Monarchist Cookbook Game II

[6-Star General]

Here's my effort:

Spoiler :

When I started the game, it didn't like my mods for some reason. Instead of taking the time to figure out the problem, I just started playing without them. I hope that's okay.

Turn by turn:

Spoiler :

I started off the round by whipping out some buildings in Russia. I also whipped out the MoM.

I discovered a cache of secrets. I spent the money for the 50% chance of doubling the bonus, succeeded, and picked up 670 bulbs for Engineering.

745AD: Collosus BIAFL.

775 AD: I have proven that the world is round.

870 AD: Pacal built the SoZ in Mutal.
870 AD: Discovered Silver near Moscow.

880 AD: Astronomy came in. I'm running at 30% slider for 299 beakers. Failed the Horse Whisperer quest.
Opened some overseas trades.

890 AD: Judaism and Confucionism spread to us.

910 AD: Epheseus founded north of Moscow.

930 AD: Engineering completed. I go for Philosophy with the idea of taking Pacifism, but I chicken out and decline to choose a state religion. I should have though, in hind sight.

940 AD: France offers 210 gold for Currency. He's only three turns away, so I take it.
A Great Scientist pops.

960 AD: France demands back the money they just paid us. He's currently teching Feudalism at 23 turns, so I send him off broke. Currency must not have given him the money he needs.

Taking a look at France's armies, they have quite a lot of swords and axes and a fair number of galleys.

I start Notre Dame in Athens.

980 AD: Philosophy is in. I go for Theology and Divine Right for Versailles. Taoism founded in Corinth.
New city founded southwest of Moscow.

1000 AD: Theology is in. Hinduism spreads to us.
I use the last GS to bulb Paper. Maybe not the best choice.
New city founded South of Athens.

1010 AD: I whip out a bunch of buildings. Forges, lighthouses, observatories, etc. I was contemplating a war machine soon, but it never happened.

1050 AD: Louis DoW on Pacal.
I start building settlers to send to the land south of France. I'll try and colonize it, and will probably liberate them. I'll use this as a base of attack on France.

1060 AD: France captures Chichen Itza (the city, not the wonder). This is deep into Pacal's territory. I like it. Let's just hope france can't keep it up.

1090 AD: Divine Right completed. I go for Printing Press. Islam founded.
I don't know what to do about Verseilles. I consider building it near Athens, with an eye to moving our capitol to the New World. I start it in Moscow, unhappy about this choice. It is my second best producer, but still will take 40 turns, even after giving all the scientists pick axes.

1100 AD: Notre Dame completed in Athens.

1180 AD: Louis adopts Vassalage.

1190 AD: Printing Press is in. Slider at 40%, with -11 GPT, making 360 beakers.
Pacal asks me to DoW on France, but I decline. Tempting.
I change my mind about Verseilles. It's taking forever, so I think I'll just let someone else build it. I gift Divine Right to France and hope he builds it. It was a waste to research it.

Etritia founded south of France near the beaver.

1210 AD: Parthenon completed in Beijing. Nice city

1220 AD: Granted independance to our colonies, placing Justinian I on their throne. Gifted them iron and horses.

1230 AD: Justinian is already coming in handy. He picked up Aesthetics somewhere and gifted it to us.

1255 AD: Justinian converts to Christianity. I start the Moai Statues west of Athens. Not sure about this choice, but it's fine I guess.

1265 AD: Captured barbarian city north of Russia. Burn it.

1270 AD: Captured barbarian city south of France. Gifted to Justinian.

1275 AD: Nationalism in. I go for Literature.

1280 AD: Literature in. I go for Guilds.

1285 AD: Mycenae (northern-most city). starts building HE with chops.
Great Engineer pops.

1295 AD: Use the GE to rush Versailles in Moscow. This isn't the most effective use, but oh well.

1300 AD: Guilds in. I start Banking.
Slider is 40% at 436 beakers with +6 gold.



Some Screens:

Overview:

Spoiler :

Okay, so not a terribly strong turn. I could have done better on several choices.

Tech route was: Astronomy, Engineering, Philosophy, Theology, Paper (bulb), Divine Right, Printing Press, Feudalism, Nationalism, Literature, Guilds.

Pros:
Slider is running in the green at 40%, producing 436 BPT.
Notre Dame and Verseilles (and MoM, obviously).
Easy point of entry for combat in the new world.
Picked up a few extra resources (beaver and deer) as tribute from our vassal.
Basic attack force awaiting orders in the new world.
Basic navy: 5 or 6 Galleons.


Cons:
Liberalism is still a ways off. I didn't bother pursuing it, because I'm sure will still take it first.
I played a few things inefficiently. For example, Verseilles and my micromanagement.
I should have done more with my civics.
No golden ages this turn.
I forgot about the Taj Mahal! There's still time I think (maybe).

 

[futurehermit]

!@#%$^$&!@^#%$&*@(#*$!

My computer crapped out on me again. I was playing some Civ when my computer cut out as if the power in the house went out. Except the power in the house didn't go out. I try to turn on my computer and get nothing except the little green power light indicating power is still happening at least to some extent. I've tried a few different things with no success.

I am out of action until I get this sorted out and don't know how long it will take. I may have to take it in to a shop this week if I can't figure it out.

 

[r_rolo1]

Hopefully it is not a motherboard burnout .....

 

[Bleys]

I have had some similar problems, and it turned out to be the wire that runs from the button to the motherboard. Check that wire out, it may be lose or shorted out. My MB has a little plastic thing that covers my processor and fan, and has its own exhaust fan out the back. That had come lose and pulled the wire to the start butting out just a tad, which caused my computer to turn on and off, and not even start sometimes.

Hope that helps.

Played my round, didnt do baddly, but I may be overextended a bit, heh, as usual. Doing the report tomorrow, too busy playing and watching golf and football, heh. Dont be tellin me any scores either rolo! I havent watched todays matches yet! Yesterdays were brilliant though, man the Dutch look good!

Hey, rolo, I have a cool idea for some RPCs, Unrestricted Combos of the Euro 2008 teams! Willem the Roman, Louis of Greece, Jaoa of Russia, Isabella of Germany, LOL. Might be fun.

 

[Diamondeye]

Mkay, I got my BUG mod back on (looks like I just needed to patch the thing, d'oh! ), including Autolog. So I will be playing my round shortly.

EDIT 1: Played my round. Now, Photobucket is troubly laggy. I will post a report shortly.

EDIT 2: Here we go:

Spoiler Round 3 Report: 700-1200 :

Okay. Start, I look around at our magnificent greek empire. Good job by Vale first two rounds! Anyway, I decide to take a look at the financial situation.

-2 gpt on 0% slider. Ugh. I look around in some cities, and end up swapping a citizen from northtundracity from forest to silver mine (just finished). Now we have a positive gpt @ 0%. With this as my "tee-off", I decide to dedicate this round to recovering from the rapid expansion in the first two rounds. Cottages, scientist, forges, courthouses and workers are toppriority.

Anyway, here we go. First turn:

I don't plan on teching this anytime soon, or even myself, but whatever. It reduces the cost of buying it off the AI.

A couple of turns laters, Wang Kon offers me this very fair trade:

Since I have plenty of wine and have decided I want to befriend Wang (more on this later), I accept. I need to get as many as possible. Plus surplus wine makes great trading fodder.

