its army can be anywhere, anytime.
Leader: James I
The Power of Confederation: Extra commerce in your capital for every province you have a city in.
UU: Almogavar - Legionary-style conquerors, a stronger Guisarmier with first strikes.
UB: Seaport - A massive increase in shipping capabilities, a lighthouse that increases the transport capabilities of every ship built.
UHV's:
The Sicilian Vespers: Control Catalonia, Valencia, Baleares and Sicily in 1282AD.
Thalassocracy: Have 25 ships in 1444AD.
Realms of the Crown: Control Catalonia, Valencia, Aragon, Baleares, Corsica, Sardinia, Sicily, Apulia, Provence and Thessaly in 1474AD.
The Kingdom of Serbia - start in 1180 AD
The Serbian Empire has reached its peak, profiting from the fragmentation of the Byzantine empire - but will they be able to hold this new empire together, and will they be able to weather the storm of the numerically superior Ottomans?
Leaders: Stefan Dusan
The Power of Law: Your culture dominates other's within your cities' radius.
UU: Vlastela - noble "imitation cataphract", especially strong at taking cities.
UB: Orthodox Hram - a temple of the independent Serbian Church, giving extra faith points as well as a free priest.
UHV's:
Zakonopravilo: Get 20 stability by 1354.
Emperor of Serbs and Greeks: Control Serbia, Macedonia, Arberia, Thessaloniki, Epirus and Thessaly in 1371.
Triumph in Kosovo: Have more military units than the Ottomans in 1540.
The Kingdom of Sweden - start in 1210 AD
Leaders: Magnus Ladulås, Gustav I, Karl XII
The Power of Military Formation: All units start with Formation promotion.
UU: Karolin - the most formidable force in Europe at the time, highly drilled and fanatically religious.
UB: Soldattorp - part of the national military allotment system, this allowed Sweden to raise enormous forces very quickly.
UHV's:
The Eastern Lands: Have six cities in Norrland, Finland and Karelia in 1323.
Lion of the North: Raze 5 Catholic cities while being Protestant by 1660.
Dominium Maris Baltici: Control every coastal city on the Baltic in 1750.
The Teutonic Order/Duchy of Prussia - start in 1224 AD
To Grünwald and beyond, the Knights carve out Europe's newest superpower.
Leaders: Hermann von Salza and Frederick the Great
The Power of Cameralism: Start in Theocracy and no instability from anarchy.
UU: Death's Head Hussar - the feared elite light cavalry of Frederick the Great, a stronger Hussar.
UB: Public School - The first modern school system, it brings both stability and enlightenment among the population.
UHV's:
The Northern Crusades: Control Lithuania, Livonia, Estonia, and Pomerania in 1410AD.
Seven Years' War: Collapse or conquer two cities from each of Austria, Muscovy, Germany, Sweden, France and Spain between 1650AD and 1763AD.
Enlightened Despotism: Settle a total of 15 Great People in any combination, including Great Generals, in your capital.
The Tunisians - start in 1229 AD
The Hafsid Tunisians have conquered the entirety of Ifriqiya and have recently found a new way of filling the state's coffers - piracy. Will they be able to leverage this into becoming the premier Mediterranean power?
Leader: Uthman
The Power of Barbary Corsairs: Piracy (blockading ports that you are at peace with) gives triple gold.
UU: Corsair - a slightly weaker, but much earlier and cheaper version of the Privateer.
UB: Bagnio - the "slave prisons", where those who were abducted would be held in wait for ransom or selling. A dungeon replacement that gives free citizen specialists.
UHV's:
The Barbary Coast: Have 12 coastal cities in Oran, Algiers, Ifriqiya, Tripolitania and Cyrenaica in 1492AD.
The Abductions: Control Malta, Iceland, Ireland, Sicily and Sardinia in 1650AD.
Terror of the Mediterranean: Get 10000 gold from piracy by 1750AD.
The Crimean Khanate - start in 1441 AD
The Crimeans have a unique approach to warfare - raiding and razing is more profitable than conquering.
Leader: Devlet I Giray
The Power of Iasyri: Razing cities gives less instability and a free citizen in your capital.
UU: Chambul - the basic unit of Crimean raiding parties, an early, gunpowderless Pistolier with extra mobility.
UB: Subject Horde - the sedentary Crimeans held several nomadic hordes in vassalage that provided them with soldiers. A Guild Hall with raw production instead of free engineer, and no unhealth.