... And since Louis hates me, I accept when Wang comes telling me to stop trading with the French:

I am working on circumnavigating with the initial three caravels from save, and I notice Mutal:

Great Library and Stonehenge... Hmm, I might have to be bit careful about Pacal. He seems weak, but he is a strong techer, and he has one of the better wonders in the game. Ah, well.

Okay. Time for some decisions: Who to befriend? As I said earlier, Wang was a sure choice (+4 from trade relations help a lot). Considering another important issue, favourite civics, I make my choice:

Pacal and Louis love HR, which I do not intend to adopt (We have a huge amount of from resources, and our is based purely on scientist specialists atm, so Representation is strong.

Qin Shi Huang has Bureaucracy, which we have. He does not have it himself (lacks the tech), but we will get diplo points with him as soon as he gets there.

And finally, Wang has Caste System as his favourite. Awesome! I am a huge fan of this civic, mainly because I detest slavery and I don't exactly excel in using it either. So I decide to befriend QSH and Wang.

Okay. I had foreseen this, but still. Look at our income when Astro rolls in:

+77!? That's great! I up the slider to 20% and go for Paper. I am thinking Education early for some universities (and OX in Athens), and to grab Lib.

Okay, after having had Astro in a couple of turns, I realize I can now trade overseas concerning gold and resources as well. So I make this trade with Wang:

I sell him an inferior food resource and two solid happiness resources for a solid happiness resource, a solid health resource, and a happy/healthy spice. Very nice.

Next trade is with QSH (I have cancelled all trade with Louis, he doesn't want to talk, and Pacal has no gold and does not want to trade resources):

Since he's going to be our pal, he can get Iron for his UU. Besides, he cant reach us. None of them have optics.

I pop the next Great Person, a scientist. I decide to launch a GA (which boosts our economy to the extent that I can run 40% slider). With that, I switch to Caste System:

I did not adopt a religion, as that would offend someone (I did not have Hinduism, I think). And look, immidiately working plusses witth Wang:

On a side note, I decide to go Printing Press for a huge commerce boost (since I am cottaging like a madman at home while retaining scientists in most cities. We are looking at a hybrid economy here, I believe).

Louis gets a rare anti-Monarchy event, which I have no idea what effect has:

Oookay, PP rolls around, I am still in GA (good idea about building MoM at start, Vale, I got it), and dicing out 500 beakers a turn on 40% with a decent gpt:

I trade something silly (CivilService?) for Feudalism from Wang:

Now, if it wasn't for the events this turn, this screenie would be extremely boring:

Great! Pacal and Louis, the two non-pleased AIs, are warring. Pacal is much weaker than Louis, so this might actuaclly strenghten Louis in the long run. Right now, however, I am glad that they aren't picking on my buddies (since Louis is the strongest, and Pacal is a techie who needs to be spanked a bit).

The turn before Education pops, we get someone telling us how awesome we are! The venerable Bede counts the cultured civs:

Okay. later the same turn, we get the message that QSH adopts Bureaucracy:

And our diplo points with him are rolling aswell.

I've mapped almost the entire world (bought Wangs Map for 125g), and I am just about to be done when Louis takes Calakmul from Pacal:

As you can see from the screenie, I am teching Economics. I have teched Guilds ->Banking for the cash multipliers, and since none of the AIs are near Education, Liberalism is in the box if we want it (we need Philo, but I was kinda hoping to trade for it. Might have to self tech it though).

And QSH proves to be stoopid:

Okay. For further notice, I selfteched Philo after all, and I stopped after it (1200 AD sharp). The situation is as follows:

I got a GM from Eco. He is sleeping somewhere. I need another GP for another golden age, and I pop one next turn. I believe he is a GS, although there might be engi or artist odds. Anyway, he can bu used along with the GM to pop a golden age, which in turn can be used to:
Switch to Free Market, switch to Hinduism, perhaps Pacifism.

We are the supreme techleader. We have Lib open and can grab Nationalism from it, or wait a bit. We have both prereqs for Gunpowder, so going Gunpowder->Chem and grab Steel might seem a good choice.

The only techs we are behind in is the Aesthetics line. We lack Aesth. I know atleast 2 AIs, probably all 3, have Lit. And I suspect Pacal has Music. You might want to look at the fourth screenie, Pacal is 1 turn from Music there. So down that line, we're behind. It leads to MilTrad and some wonders, I believe.

Our economy is wellestablished, we are the supreme leaders of GNP, we run at -5(?) GPT @ 40% slider. I have been pumping some workers out and most of our land is improved now. Mostly cottages and windmills/mines, with the occasional farm. IIRC, I have not removed any improvements that were there when I started. Furthermore, I have lots of forges and Courthouses up, the rest are being built atm.

We are low, but not critically low, on Power. I am thinking of using a city to pump out Longbows/muskets to all cities (east coast has priority, our friends live off our west coast) to improve this. Teching Gunpowder and steel might help a bit here aswell. This could be done as soon as the core cities are done with Universities and Observatories.

And then, the short version:
PROs:

• We have circumnavigated
• We have two AIs at pleased, close to Friendly (adopting Hinduism might help here)
• We have a solid economy based on both cottages, scientist and our capitals monstrous combination of Bureau and settled GPs with Rep
• Liberalism is ours for the taking
• Pacal and Louis are at war, leaving us safe (Louis has taken one of Pacals cities, that's all
• We are the only ones with Astronomy
• We have a very high happiness and health cap
• We have the University of Sankore (I grabbed it for the GS points in Athens while it had nothing to do)

CONs:

• We have been ignoring the Aesthetics line, most of the wonders are built now
• Our power is relatively low
• Most of our cities are only protected by one unit, often a phalanx or catapult, even chariot in some cases
• We are pretty "locked" considering civics; Representation, Bureaucracy and Caste System are all supporting our current economy
• Some of the AIs are heading for the AP. It might turn out to be Hinduistic, in which case we need some fast spread to prevent the AI from winning Diplo
• Religion (apart from Buddhism) is very scarce in our empire
• We have no state religion

 

[Diamondeye]

Could not include Autolog due to thread length:

Spoiler Autolog :

Spoiler Autolog :

A Mine was built near Mycenae
A Mine was built near Knossos

After End Turn:
Moscow grows to size 11
Thebes grows to size 9
Texcoco grows to size 5
Knossos finishes: Granary

Other Player Actions:

Turn 221/750 (715 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:07:49]
Knossos begins: Lighthouse (23 turns)

After End Turn:
Moscow finishes: Forge
Tlatelolco grows to size 6
Tenochtitlan grows to size 8
Tlaxcala's borders expand
Pharsalos grows to size 2

Other Player Actions:

Turn 222/750 (730 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:09:13]
Tech learned: Monarchy
Moscow begins: Aqueduct (15 turns)

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Sparta
Sparta grows to size 13
St. Petersburg grows to size 11
Argos grows to size 4
Apache grows to size 6
Pharsalos's borders expand

Other Player Actions:

Turn 223/750 (745 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:10:18]
A Mine was built near Mycenae

After End Turn:
Athens finishes: Mausoleum of Maussollos
Thebes grows to size 10
Xochicalco grows to size 5
Argos finishes: Granary

Other Player Actions:

Turn 224/750 (760 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:10:43]
Athens begins: Buddhist Monastery (3 turns)
Argos begins: Lighthouse (10 turns)

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Thebes
Athens grows to size 16

Other Player Actions:

Turn 225/750 (775 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:12:02]

After End Turn:
Athens finishes: Buddhist Monastery
Corinth grows to size 11
Tlatelolco grows to size 7
Tenochtitlan grows to size 9
Tenochtitlan's borders expand
Tlaxcala grows to size 4

Other Player Actions:

Turn 226/750 (790 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:12:42]
Athens begins: Worker (3 turns)
A Cottage was built near Tenochtitlan
A Farm was built
A Farm was built near Texcoco

After End Turn:
St. Petersburg finishes: Forge
Moscow grows to size 12
Texcoco grows to size 6

Other Player Actions:

Turn 227/750 (805 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:13:35]
St. Petersburg begins: Aqueduct (25 turns)
A Windmill was built near Tenochtitlan

After End Turn:
A Village was built near Athens
Thebes grows to size 11

Other Player Actions:

Turn 228/750 (820 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:14:18]

After End Turn:
Athens finishes: Worker
Sparta grows to size 14
St. Petersburg grows to size 12
A Village was built near Thebes
Tlatelolco grows to size 8
Texcoco finishes: Library
Tenochtitlan grows to size 10
Pharsalos grows to size 3

Other Player Actions:

Turn 229/750 (835 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:15:05]
Athens begins: Worker (3 turns)
Texcoco begins: Market (33 turns)

After End Turn:
Knossos grows to size 4
Mycenae grows to size 4
Mycenae finishes: Granary

Other Player Actions:
Civics Change: Wang Kon(Korea) from 'Slavery' to 'Caste System'

Turn 230/750 (850 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:16:09]
Mycenae begins: Courthouse (30 turns)
A Cottage was built near St. Petersburg
A Cottage was built near Mycenae

After End Turn:
Athens finishes: Worker
A Hamlet was built near Athens
Xochicalco's borders expand
Apache grows to size 7

Other Player Actions:

Turn 231/750 (860 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:17:46]
Athens begins: Worker (3 turns)
A Mine was built near Thebes
A Cottage was built near Xochicalco

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Texcoco
Whip anger has decreased in Tenochtitlan
Sparta finishes: Forge
Corinth grows to size 12
Tlatelolco grows to size 9
Texcoco grows to size 7
Tenochtitlan grows to size 11
Calixtlahuaca grows to size 4

Other Player Actions:

Turn 232/750 (870 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:18:55]
Sparta begins: Aqueduct (13 turns)
A Cottage was built near Knossos

After End Turn:
Athens finishes: Worker
Moscow grows to size 13
Thebes grows to size 12
Argos grows to size 5

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Louis XIV(France) towards Pacal II(Maya), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 233/750 (880 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:19:41]
Athens begins: Worker (3 turns)
A Windmill was built near Athens
A Cottage was built near St. Petersburg

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Astronomy
Moscow finishes: Aqueduct
Tlaxcala grows to size 5
Argos finishes: Lighthouse

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Pacal II(Maya) towards Wang Kon(Korea), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'

Turn 234/750 (890 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:20:35]
Research begun: Paper (6 Turns)
Moscow begins: Observatory (14 turns)
Argos begins: Archer (5 turns)
A Cottage was built near Xochicalco

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Tlatelolco
Athens finishes: Worker
A Hamlet was built near Athens
Sparta grows to size 15

Other Player Actions:
Taoism founded in a distant land

Turn 235/750 (900 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:22:27]
Athens begins: Worker (3 turns)
A Cottage was built near Pharsalos
A Cottage was built near Sparta

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Tlaxcala
St. Petersburg grows to size 13
Thebes's borders expand
Tlatelolco grows to size 10
Tenochtitlan grows to size 12
Xochicalco grows to size 6

Other Player Actions:

Turn 236/750 (910 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:23:16]
A Cottage was built near Thebes

After End Turn:
Athens finishes: Worker
Knossos grows to size 5
Pharsalos grows to size 4

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Louis XIV(France) towards Qin Shi Huang(China), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Civics Change: Louis XIV(France) from 'Despotism' to 'Hereditary Rule'

Turn 237/750 (920 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:25:42]
Athens begins: Observatory (7 turns)

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Paper
Thebes grows to size 13
Argos grows to size 6
Argos finishes: Archer
A Village was built near Calixtlahuaca
Apache finishes: Granary

Other Player Actions:

Turn 238/750 (930 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:27:04]
Research begun: Printing Press (11 Turns)
Argos begins: Forge (20 turns)
Apache begins: Forge (45 turns)
A Cottage was built near St. Petersburg
A Cottage was built near Knossos

After End Turn:
Corinth grows to size 13
Thebes finishes: Harbor
Aristotle (Great Scientist) born in Thebes
Texcoco grows to size 8
Tenochtitlan grows to size 13
A Hamlet was built near Calixtlahuaca

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Qin Shi Huang(China) towards MC2 Round 3 Diamondeye(Greece), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'

Turn 239/750 (940 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:28:10]
Thebes begins: Market (38 turns)
Golden Age begins
A Cottage was built near St. Petersburg
A Cottage was built near Thebes
A Cottage was built near Argos

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Thebes
Tlatelolco grows to size 11
Xochicalco finishes: Forge
Calixtlahuaca finishes: Granary
Knossos finishes: Lighthouse
Apache grows to size 8

Other Player Actions:
Civics Change: MC2 Round 3 Diamondeye(Greece) from 'Slavery' to 'Caste System'

Turn 240/750 (950 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:30:59]
Xochicalco begins: Courthouse (9 turns)
Calixtlahuaca begins: Forge (45 turns)
Knossos begins: Forge (30 turns)
A Cottage was built near Xochicalco
A Farm was built near Texcoco

After End Turn:
Tenochtitlan finishes: Buddhist Temple
A Hamlet was built near Tenochtitlan

Other Player Actions:

Turn 241/750 (960 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:32:15]
Tenochtitlan begins: Observatory (19 turns)

After End Turn:
Athens finishes: Observatory
Sparta finishes: Aqueduct
Moscow grows to size 14
Tlaxcala grows to size 6

Other Player Actions:

Turn 242/750 (970 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:33:29]
Athens begins: Buddhist Temple (3 turns)
Sparta begins: Buddhist Monastery (5 turns)
A Winery was built near Xochicalco

After End Turn:
Sparta grows to size 16
St. Petersburg finishes: Aqueduct
Thebes grows to size 14
Tlatelolco's borders expand
Tlatelolco finishes: Harbor
Argos grows to size 7

Other Player Actions:
Civics Change: Pacal II(Maya) from 'Barbarism' to 'Vassalage'

Turn 243/750 (980 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:34:42]
St. Petersburg begins: Buddhist Temple (8 turns)
Tlatelolco begins: Moai Statues (25 turns)
A Cottage was built near Moscow
A Windmill was built near Knossos

After End Turn:
St. Petersburg grows to size 14
Corinth's borders expand
Tlatelolco grows to size 12
Knossos grows to size 6
Mycenae grows to size 5

Other Player Actions:

Turn 244/750 (990 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:35:40]