UHV's:
Seizer of the Throne: Capture or Raze Moscow by 1571AD.
Harvesting the Steppe: Raze 20 cities.
The Last of the Hordes: Have no more than 5 cities until 1699AD.
Alpha 5:
-Two more civs: Lombardy and Bohemia. These are the last civs planned.
-HRE System: the HRE is an elective, mutual defense organization, the emperor gets some special bonuses.
-Civs are now immune to collapse for 15 turns after they become the leading partner of a union.
-New Title and Loading screen.
-Collapse Dates: AI civs get a stability penalty after their historical collapse dates.
-Hussite event. Bohemia beware!
-New province: Holstein.
-Cordoban and Kievan respawns fixed. Added Hungarian respawn as Transsylvania.
-Kiev will now be force-collapsed if human plays Crimea.
-Muscovy has a new UHV.
-Prussian UHV fixed. Prussian UU comes earlier.
-The new units are no longer immune to plague.
-Tunisia slightly nerfed overall but AI is more likely to build Corsairs.
Alpha 4:
-One new civ: Denmark. Also Norse reworked into Norway, and Sweden moved to an earlier spawn. Swedish and Norwegian UHV's reworked.
-New Provinces: Gotland, Liguria, Arkhangelsk. Oppland renamed Jamtland and Karelia moved to its correct position.
-Swedish Soldier Tennant renamed Soldattorp and now replaces Night Watch instead of barracks as: A. Having them in 1210 is silly. B. Sweden, like most civs, get prebuilt barracks and having an UB that you never build is boring.
-When you enact a union all of the minor civ's Solid areas become OK for you.
-If a civ that has enacted a union is about to collapse, the union is first broken instead.
-New UHV 2&3 for Prussia, the old ones were just too boring.
-Terrain in Scandinavia slightly reworked.
-Fixed a bug that gave the Serbians 7 commerce per city.
-Fixed a bug that made some civs not show up in the Civilopedia.
-Fixed a gazillion small bugs in the union system.
-Novgorod's first diplomusic is no longer a recording from the Black Mass.
Alpha 3:
-Two more civs: Egypt and Serbia.
-Union System: at semi-random dates, some countries will have an opportunity to form a partial or complete union.
-Tetouan province enlarged and renamed to Fez.
-Added minor nations: Ziyyanids in Oran and Wattasids in Fez.
-More barbs in Maghreb and Tartary.
-Norse UHV changed to conquer the Isles instead of Scotland, should be more doable.
-Arab UHV postponed to be more doable.
-Stone in Scotland, Azov improved.
-Diplomusic for Tunisia and Morocco
Alpha 2:
-For RFC:E beta 12.
-Four more civs: Morocco, Tunisia, Scotland and Rum.
-New provinces: Courland, Prussia, Navarre. Suvalkija merged with Lithuania, Isle of Man changed to the Isles. UHVs and stability maps changed accordingly.
-The new civs' UHV's are now intelligently displayed with progress meters, like the original civs.
-Prussian UP should now actually work.
-Fixed an evil, evil bug that caused crashes during late game.
-England given a major boost since they have to deal with Scotland. The AI gets a special cheat to be able to hold onto Normandy.
-Mongol invasion of Middle East is made enormously more dangerous. AI Rum should nearly always collapse, Player Rum should be difficult to survive with past the 13th century.
-Crimean AI now always razes cities instead of keeping them. This seems to weaken them, perhaps the AI should be given an extra settler to compensate?
-Other civs slightly rebalanced.
Alpha 1:
-Modmodmod released, for RFC:E beta 11.
-Four new civs: Novgorod, Prussia, Aragon and Crimea.
-Map slightly changed to make their capitals not crap.
Meet the civs:
The Lombard Kingdom - start in 568 AD
Leader: Rothari
The Power of Commercial Centers: Trade routes also give some food.
UU: Urban Militia - the core of the Lombard League's armies, that formed the Company of Death and defeated the Emperor at Legnano.
UB: Studio - Representing the patronage of the Italian Renaissance, an early theatre with a free Artist.
UHV's:
The Lombard Kingdom: Control Lombardy, Tuscany, Liguria, Verona, Calabria and Apulia in 774.
The Lombard League: Destroy 25 units from the Holy Roman Emperor by 1250, or be the only nation in the HRE at that date.
The Italic League: Ensure that each of Lombardy, Venice, and Genoa are more powerful than each of Austria and Spain in 1494.