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Printing Press
Athens finishes: Buddhist Temple
A Hamlet was built near St. Petersburg
Moscow finishes: Observatory
Texcoco grows to size 9
Tenochtitlan grows to size 14
Pharsalos finishes: Granary
Buddhism has spread: Pharsalos

Other Player Actions:

Turn 245/750 (1000 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:36:27]
Research begun: Education (7 Turns)
Athens begins: University of Sankore (12 turns)
Moscow begins: Buddhist Temple (5 turns)
Pharsalos begins: Forge (45 turns)
A Windmill was built near Athens
Tech learned: Feudalism

After End Turn:
Sparta finishes: Buddhist Monastery
A Hamlet was built near Xochicalco

Other Player Actions:

Turn 246/750 (1010 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:38:32]
Sparta begins: Observatory (12 turns)
A Windmill was built near Mycenae

After End Turn:
Corinth grows to size 14
Texcoco finishes: Market
Calixtlahuaca grows to size 5
A Hamlet was built near Knossos
Mycenae finishes: Courthouse

Other Player Actions:

Turn 247/750 (1020 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:39:38]
Texcoco begins: Aqueduct (8 turns)
Mycenae begins: Forge (14 turns)
A Cottage was built near Texcoco

After End Turn:
Enrico Fermi (Great Scientist) born in Athens
A Hamlet was built near St. Petersburg
Corinth finishes: Market
Tlatelolco grows to size 13
Apache grows to size 9
Pharsalos grows to size 5

Other Player Actions:

Turn 248/750 (1030 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:40:42]
Corinth begins: Forge (23 turns)
A Cottage was built near Xochicalco

After End Turn:
Thebes grows to size 15
Xochicalco finishes: Courthouse
A Hamlet was built near Xochicalco
Argos grows to size 8
Mycenae grows to size 6

Other Player Actions:

Turn 249/750 (1040 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:41:58]
Xochicalco begins: Lighthouse (6 turns)

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Tlatelolco
A Hamlet was built near Sparta
St. Petersburg finishes: Buddhist Temple
Moscow finishes: Buddhist Temple
Knossos grows to size 7
A Hamlet was built near Pharsalos

Other Player Actions:
Louis XIV(France) declares war on Pacal II(Maya)
Attitude Change: Pacal II(Maya) towards Louis XIV(France), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Louis XIV(France) towards Pacal II(Maya), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 250/750 (1050 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:42:45]
St. Petersburg begins: Buddhist Monastery (6 turns)
Moscow begins: Longbowman (3 turns)
A Windmill was built near Thebes
A Windmill was built near Knossos

After End Turn:
Athens grows to size 17
A Hamlet was built near Thebes

Other Player Actions:
Civics Change: Qin Shi Huang(China) from 'Vassalage' to 'Bureaucracy'

Turn 251/750 (1060 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:43:51]
A Winery was built near Xochicalco
A Mine was built near Calixtlahuaca

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Education
Moscow finishes: Longbowman
Texcoco grows to size 10
Tenochtitlan grows to size 15
Tlaxcala grows to size 7
Tlaxcala finishes: Forge
Argos finishes: Forge

Other Player Actions:

Turn 252/750 (1070 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:44:41]
Research begun: Guilds (3 Turns)
Moscow begins: University (7 turns)
Tlaxcala begins: Courthouse (10 turns)
Argos begins: Courthouse (12 turns)
Longbowman 1 of Moscow (Longbowman) promoted: City Garrison I
A Cottage was built near Tlatelolco

After End Turn:
A Hamlet was built near St. Petersburg
Tlatelolco grows to size 14
A Hamlet was built near Knossos

Other Player Actions:

Turn 253/750 (1080 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:45:55]
A Camp was built
A Cottage was built near Knossos

After End Turn:
Corinth grows to size 15
A Hamlet was built near Thebes
A Hamlet was built near Argos
Golden Age ends

Other Player Actions:

Turn 254/750 (1090 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:46:44]
A Windmill was built near Corinth

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Guilds
Moscow grows to size 15
Thebes finishes: Market
Texcoco finishes: Aqueduct
Xochicalco finishes: Lighthouse
Argos grows to size 9

Other Player Actions:

Turn 255/750 (1100 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:47:34]
Research begun: Banking (2 Turns)
Thebes begins: University (17 turns)
Texcoco begins: Buddhist Temple (11 turns)
Xochicalco begins: Library (11 turns)

After End Turn:
Athens finishes: University of Sankore
St. Petersburg finishes: Buddhist Monastery
Thebes grows to size 16
Judaism has spread: Calixtlahuaca
Pharsalos grows to size 6

Other Player Actions:
Civics Change: Wang Kon(Korea) from 'Barbarism' to 'Bureaucracy'

Turn 256/750 (1110 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:49:46]
Athens begins: University (5 turns)
St. Petersburg begins: University (15 turns)

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Banking
St. Petersburg grows to size 15
Tlatelolco grows to size 15
Xochicalco grows to size 7
Knossos grows to size 8

Other Player Actions:

Turn 257/750 (1120 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:51:08]
Research begun: Economics (5 Turns)
A Farm was built near Apache

After End Turn:
Sparta finishes: Observatory
Apache grows to size 10
Apache finishes: Forge
Mycenae grows to size 7

Other Player Actions:

Turn 258/750 (1130 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:51:56]
Sparta begins: University (14 turns)
Apache begins: Courthouse (15 turns)

After End Turn:
Sparta grows to size 17
A Hamlet was built near St. Petersburg
Moscow finishes: University
Tenochtitlan grows to size 16
Calixtlahuaca grows to size 6

Other Player Actions:

Turn 259/750 (1140 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:53:05]
Moscow begins: Grocer (11 turns)
A Cottage was built near Knossos

After End Turn:
Athens finishes: University
Texcoco grows to size 11
A Hamlet was built near Xochicalco
A Hamlet was built near Pharsalos

Other Player Actions:

Turn 260/750 (1150 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:54:04]
Athens begins: Grocer (6 turns)
A Cottage was built near Texcoco

After End Turn:
A Town was built near Athens
Argos grows to size 10

Other Player Actions:

Turn 261/750 (1160 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:54:51]
A Pasture was built near Calixtlahuaca
A Mine was built

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Economics
Marco Polo (Great Merchant) born in Athens
Tlatelolco grows to size 16
A Hamlet was built near Texcoco
Mycenae finishes: Forge

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Wang Kon(Korea) towards MC2 Round 3 Diamondeye(Greece), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly'

Turn 262/750 (1170 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:55:35]
Research begun: Philosophy (3 Turns)
Mycenae begins: Odeon (7 turns)

After End Turn:
Thebes grows to size 17
Tenochtitlan finishes: Observatory
A Hamlet was built near Xochicalco
A Village was built near Pharsalos

Other Player Actions:
Civics Change: Louis XIV(France) from 'Barbarism' to 'Vassalage'

Turn 263/750 (1180 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:56:28]
Tenochtitlan begins: University (20 turns)
A Camp was built
A Cottage was built near Knossos

After End Turn:
Corinth grows to size 16
Buddhism has spread: Corinth
Calixtlahuaca's borders expand
Knossos grows to size 9

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Pacal II(Maya) towards Louis XIV(France), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'

Turn 264/750 (1190 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:57:21]
A Cottage was built near Thebes

After End Turn:
Tech learned: Philosophy
A Town was built near Athens
Texcoco finishes: Buddhist Temple
Xochicalco finishes: Library
Argos's borders expand
Calixtlahuaca finishes: Forge
Knossos finishes: Forge

Other Player Actions:

Turn 265/750 (1200 AD) [16-Jun-2008 13:57:56]
Research begun: Liberalism (4 Turns)
Texcoco begins: University (14 turns)
Xochicalco begins: Odeon (10 turns)
Calixtlahuaca begins: Courthouse (14 turns)
Knossos begins: Courthouse (26 turns)
A Windmill was built near Xochicalco

 

[IagoAlberto]

I'll give this a go, I'm a decent monarch player so at least I should provide some examples of what not to do. I will likely post a report from my game tonight.

 

[vale]

Some of the AIs are heading for the AP. It might turn out to be Hinduistic, in which case we need some fast spread to prevent the AI from winning Diplo

Louis built the AP in a prior round and its Jewish. But yes the backdoor diplomatic victory is a threat.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Bah, you should have built the !@#$ thing . Usually keeping the AI out of diplo win range is simple enough though. It needs someone to vote for it, so if everyone loves louis it might be necessary to stomp on him ASAP, otherwise it doesn't matter.

 

[6-Star General]

Spoiler :

Okay, so I would definately welcome comments/advice on my turn. MC is what this is for, right?

Anyway, how about my placement of Verseilles? In hind sight, knowing that a GE was coming, I would have probably dropped Verseilles in the new world and not gifted independence - or moved the capitol there.

Terrain management? Am I wrong to keep all the farms? Frankly, this is not my usual strat... I usually (since trying for an SE economy) try to keep my cities at +4-5 growth and keep the rest for farms or mines.

Bonus is that my cities are still growing like flies.

Starting with a (. .. .. .. .ing shitload) of farms threw me off a bit.... my tendancy was to keep them and build other improvements: was I wrong at this point in the game?

Lately, even going for an SE, I turn it around by this time and go for cottages much more than I did this turn...

Was I wrong to keep no religion? I could have built the religious wonders at the drop of a hat, but I felt bad going for all the wonders, and I chickened out at picking a religion. Not to mention Organized Religion: this would have given me a huge boost, since I spent most of the round building structures.

Not having BUG (due to the game de-loading it ) definately hurt me in a general sense, but that's my own lazy fault.

 

[vale]

Bah, you should have built the !@#$ thing . Usually keeping the AI out of diplo win range is simple enough though. It needs someone to vote for it, so if everyone loves louis it might be necessary to stomp on him ASAP, otherwise it doesn't matter.

For me it was essentially an either/or choice. If I wanted the AP I couldn't do a war with Monty realistically.

At the moment in my save, Qin is pleased with Louis which is not a good thing. I can't bribe him out of open borders either just yet. Diplo loss would really stink I would have to say.

 

[vale]

Okay, so I would definately welcome comments/advice on my turn. MC is what this is for, right?

Sure.

Anyway, how about my placement of Verseilles? In hind sight, knowing that a GE was coming, I would have probably dropped Verseilles in the new world and not gifted independence - or moved the capitol there.

It seems like a reasonable choice. Although I believe it might have been better to bypass DR and head towards a more permanent solution like State Property.

I'm not the biggest fan of Versailles even with Marble as it is just way too expensive.

Terrain management? Am I wrong to keep all the farms? Frankly, this is not my usual strat... I usually (since trying for an SE economy) try to keep my cities at +4-5 growth and keep the rest for farms or mines.

Realistically, you should do what you are comfortable with. I kept the farms and ran a bunch of specialists throughout the round. Transitioning to cottages throughout would certainly have been another viable approach. Don't be afraid to replace improvements. I have a broad based plan to replace a bunch of farms with workshops over the next round.

Bonus is that my cities are still growing like flies.

This is very nice, but at a point, it is better to switch off their growth and run max specialists. Most of the cities have the potential to work 5 non artist specialists before caste system thanks to forge+library+market. If you can run those without starving, thats a pretty powerful setup even with the merchant pollution.

Starting with a (. .. .. .. .ing shitload) of farms threw me off a bit.... my tendancy was to keep them and build other improvements: was I wrong at this point in the game?

Really a matter of taste here. There was quite a bit of unimproved land sitting out there so if you wanted to convert farms, it was probably a good idea to get alot more workers out very quickly. I kept them and only focused on making new workers in the southern hemisphere.

Lately, even going for an SE, I turn it around by this time and go for cottages much more than I did this turn...

I foresee a transition to cottages very soon with the NP city taking over the brunt of the GP generation. My plan would be to let each city produce one more GP before shutting them down. Of course my transition is planned more to workshops than cottages.

Was I wrong to keep no religion? I could have built the religious wonders at the drop of a hat, but I felt bad going for all the wonders, and I chickened out at picking a religion. Not to mention Organized Religion: this would have given me a huge boost, since I spent most of the round building structures.

I stuck with NSR as well for most of the round. It is certainly helpful for diplomacy. OR+Buddhism would definitely help with buildings, but it also costs 2 turns of anarchy if you do it out of a GA and hurts the diplomacy. But the happiness was irrelevant.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

For me it was essentially an either/or choice. If I wanted the AP I couldn't do a war with Monty realistically.

At the moment in my save, Qin is pleased with Louis which is not a good thing. I can't bribe him out of open borders either just yet. Diplo loss would really stink I would have to say.

What's the exact modifier? Pleased usually isn't enough unless it is *very* close to friendly. I haven't opened the file yet because I'm at work .

The most effective way to deal with the AP builder is usually to kill them. Once we have view of cities we can tell whether it'll be an actual problem. As someone well-versed in winning via AP I can say that it is extremely obnoxious/difficult to win AP if the religion is well-spread to even 1 civ that won't vote for you. Of course if they share religion then the AI has the real problem of running against the AI that would otherwise vote for it. It's always something to keep an eye on but rarely threatening.

 

[vale]

What's the exact modifier? Pleased usually isn't enough unless it is *very* close to friendly. I haven't opened the file yet because I'm at work .

Its 0 total. He has a declared war on friend demerit and heathen demerit. And a open borders bonus and peace bonus.

 

[6-Star General]

'cause I'm not sure on the etiquette

Spoiler :

Sure.

Thank you for commenting. Your advice is generally advice that I know.... (not to say that it's not welcome - just that I've seen your posts before! ) Still though, specific comments are definately welcome.

I'd like to see some screens from some of the other posters, including you, Vale. I want to see what the alternate worlds look like. In my imagination, I would have taken over France by now.

I'll admit that playing amongst the "playas" influenced my game. In a normal game of my own, I probaly would have gone straight Police State - vassalge - theocracy, micromanaged to maximize hammers, and France would be at least on their last toes by now. Don't ask my why i didn't do this, but I'm still feeling good about the position in my save - due entirely of course to your previous two saves. For god's sake, France doesn't even have macemen yet!

 

[futurehermit]

My computer situation is now resolved! Turns out my new power supply was defective and crapped out on me. I took it with my receipt back to the comp store and they replaced it free of charge. So now I am back up and running, hurray!

 

[TheMeInTeam]

My computer situation is now resolved! Turns out my new power supply was defective and crapped out on me. I took it with my receipt back to the comp store and they replaced it free of charge. So now I am back up and running, hurray!