The Republic of Novgorod - start in 864 AD
Novgorod the Great is the master of the northern trade routes - but will it withstand the Northern Crusades, and the rise of Muscovy?
Leaders: Rurik, Alexander Nevsky, Marfa Posadnitsa
The Power of the Lord City: Start with Bureaucracy
UU: Ushkuinik - the "Russian Vikings", amphibious Maceman with extra city attack.
UB: Konets - the first guilds of Europe, a supercharged Guild Hall with extra unhealth.
UHV's:
Defender of Rus': Control Novgorod, Finland and Estonia in 1250.
The Fur Trade: Gain access to ten sources of fur by 1397.
The Great Hinterlands: Have five cities in Karelia, Rostov, and Vologda in 1478.
The Kingdom of Norway - start in 872 AD
Leaders: Harald Hardraada, Hakon iV
The Power of the Whale-Road: All naval units can enter ocean tiles.
UU: Berserker - Sacred pagan warriors, the terror of the early middle ages.
UB: Trading Post - Improves trade and ship speed, useful for maintaining a wide-flung kingdom.
UHV's:
Vikings: Gain 50 Viking points by 1066AD. You gain points from conquering cities (+1pt per population), pillaging improvements (+1pt) and sinking ships (+2pt).
Conquerors: Conquer the Isles, Ireland, Mercia, Normandy, Iceland and build Vinland by 1263AD.
Statesmen: Have higher score than Sweden, Denmark, Scotland, England, Germany and France in 1320AD.
The Kingdom of Denmark - start in 936 AD
Leaders: Harald Bluetooth, Christian IV
The Power of Sound Dues: You get 3 gold per turn for every foreign coastal city in the Baltic.
UU: Huskarl - the elite guard and standing army of Canute the great, they can destroy any contemporary infantry.
UB: Research Institute - Denmark created the first research institutes of Europe in the 16th century, gathering enormous volumes of research data.
UHV's:
North Sea Empire: Control Denmark, Skaneland, Svealand, Vestfold and Mercia in 1050.
Valdemar the Victorious: Have two cities in each of Brandenburg, Estonia and Pomerania by 1223.
Kalmar Union: Control Denmark, Norway, Vestfold, Jamtland, Skaneland, Gotaland, Svealand, Norrland, Gotland, Finland, Estonia and Iceland in 1523.
The Kingdom of Scotland - start in 960 AD
The Normans have quickly conquered England, and are greedily looking towards the ancient Kingdom of Alba. Scotland will never go down without a fight, but can she prevail in the end?
Leader: Robert the Bruce
The Power of Defiance: Lower stability penalty for losing cities and whenever you do, your other cities get free defenders.
UU: Sheltron - the ultimate anti-cavalry formation, but it's inflexibility makes it somewhat weak against everything else.
UB: Shieling - a system of transferring livestock with the seasons to keep them on good grazing grounds. A smokehouse replacement with extra bonuses for Sheep.
UHV's:
Fortification: Have 10 Forts and 3 Castles in 1296.
The Auld Alliance: Have 1000 Attitude points with France by 1560. You get points for good relations, open borders, exports, imports, and common wars.
The Celtic Union: Control Scotland, the Isles, Ireland, Wales and Bretagne in 1700.
The Egyptians - start in 972 AD
The Crusades have taken a heavy toll on the Ayyubids, eventually driving them from the Levant and toppling the their dynasty. However, the new Mamluk leaders might be able to use the chaos of the Mongol invasions to their advantage.
Leaders: Saladin, Baibars
The Power of the Nile: River tiles have +1 food.
UU: Mamluk - "Slave-noble" cavalry, the first force to ever defeat the Mongols in an open battle.
UB: Souk - an open seasonal market, improves health and commerce with the right goods.
UHV's:
Crusaders come, Crusaders go: Control Egypt, Arabia, Jerusalem, Lebanon, Syria, Antiochia and Cyprus in 1291.
Mongols come, Mongols go: Kill 50 Keshiks by 1450.
Egypt is eternal: Control 15 world wonders by 1700.
The Moroccans - start in 1040 AD
The Almoravids have quickly managed to conquer and unite a large number of Berber tribes and forge them into a nation. Will their successors the Almohads prove to be equally great statesmen or will they waste the possibility of creating a pan-Berber Empire?
Leaders: Yaqub al-Mansur, Ismail Ibn Sharif
The Power of Saharan Trade: Deserts are 1h1c, oases have triple value
UU: Black Guard - Brutally efficient sub-Saharan elite troops, with no loyalties but to the King himself.