I thought it might be that but stayed silent for fear of looking stupid . Hardware problems are ticky-tac to figure out to begin with, and in writing it's even harder.

Well whatever, you managed the important thing, which is getting it up and running again .

 

[6-Star General]

Cheers

 

[Bleys]

OK here we go, I think I did a reasonable job this round. As usual, the AutoLog is too long, so I have edited out most of the junk.

Spoiler :

Turn 220/750 (700 AD)
Knossos finishes: Granary

Turn 221/750 (715 AD)
Tech learned: Monarchy
Knossos begins: Library (17 turns)
Moscow finishes: Forge

Turn 222/750 (730 AD)
Moscow begins: Archer (7 turns)
Tenochtitlan begins: Settler (11 turns)

Turn 223/750 (745 AD)
Argos finishes: Granary

Turn 224/750 (760 AD)
Argos begins: Forge (20 turns)
Athens finishes: Mausoleum of Maussollos
Moscow finishes: Archer

MoM comes in, we didnt get the free Artist from Music this game, but with a PHI leader, I am sure I can find a GPerson or two for some 15 turn GAs.

Turn 225/750 (775 AD)
Athens begins: Archer (2 turns)
Moscow begins: Worker (5 turns)
Athens finishes: Archer
St. Petersburg finishes: Forge

Circumvent bonus is ours. This will help a lot if we decide on an intercontinental war later.

Turn 228/750 (820 AD)
Athens begins: Buddhist Monastery (3 turns)
Texcoco begins: Archer (6 turns)

Turn 229/750 (835 AD)
Sparta finishes: Forge
Moscow finishes: Worker
Jing Ke (Great Spy) born in Thebes
Mycenae finishes: Granary

Turn 230/750 (850 AD)
Sparta begins: Archer (3 turns)
Moscow begins: Archer (3 turns)
Mycenae begins: Forge (30 turns)
Athens finishes: Buddhist Monastery

Turn 231/750 (860 AD)
Athens begins: Maceman (4 turns)
Tech learned: Astronomy
Thebes finishes: Harbor

Astronomy is done, and its amazing what it does for our economy. Without any AIs left on our continent, we needed these TRs and such. I decide to go to Aesthetics-Lit now, even though the GL is gone, because I want access to the National Wonders opened up by Lit, and Aesth also opens the Parth.

Turn 232/750 (870 AD)
Thebes begins: Barracks (15 turns)
Research begun: Aesthetics (2 Turns)
Sparta finishes: Archer
Tenochtitlan finishes: Settler

I also decided to get some settlers out, and settle some of these open spots on our land. Our economy got a big boost from Astro, so I feel we can afford some more cities. Take a look at what Astro did for our trade routes:

Turn 233/750 (880 AD)
Sparta begins: Observatory (18 turns)
Moscow begins: Archer (3 turns)
Texcoco begins: Barracks (10 turns)
Tenochtitlan begins: Archer (4 turns)
Tech learned: Aesthetics
Athens finishes: Maceman
St. Petersburg finishes: Settler
Xochicalco finishes: Forge
Argos finishes: Forge
Judaism has spread: Calixtlahuaca
Knossos finishes: Library
Apache finishes: Granary

Turn 234/750 (890 AD)
Research begun: Literature (1 Turns)
Athens begins: Observatory (7 turns)
St. Petersburg begins: Buddhist Monastery (7 turns)
Xochicalco begins: Harbor (12 turns)
Argos begins: Lighthouse (9 turns)
Knossos begins: Forge (45 turns)
Apache begins: Worker (10 turns)
Tech learned: Literature
Moscow finishes: Archer
Thebes finishes: Barracks
Tlatelolco finishes: Harbor

Turn 235/750 (900 AD)
Research begun: Drama (1 Turns)
Moscow begins: Heroic Epic (18 turns)
Thebes begins: Market (38 turns)
Tlatelolco begins: Galleon (18 turns)
Ephesus founded
Ephesus begins: Granary (90 turns)
Tech learned: Drama
Tenochtitlan finishes: Archer
Calixtlahuaca finishes: Granary

Once I get some of the Nat Wonders opened up with Lit and Drama, I start heading for Lib. With our insane tech rate, I dont really want to bulb anything if I can avoid it, so Philo is due up.

Turn 236/750 (910 AD)
Research begun: Philosophy (4 Turns)
Tenochtitlan begins: Theatre (4 turns)
Calixtlahuaca begins: Forge (26 turns)

Turn 237/750 (920 AD)
Corinth finishes: Market

Turn 238/750 (930 AD) [18:27:05]
Corinth begins: Theatre (5 turns)
Argos finishes: Lighthouse

Turn 239/750 (940 AD)
Argos begins: Harbor (12 turns)
Tech learned: Philosophy
Taoism founded in Corinth
Taoism has spread: Corinth
Tenochtitlan finishes: Theatre

Turn 240/750 (950 AD)
Research begun: Engineering (4 Turns)
Tenochtitlan begins: Observatory (19 turns)
Tenochtitlan begins: Archer (4 turns)
Judaism has spread: Argos
State Religion Change: MC2 Rd 3 Bleys(Greece) from 'no State Religion' to 'Buddhism'

Turn 241/750 (960 AD)
Halicarnassus founded
Halicarnassus begins: Granary (45 turns)
Taoism has spread: St. Petersburg
Athens finishes: Observatory
St. Petersburg finishes: Buddhist Monastery
Apache finishes: Worker
Taoism has spread: Halicarnassus

Turn 242/750 (970 AD)
Athens begins: Theatre (2 turns)
St. Petersburg begins: Theatre (4 turns)
Apache begins: Theatre (19 turns)
Athens finishes: Theatre
Texcoco finishes: Barracks
Xochicalco finishes: Harbor
Tlaxcala finishes: Forge

Turn 243/750 (980 AD)
Athens begins: The Parthenon (16 turns)
Texcoco begins: Theatre (5 turns)
Xochicalco begins: Barracks (8 turns)
Tlaxcala begins: Barracks (7 turns)
St. Petersburg finishes: Theatre
Corinth finishes: Theatre
Tenochtitlan finishes: Archer

Turn 244/750 (990 AD)
St. Petersburg begins: Taoist Monastery (7 turns)
Corinth begins: Harbor (14 turns)
Tenochtitlan begins: Observatory (19 turns)

Turn 246/750 (1010 AD)
Corinth begins: Galleon (14 turns)
Tech learned: Engineering

Turn 247/750 (1020 AD)
Research begun: Paper (3 Turns)
Mycenae finishes: Forge

Turn 248/750 (1030 AD)
Mycenae begins: Theatre (5 turns)
Texcoco finishes: Theatre
Mycenae finishes: Theatre

Turn 249/750 (1040 AD)
Tech learned: Horseback Riding
Texcoco begins: Observatory (23 turns)
Mycenae begins: Barracks (8 turns)
Tech learned: Paper
Leonardo da Vinci (Great Engineer) born in Athens
Sparta finishes: Observatory

Not much going on. I build theaters, some units, slowly getting infrastructure down.

Turn 250/750 (1050 AD)
Research begun: Education (8 Turns)
Sparta begins: Theatre (3 turns)
While attacking, Maceman decimates Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 87.1%)
While attacking in Barbarian territory at Scythian, Maceman (1.60/8) defeats Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 87.1%)

snipped some battles

Captured Scythian (Barbarian)
Scythian begins: Granary (91 turns)
Tlaxcala finishes: Barracks
Pharsalos finishes: Granary

I decided to take and keep this barb city to the north, just so no AIs will even think about settling it. They are notorious for settling any single-food spot they can find.

Turn 251/750 (1060 AD)
Sparta finishes: Theatre

Turn 252/750 (1070 AD)
Sparta begins: Settler (8 turns)
The whip was applied in Tlatelolco
St. Petersburg finishes: Taoist Monastery
Moscow finishes: Heroic Epic
Tlatelolco finishes: Galleon
Taoism has spread: Pharsalos

Turn 253/750 (1080 AD)
St. Petersburg begins: Settler (11 turns)
Moscow begins: Trebuchet (3 turns)
Tlatelolco begins: Theatre (9 turns)
The whip was applied in Argos
The whip was applied in Apache
Tlatelolco finishes: Theatre
Xochicalco finishes: Barracks
Argos finishes: Harbor
Apache finishes: Theatre

We get the Landmass quest. I may just go for it, although I cant remember the rewards, heh. Who cares though, this game is a breeze and stuff like this is fun. I also trade for Feudalism, and whip out LBs in a bunch of cities, to free up the Cats and Lanxes that are garrisons. I also want to keep that Power rating up, and a pile of CG LBs are good for that.

Turn 254/750 (1090 AD)
Tlatelolco begins: Maceman (21 turns)
Xochicalco begins: Library (8 turns)
Argos begins: Library (8 turns)
Apache begins: Barracks (19 turns)
Tech learned: Feudalism
Athens begins: Longbowman (2 turns)
Sparta begins: Longbowman (5 turns)
St. Petersburg begins: Longbowman (7 turns)
Moscow begins: Longbowman (2 turns)
Corinth begins: Longbowman (9 turns)
Thebes begins: Longbowman (13 turns)
Tlatelolco begins: Longbowman (15 turns)
Texcoco begins: Longbowman (7 turns)
Tenochtitlan begins: Longbowman (7 turns)
Xochicalco begins: Longbowman (8 turns)
Tlaxcala begins: Longbowman (7 turns)
Argos begins: Longbowman (8 turns)
Calixtlahuaca begins: Longbowman (7 turns)
Knossos begins: Longbowman (11 turns)
Apache begins: Longbowman (19 turns)
Mycenae begins: Longbowman (7 turns)
Pharsalos begins: Longbowman (19 turns)
Ephesus begins: Longbowman (19 turns)

Turn 255/750 (1100 AD)
The whip was applied in Athens
The whip was applied in Sparta
The whip was applied in St. Petersburg
The whip was applied in Moscow
The whip was applied in Corinth
The whip was applied in Thebes
The whip was applied in Tlatelolco
The whip was applied in Texcoco
The whip was applied in Tenochtitlan
The whip was applied in Xochicalco
The whip was applied in Tlaxcala
The whip was applied in Argos
The whip was applied in Calixtlahuaca
The whip was applied in Knossos
The whip was applied in Apache
The whip was applied in Mycenae
The whip was applied in Pharsalos
Athens finishes: Longbowman
Sparta finishes: Longbowman
St. Petersburg finishes: Longbowman
Moscow finishes: Longbowman
Corinth finishes: Longbowman
Thebes finishes: Longbowman
Tlatelolco finishes: Longbowman
Texcoco finishes: Longbowman
Tenochtitlan finishes: Longbowman
Xochicalco finishes: Longbowman
Tlaxcala finishes: Longbowman
Argos finishes: Longbowman
Calixtlahuaca finishes: Longbowman
Knossos finishes: Longbowman
Apache finishes: Longbowman
Mycenae finishes: Longbowman
Pharsalos finishes: Longbowman

Turn 256/750 (1110 AD)
Tlatelolco begins: Observatory (45 turns)
Xochicalco begins: Library (8 turns)
Argos begins: Library (8 turns)
Apache begins: Forge (90 turns)
Tech learned: Education
Moscow finishes: Trebuchet
Xochicalco finishes: Library
Tlaxcala finishes: Library
Mycenae finishes: Barracks

Lib is open, but I feel we have time to go for Rifling as the free tech, so I start heading toward that goal.

Turn 257/750 (1120 AD)
Research begun: Guilds (4 Turns)
Moscow begins: Maceman (4 turns)
Xochicalco begins: Courthouse (18 turns)
Tlaxcala begins: Courthouse (15 turns)
Mycenae begins: Courthouse (30 turns)
Sparta finishes: Settler
Moscow finishes: Maceman
Argos finishes: Library

Turn 258/750 (1130 AD)
Sparta begins: Buddhist Monastery (6 turns)
Moscow begins: War Elephant (3 turns)
Argos begins: Theatre (5 turns)
Moscow finishes: War Elephant

Turn 259/750 (1140 AD)
Moscow begins: Pikeman (3 turns)
Athens finishes: The Parthenon
Corinth finishes: Galleon
Knossos finishes: Forge

The Parth is done, nicely bumping our GP rates. I had switched to Buddhism and spread it earlier. I also go to Pacifism eventually, or did somewhere.

Turn 260/750 (1150 AD)
Athens begins: University (5 turns)
Corinth begins: Galleon (30 turns)
Knossos begins: Harbor (15 turns)
Tech learned: Guilds
Moscow finishes: Pikeman
Tenochtitlan finishes: Observatory
Calixtlahuaca finishes: Forge
Ephesus finishes: Granary

Turn 261/750 (1160 AD)
Research begun: Banking (3 Turns)
Moscow begins: Pikeman (3 turns)
Tenochtitlan begins: Globe Theatre (38 turns)
Calixtlahuaca begins: Library (9 turns)
Ephesus begins: Theatre (38 turns)
St. Petersburg finishes: Settler
Argos finishes: Theatre
Ephesus finishes: Theatre

Turn 262/750 (1170 AD)
St. Petersburg begins: University (15 turns)
Argos begins: Courthouse (23 turns)
Ephesus begins: Forge (180 turns)
Athens finishes: University

Turn 263/750 (1180 AD)
Athens begins: Notre Dame (14 turns)
Tech learned: Banking
Plato (Great Scientist) born in Sparta
Moscow finishes: Pikeman
Halicarnassus finishes: Granary

Notre Dame is open, another Stone wonder, so why not.

Turn 264/750 (1190 AD)
Research begun: Economics (6 Turns)
Moscow begins: Theatre (3 turns)
Halicarnassus begins: Forge (90 turns)
Moscow begins: Stable (5 turns)
Sparta finishes: Buddhist Monastery

I get the free Merch from Eco, as well as popping another Scientist. I settled every GP I have generated, including a spy, and engineer. I did build 2 Academies with Scientists, though.