UB: Kasbah - A city wall replacement that adds some food to the city, promoting growth in the difficult environment.
UHV's:
The Almohads: Control Morocco, Marrakesh, Tetouan, Sijilmasa, Aoudaghost, Oran, Algiers, Ifriqiya, Tripolitania, Andalusia, and Valencia in 1212AD.
The Marinids: Have 5000 culture in each of three cities in 1465AD.
The Saadis: Collapse or vassalize Portugal, Spain, and Aragon by 1578AD.
The Sultanate of Rûm - start in 1077 AD
The Seljuq Turks have stormed in from the east and conquered all of central Anatolia. It is a conquest they are likely to hold on to - because what are the odds that an even more warlike people will arrive the same way?
Leader: Kayqubad I
UU: Turcoman Horse Archer - flexible and skillful horse archers, they are able to use the terrain to their advantage.
UB: Han - a safe stopping area for caravans, it is an Inn replacement with an extra trade route that does not require a brewery.
UHV's:
The Pride of Islam: Control Anatolikon, Armeniakon, Charsiadon, Cilicia, Paphlagonia and Crimea in 1225.
Caravanserai:Build eight Hans by 1328.
Pax Anatolica: Control Anatolikon, Armeniakon, Charsiadon, Colonea, Cilicia, Paphlagonia, Thrakesion, Antiochia, Opsikion and Constantinople in 1453.
The Kingdom of Bohemia - start in 1085 AD
Leader: Ottokar II
The Power of Kingdom: You have more votes in the HRE and other Emperors' decisions affect you less.
UU: War Wagon - the famed Wagenburg or vozová hradba of the Hussites, it is supremely strong out in the open.
UB: Orloj - Bohemia is home to some of the world's oldest astronomical clocks. These mechanical wonders give you an extra production boost.
UHV's:
The Iron and Golden King - Control Bohemia, Moravia, Silesia, Austria and Carinthia in 1271.
The Iron and Golden Crown - Become Holy Roman Emperor by 1400.
The Bohemian Revolt - Have a larger population than any HRE state in 1648.
The Crown of Aragon - start in 1164 AD
A true thalassocracy, Aragon's transport fleets mean its army can be anywhere, anytime.
Leader: James I
The Power of Confederation: Extra commerce in your capital for every province you have a city in.
UU: Almogavar - Legionary-style conquerors, a stronger Guisarmier with first strikes.
UB: Seaport - A massive increase in shipping capabilities, a lighthouse that increases the transport capabilities of every ship built.
UHV's:
The Sicilian Vespers: Control Catalonia, Valencia, Baleares and Sicily in 1282AD.
Thalassocracy: Have 25 ships in 1444AD.
Realms of the Crown: Control Catalonia, Valencia, Aragon, Baleares, Corsica, Sardinia, Sicily, Apulia, Provence and Thessaly in 1474AD.
The Kingdom of Serbia - start in 1180 AD
The Serbian Empire has reached its peak, profiting from the fragmentation of the Byzantine empire - but will they be able to hold this new empire together, and will they be able to weather the storm of the numerically superior Ottomans?
Leaders: Stefan Dusan
The Power of Law: Your culture dominates other's within your cities' radius.
UU: Vlastela - noble "imitation cataphract", especially strong at taking cities.
UB: Orthodox Hram - a temple of the independent Serbian Church, giving extra faith points as well as a free priest.
UHV's:
Zakonopravilo: Get 20 stability by 1354.
Emperor of Serbs and Greeks: Control Serbia, Macedonia, Arberia, Thessaloniki, Epirus and Thessaly in 1371.
Triumph in Kosovo: Have more military units than the Ottomans in 1540.
The Kingdom of Sweden - start in 1210 AD
Leaders: Magnus Ladulås, Gustav I, Karl XII
The Power of Military Formation: All units start with Formation promotion.
UU: Karolin - the most formidable force in Europe at the time, highly drilled and fanatically religious.
UB: Soldattorp - part of the national military allotment system, this allowed Sweden to raise enormous forces very quickly.
UHV's:
The Eastern Lands: Have six cities in Norrland, Finland and Karelia in 1323.
Lion of the North: Raze 5 Catholic cities while being Protestant by 1660.
Dominium Maris Baltici: Control every coastal city on the Baltic in 1750.
The Teutonic Order/Duchy of Prussia - start in 1224 AD
To Grünwald and beyond, the Knights carve out Europe's newest superpower.