Turn 265/750 (1200 AD)
Sparta begins: University (13 turns)
While attacking, Trebuchet decimates Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 81.0%)
While attacking, Maceman decimates Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 94.8%)
While attacking in Barbarian territory at Chehalis, Maceman (4.16/8) defeats Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 94.8%)
While attacking, Maceman decimates Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 86.3%)
While attacking in Barbarian territory at Chehalis, Maceman (3.92/8) defeats Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 86.3%)
Thebes finishes: Market
Texcoco finishes: Observatory

Turn 266/750 (1210 AD)
Thebes begins: Galleon (11 turns)
Texcoco begins: University (28 turns)
While attacking, Maceman decimates Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 98.5%)
While attacking in Barbarian territory at Chehalis, Maceman (5.92/8) defeats Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 98.5%)
Captured Chehalis (Barbarian)
Razed Chehalis
Chehalis lost

Razed a barb city

Turn 267/750 (1220 AD)
While attacking, Catapult 5 of Athens (Catapult) decimates Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 76.2%)
While attacking, War Elephant decimates Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 87.1%)
While attacking in Barbarian territory at Burgundian, War Elephant (2.48/8) defeats Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 87.1%)
While attacking, Chariot 1 of Athens (Chariot) decimates Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 99.8%)
While attacking in Barbarian territory at Burgundian, Chariot 1 of Athens (Chariot) (3.28/4) defeats Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 99.8%)
Captured Burgundian (Barbarian)
Burgundian begins: Theatre (76 turns)
Calixtlahuaca finishes: Library

I take a Barb city on Louis's landmass, and there is another settleable island near it, so I send a settler there as well. I can use these cities to launch on Louis later if I wish too, but for now, they are just 2 more landmasses.

Turn 268/750 (1230 AD)
Calixtlahuaca begins: Barracks (6 turns)
Moscow finishes: Stable
Tlaxcala finishes: Courthouse
Attitude Change: Pacal II(Maya) towards MC2 Rd 3 Bleys(Greece), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 269/750 (1240 AD) [00:16:36]
Moscow begins: University (10 turns)
Tlaxcala begins: Harbor (10 turns)
Tech learned: Economics
Anthony van Diemen (Great Merchant) born in Athens
Socrates (Great Scientist) born in St. Petersburg
Mycenae finishes: Courthouse

Turn 270/750 (1250 AD)
Research begun: Printing Press (2 Turns)
Mycenae begins: Library (9 turns)
The whip was applied in Knossos
The whip was applied in Pharsalos
Knossos finishes: Harbor
Christianity has spread: Knossos
Pharsalos finishes: Forge

Turn 271/750 (1255 AD)
Knossos begins: Christian Monastery (12 turns)
Pharsalos begins: Library (34 turns)
Rhodes founded
Rhodes begins: Granary (45 turns)
Tenochtitlan begins: Settler (8 turns)
The whip was applied in Corinth
The whip was applied in Thebes
The whip was applied in Xochicalco
The whip was applied in Calixtlahuaca
Tech learned: Printing Press
Corinth finishes: Galleon
Thebes finishes: Galleon
Xochicalco finishes: Courthouse
Calixtlahuaca finishes: Barracks

I whip out some Galleons. I am likely going to do a Treb-Rifles-Knight-Pile war overseas, and I hate building the Galleons post-Rifling, I want to have them when I am ready to draft.

Turn 272/750 (1260 AD)
Research begun: Gunpowder (4 Turns)
Corinth begins: Forge (45 turns)
Thebes begins: University (17 turns)
Xochicalco begins: Theatre (5 turns)
Calixtlahuaca begins: Work Boat (4 turns)
Calixtlahuaca finishes: Work Boat
Mycenae finishes: Library
Islam founded in a distant land

Turn 273/750 (1265 AD)
Calixtlahuaca begins: Harbor (10 turns)
Mycenae begins: Odeon (6 turns)
Xochicalco finishes: Theatre

Turn 274/750 (1270 AD)
Xochicalco begins: Lighthouse (9 turns)
Sparta finishes: Academy
The whip was applied in Burgundian
Athens finishes: Notre Dame
Burgundian finishes: Theatre

Another Academy, my 2nd I think, and ND also comes in, which is nice. Happiness shouldnt be an issue until Biology when we will start really cranking up the populations. Game isnt likely to reach Bio though. Another stone Wonder is available, UoS, and I have made a lot of Monastaries, so I go for it.

Turn 275/750 (1275 AD)
Athens begins: University of Sankore (13 turns)
Burgundian begins: Courthouse (180 turns)
Tech learned: Gunpowder
Sparta finishes: University
Moscow finishes: University
Apache finishes: Forge

Turn 276/750 (1280 AD)
Research begun: Replaceable Parts (7 Turns)
Sparta begins: Buddhist Missionary (5 turns)
Moscow begins: Theatre (2 turns)
Apache begins: Library (7 turns)
Sparta finishes: Buddhist Missionary
St. Petersburg finishes: University
Moscow finishes: Theatre

Turn 277/750 (1285 AD)
Sparta begins: Settler (9 turns)
St. Petersburg begins: Observatory (21 turns)
Moscow begins: Trebuchet (3 turns)
Calixtlahuaca begins: Jewish Monastery (7 turns)
Eretria founded
Eretria begins: Theatre (38 turns)
Enrico Fermi (Great Scientist) born in Tlatelolco
Texcoco finishes: University

Turn 278/750 (1290 AD)
Texcoco begins: Market (45 turns)
Tlaxcala finishes: Harbor
Knossos finishes: Christian Monastery
Mycenae finishes: Odeon

Turn 279/750 (1295 AD)
Tlaxcala begins: Lighthouse (7 turns)
Knossos begins: Theatre (5 turns)
Mycenae begins: Stable (8 turns)
The whip was applied in Scythian
Moscow finishes: Trebuchet
Scythian finishes: Granary

Turn 280/750 (1300 AD)
Moscow begins: Knight (3 turns)
Scythian begins: Theatre (13 turns)
Buddhism has spread: Calixtlahuaca

Thats it. Replacable Parts is almost done, and Lib can be next. I dont think any AIs are even close, so we are in a pretty dominating position. Vales saves have really showed the power of combining an early rush with a strong SE. I cant remember ever teching this strongly in a game like this.

 

[IagoAlberto]

So here's my first try, let me know how it looks.

Spoiler :

Here goes, my first go at posting a game. First off may I say I was very impressed with the Vale's save, it was even better playing it than it looked on the website. So basically my strategy was to re-build the economy with the end goal being a series of rifle's/cannon wars on the backwards AI.

First part of the strategy was obviously getting as many workers down to the former Aztec lands and re-building. Second was to generate a great prophet for the shrine. To get the GP, I concentrated Tenochitlan on building wonders that produce GP points, first the Chicken Pizza, which I missed and then Angkor Wat.

In retrospect I probably should have only gone for Angkor Wat, but I had little else to build there so why not. After the economy was back in the black I settled a couple more cities, one 2e of the northern iron and one 2e of the gems just out of Thebes' BFC. I soon popped a GS burned him for a Golden age and switched to pacifism and caste system after going on one last whipping binge. During the golden age i built this wonder in athens:

I also converted to buddhism after I cemented relations with Qin and Wang. I intend to go after Louis since he's close, backwards . . . and French! I traded metal casting early to Wang for monarchy and later traded compass to Wang for aesthetics and gold after other AI's had researched it. Other than that there was little trading activity although I refused a number of Louis' demands.

By the end of the round I feel I have the empire to a respectable stage of infrastructure, with HE, Oxford completed, NE close and GT and IW about to be commenced. The GT will go in apache to make a killer rifle draft city. Not sure about IW, maybe Moscow. I took steel from Liberalism and am 4 turns from rifling. So it will be a few more turns then the French will taste rifles and cannons.