Leaders: Hermann von Salza and Frederick the Great
The Power of Cameralism: Start in Theocracy and no instability from anarchy.
UU: Death's Head Hussar - the feared elite light cavalry of Frederick the Great, a stronger Hussar.
UB: Public School - The first modern school system, it brings both stability and enlightenment among the population.
UHV's:
The Northern Crusades: Control Lithuania, Livonia, Estonia, and Pomerania in 1410AD.
Seven Years' War: Collapse or conquer two cities from each of Austria, Muscovy, Germany, Sweden, France and Spain between 1650AD and 1763AD.
Enlightened Despotism: Settle a total of 15 Great People in any combination, including Great Generals, in your capital.
The Tunisians - start in 1229 AD
The Hafsid Tunisians have conquered the entirety of Ifriqiya and have recently found a new way of filling the state's coffers - piracy. Will they be able to leverage this into becoming the premier Mediterranean power?
Leader: Uthman
The Power of Barbary Corsairs: Piracy (blockading ports that you are at peace with) gives triple gold.
UU: Corsair - a slightly weaker, but much earlier and cheaper version of the Privateer.
UB: Bagnio - the "slave prisons", where those who were abducted would be held in wait for ransom or selling. A dungeon replacement that gives free citizen specialists.
UHV's:
The Barbary Coast: Have 12 coastal cities in Oran, Algiers, Ifriqiya, Tripolitania and Cyrenaica in 1492AD.
The Abductions: Control Malta, Iceland, Ireland, Sicily and Sardinia in 1650AD.
Terror of the Mediterranean: Get 10000 gold from piracy by 1750AD.
The Crimean Khanate - start in 1441 AD
The Crimeans have a unique approach to warfare - raiding and razing is more profitable than conquering.
Leader: Devlet I Giray
The Power of Iasyri: Razing cities gives less instability and a free citizen in your capital.
UU: Chambul - the basic unit of Crimean raiding parties, an early, gunpowderless Pistolier with extra mobility.
UB: Subject Horde - the sedentary Crimeans held several nomadic hordes in vassalage that provided them with soldiers. A Guild Hall with raw production instead of free engineer, and no unhealth.
UHV's:
Seizer of the Throne: Capture or Raze Moscow by 1571AD.
Harvesting the Steppe: Raze 20 cities.
The Last of the Hordes: Have no more than 5 cities until 1699AD.
3Miro
Deity
What is Crimea? Prussia and Aragon were countries, Novgorod was a powerful city-state, but what was Crimea. There were people living there, but the only two political organization that I have heard of in the region were Bulgaria and Kiev.
AbsintheRed
Deity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Khanate
I was also thinking of adding them, but only as a minor civ (if we decide to add minor civs to RFCE)
I was also thinking of adding them, but only as a minor civ (if we decide to add minor civs to RFCE)
3Miro
Deity
Crimea = Playable Mongols, I get it now.
Morholt
Prince
More like Tatars than Mongols but yes, they were the longest lived and also the most urbanized of the genghisid successor states. They were also much of the reason why neither Poland nor Russia could get a firm grip on the Ukraine until the very last years of the mod's timeline.
Baron03
Baron
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I like this plan! Instead of morocco, be more specific like the Almoravids, I wanted them to be added to RFCE a few weeks ago.
Why not add the Almoravids or the Almohads? It would bring some life into Western Africa.
Almoravid Caliphate 1040-1147 AD
Leader: Abdallah ibn Yasin
Spawn at Marrakech 1030 AD (have a few soldiers and one settler spawn in southern Andalusia)
UB Ward (granary) +3 food +1 health (along with normal bonuses)
UP Bedouin Ancestry: all desert tiles cost one movement and produce +1 food gold and production
Or you could change a few desert tiles
UU Morroccan Lancer (armored Lancer) +25% vs polearm and heavy cavalry (along with other bonuses)
UHV 1.Have 3 cities in Andalusia, Castille, and/or Aragon; and have six cities in Morrocco, Teuten, and Oran by 1150 AD
2. Have the most faith points by 1200 AD
3. Make sure Islam is the only Religion present in Andalusia, Aragon, Morrocco, Oran, Teuten, and Ifriqiya by 1240 AD
Almohad Caliphate 1121-1269 AD
Leader: Abd al-Mumin
Spawn at Rabat? 1120 AD (they had three different capitals)
UB Sufi shrine (house of wisdom or library) +1 happiness +1 stability (along with normal bonuses)
UP Tolerant Caliph: +1 culture per non state religion in a city, no unhappiness from non state religions in a city
UU Barbary Corsair or Corsair (galleon or gun galley) +1 movement, starts with drill 1 and 2 (along with normal bonuses)
UHV 1. Build five madrassahs by 1235
2. Sink 20 christain ships
3. Be the most productive Civ by 1400 AD? Or largest Islamic Civ by 1380 AD
Extra:
Add The Great Mosque of Algiers wonder (+4 great prophet +5 culture receive more faith points)
Add the city Fes as independent (change to Fez when conquered by a Muslim Civ)
And if you don't want to add any then make one of them a barbaric invasion or something
And add the Teutonic order for the Baltic Crusades against the pagan prussians
Why not add the Almoravids or the Almohads? It would bring some life into Western Africa.
Almoravid Caliphate 1040-1147 AD
Leader: Abdallah ibn Yasin
Spawn at Marrakech 1030 AD (have a few soldiers and one settler spawn in southern Andalusia)
UB Ward (granary) +3 food +1 health (along with normal bonuses)
UP Bedouin Ancestry: all desert tiles cost one movement and produce +1 food gold and production
Or you could change a few desert tiles
UU Morroccan Lancer (armored Lancer) +25% vs polearm and heavy cavalry (along with other bonuses)
UHV 1.Have 3 cities in Andalusia, Castille, and/or Aragon; and have six cities in Morrocco, Teuten, and Oran by 1150 AD
2. Have the most faith points by 1200 AD
3. Make sure Islam is the only Religion present in Andalusia, Aragon, Morrocco, Oran, Teuten, and Ifriqiya by 1240 AD
Almohad Caliphate 1121-1269 AD
Leader: Abd al-Mumin
Spawn at Rabat? 1120 AD (they had three different capitals)
UB Sufi shrine (house of wisdom or library) +1 happiness +1 stability (along with normal bonuses)
UP Tolerant Caliph: +1 culture per non state religion in a city, no unhappiness from non state religions in a city
UU Barbary Corsair or Corsair (galleon or gun galley) +1 movement, starts with drill 1 and 2 (along with normal bonuses)
UHV 1. Build five madrassahs by 1235
2. Sink 20 christain ships
3. Be the most productive Civ by 1400 AD? Or largest Islamic Civ by 1380 AD
Extra:
Add The Great Mosque of Algiers wonder (+4 great prophet +5 culture receive more faith points)
Add the city Fes as independent (change to Fez when conquered by a Muslim Civ)
And if you don't want to add any then make one of them a barbaric invasion or something
And add the Teutonic order for the Baltic Crusades against the pagan prussians
Morholt
Prince
I think that the individual dynasties are not long lived enough to be separate civs, so the idea was to have a "Moroccan" civ that represents all the Berbers in the farther Maghreb, much like the "Norse" and "German" civs represent a handful of different petty kingdoms. "Almoravid" and "Almohad" would be dynamic names for this civ. This is mostly a playability thing, so that you have at least 200-300 years to develop your civ.
I was thinking of a desert yield improving UP for "Morocco" myself.
The Teutonic Order is already in as the Prussians (They are called "Teutonic Order" as long as they are in a theocracy, though this seems to be bugged).
I was thinking of a desert yield improving UP for "Morocco" myself.
The Teutonic Order is already in as the Prussians (They are called "Teutonic Order" as long as they are in a theocracy, though this seems to be bugged).
I really like the idea of this mod, but I really suggest that you just work with 3Miro and the creators of RFCE to work on RFCE, rather than branching out from the mod. The only reason these new civs have not been added is because 3Miro does not have time. If you create the civs and then gift it to him, he will surely add it, especially the Scottish and Serbian civs, which I think are definitely needed!
Good luck for the future!
Good luck for the future!
Baron03
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Here's my thought for a Tunisian Civ
Hafsid dynasty 1229-1574
Leader Abu zakariya
Spawn Tunis 1200AD
UU Barbary corsair (like last Moroccan idea)
UP Saharan caravan: each trade route produces a little extra commerce
UB Mercenary Barracks (better barracks)
UHV make Tunis the most populous and cultural city in all of Africa by 1420AD
2. Conquer Ifriqiya Algiers Tripolitania and Cyrenaica by 1350AD
3. Conquer Sicily and Calabria?
Or own at least 12 cities by 1450AD
Or have 5000 gold by 1500AD
Hafsid dynasty 1229-1574
Leader Abu zakariya
Spawn Tunis 1200AD
UU Barbary corsair (like last Moroccan idea)
UP Saharan caravan: each trade route produces a little extra commerce
UB Mercenary Barracks (better barracks)
UHV make Tunis the most populous and cultural city in all of Africa by 1420AD
2. Conquer Ifriqiya Algiers Tripolitania and Cyrenaica by 1350AD
3. Conquer Sicily and Calabria?
Or own at least 12 cities by 1450AD
Or have 5000 gold by 1500AD
3Miro
Deity
Unfortunately this is not the case. The main issue with new civs is not the time it takes to add them. I can add 3 - 4 new civs in about 3 hours of work. The issue comes mostly from the balance. It takes months to create a good balance between multiple civs and in some of the proposed cases, I don't even think you can come up with good balance.
RFCE will not add any more new civs until final release of 1.0. If we make RFCE 1.2, then maybe we can add new civs, but this would many months in the future, if ever.
In couple of months I will be hopefully moving to a new job. I will make more money, but I will also have less time to work on RFCE. I want to have something "complete" before then. Once we have RFCE 1.0, then Morholt, AbsintheRed and whoever else might be interested can move over to RFCE 1.2 and making whatever changes they feel like. I will contribute if I can.
AbsintheRed
Deity
That's really sad news
Not the money part of course
I of course intend to continue modding this even after 1.0, improving everything we can, but I hoped you will be here too
On the new civs: As I said, I don't want to add new playable civs.
It would make the game slower, produce more MAFs, the map would be overcrowded with too many new civs, and it would be very hard to balance.
My intention is to eventually implement these civs as minor civs, after everything else seems more or less stable.
I would be excited for a Sultanate of Rum civilization to shake things up in Anatolia. The Byzantines really need more competition. And if you make the new civs unplayable a la Zengids in SoI, you don't have to worry nearly as much about balance.
Michael Vick
#1
I bet it would be annoying (to a player that likes historicity) to have to conquer Aragon with violence as Castile in order to unify Spain. I think minor-ish civs like Aragon, Novgorod, or the Crimean Khanate should be absorbed easily without stability penalties by other civs when not played by a human. The Crimean Khanate for example was never a power in itself but went from being Ottoman vassals and annoying Russia for many years, to peacefully switching sides and becoming vassals of Muscovy during the unification of Russia. Special mechanics should be applied to civs such as these when under AI control.
For example, for Castile to obtain the Dynamic Name "Kingdom of Spain", there can be no Aragon civ left alive. The player may conquer him, or preferably peacefully annex them through a "marriage" event that can be achieved through good relations and a very high number of faith points maybe?
Personally, I think Lithuania is one of these "minor-ish" civs and something could be done to have them more easily and peacefully slide into unity with Poland.
I propose the addition of the Knights of Malta well.
UP - Spreads Knights of St. John/Hospitaller Order with a barracks and walls to every conquered city. (similar to the Arab UP in RFC)
UB - Grandmaster's Palace (Replaces Palace): + Extra Production for every city with knights hospitaller. With the replacement of the Palace, the Knights start the game with it already built, and the expansion of the Order (via the UP) will greatly overcome the crappy production on the island of Malta.
UU - Grandmaster: Replaces great general, provides double XP (I don't know, I couldn't think of anything better. Something involving the medic promotion would be a good idea, Knights Hospitaller?
UHVs: 1. Control the Coast of Libya in 1550.
2. Spread the Knights Hospitaller to 10 cities.
3. Before 1798, destroy X # of Ottoman/Arab/Cordoban units.
I see potential here for a very fun one(useful) city challenge full of sieges and naval battles on the coast of Africa. Plenty of action, with the expanding Turks seeking to control North Africa and the Barbary Corsairs causing trouble for Christians. Lots of contact with Spain, France, and the Pope, building relations in order to secure funds and units for expeditions against Ottoman interests. Faith points would certainly be involved, concerned maritime european civs will be asked to donate money to the knights (in the same way that the crusades asks for units) in exchange for good relations and points.
When they are not being played by a human, they should be vassalized rather easily, and preoccupy themselves with spamming naval units to attack any Muslim naval units. They will be the Christian answer to Muslim piracy off the Barbary Coast.
For example, for Castile to obtain the Dynamic Name "Kingdom of Spain", there can be no Aragon civ left alive. The player may conquer him, or preferably peacefully annex them through a "marriage" event that can be achieved through good relations and a very high number of faith points maybe?
Personally, I think Lithuania is one of these "minor-ish" civs and something could be done to have them more easily and peacefully slide into unity with Poland.
I propose the addition of the Knights of Malta well.
UP - Spreads Knights of St. John/Hospitaller Order with a barracks and walls to every conquered city. (similar to the Arab UP in RFC)
UB - Grandmaster's Palace (Replaces Palace): + Extra Production for every city with knights hospitaller. With the replacement of the Palace, the Knights start the game with it already built, and the expansion of the Order (via the UP) will greatly overcome the crappy production on the island of Malta.
UU - Grandmaster: Replaces great general, provides double XP (I don't know, I couldn't think of anything better. Something involving the medic promotion would be a good idea, Knights Hospitaller?
UHVs: 1. Control the Coast of Libya in 1550.
2. Spread the Knights Hospitaller to 10 cities.
3. Before 1798, destroy X # of Ottoman/Arab/Cordoban units.
I see potential here for a very fun one(useful) city challenge full of sieges and naval battles on the coast of Africa. Plenty of action, with the expanding Turks seeking to control North Africa and the Barbary Corsairs causing trouble for Christians. Lots of contact with Spain, France, and the Pope, building relations in order to secure funds and units for expeditions against Ottoman interests. Faith points would certainly be involved, concerned maritime european civs will be asked to donate money to the knights (in the same way that the crusades asks for units) in exchange for good relations and points.
When they are not being played by a human, they should be vassalized rather easily, and preoccupy themselves with spamming naval units to attack any Muslim naval units. They will be the Christian answer to Muslim piracy off the Barbary Coast.
kettenhunde
Chieftain
i would love to play this mod. that is if it could ever load completely before it crashes
If you are going to add new civs, please only add practical ones. For example adding the Knights of Malta, onto a map of Europe and North Africa, is a bit ridiculous IMO. The civs that should be considered first and foremost are:
Scotland
Serbia
Sultanate of Rum
Ayyubids
Mameluks
Kingdom of Sicily
Scotland
Serbia
Sultanate of Rum
Ayyubids
Mameluks
Kingdom of Sicily
Morholt
Prince
If this was not clear, the reason for this being a modmodmod is that the RFC:E team has stated there will not be any more major civs in the main version. If anything from this modmodmod becomes good enough to put into the main version, this would of course be fantastic.
mathl33t
Sure, but I want every civ to be playable. It is a stated goal of this modmodmod.
Michael Vick
I tried to balance it so that Castille could easily conquer Aragon if they wanted to, and in several of the times I loaded up the Dutch the Castillians had conquered the whole peninsula. Novgorod should collapse some time after Muscovy spawns and Crimea should be fighting the Russians until 1774, and be independent until 1783.
The idea of extra diplomatic options is interesting but I don't know how to make it fun.
The Knights of Malta are actually in, as an easter egg independent spawn in 1530.
kettenhunde
Are you having problems with crashes? Around what year does it crash?
The Turk
Yes, I will add civs in rough order of historical significance and playability.
A note however: I prefer "national" civs to "dynastic" ones. So I would rather have "Egypt" than "Ayyubids" and "Mamelukes".
mathl33t
Sure, but I want every civ to be playable. It is a stated goal of this modmodmod.
Michael Vick
I tried to balance it so that Castille could easily conquer Aragon if they wanted to, and in several of the times I loaded up the Dutch the Castillians had conquered the whole peninsula. Novgorod should collapse some time after Muscovy spawns and Crimea should be fighting the Russians until 1774, and be independent until 1783.
The idea of extra diplomatic options is interesting but I don't know how to make it fun.
The Knights of Malta are actually in, as an easter egg independent spawn in 1530.
kettenhunde
Are you having problems with crashes? Around what year does it crash?
The Turk
Yes, I will add civs in rough order of historical significance and playability.
A note however: I prefer "national" civs to "dynastic" ones. So I would rather have "Egypt" than "Ayyubids" and "Mamelukes".
Morholt
Prince
I've been thinking about something like that, along with an earlier Swedish spawn. Filling in "empty" areas of the map like the Maghreb has first priority though.
I'm a tad confused by what a "Crimean" Civilization is supposed to be?? Its like adding in a Russian civilization (except the Russian actually did create a civilization). I would encourage you to take that out. As for the Egyptians, the Ayyubids were Arab the Mameluks were Circassian-Turkish; so yes there is a big difference.
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