[NFP] Monopolies and Corporations Game Mode Discussion Thread

[Disgustipated]

On the other hand, a situation in which the far-flung Colonies almost inevitably Break Away politically while remaining economically, culturally, or commercially connected (for Historical Example, while the United States was politically separate from Britain after 1783, Britain was the USA's biggest trading and commercial partner for the next century, and post-Empire British 'colonies' and commonwealths remained closely tied economically and culturally to Britain for decades after the political 'split')

I would say the U.K.'s situation might have been an anomaly,. since other post colony countries aren't nearly as tied to their former home country. Countries like Mexico are more tied to the U.S. economically than to Spain. And Canada has generally been our top trading partner, though they were technically British for a long time.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Any guesses for the industry bonuses of other resources?

Marble can give production bonuses towords wonders in the host city.
Insense could give bonus of religion.
Whales migh give extra tourism?
Turtles may give some science bonus?
And wine extra amenities?

I like the idea of whales giving extra tourism in relation to how popular whale watching is.

Incense does make sense for receiving more faith.

I think mercury could be the one that gives science, though turtles are a possibility too. I wonder if some will repeat?

I'm thinking that maybe tea could increase healing, as China has used herbal tea for medicinal purposes for a long time. Either that or a tea product reduces loyalty when placed in a seaport.

 

[8housesofelixir]

Either that or a tea product reduces loyalty when placed in a seaport.

I would easily imagine a steam achievement for "Loyalty-losing a city when having a Tea Product in the Seaport of that city".

 

[Xandinho]

I like the idea of whales giving extra tourism in relation to how popular whale watching is.

Incense does make sense for receiving more faith.

I think mercury could be the one that gives science, though turtles are a possibility too. I wonder if some will repeat?

I'm thinking that maybe tea could increase healing, as China has used herbal tea for medicinal purposes for a long time. Either that or a tea product reduces loyalty when placed in a seaport.

Perhaps mercury gives extra science and turtles give +100% generation of great scientist in the host city?

I think tobacco and/or furs give extra bonuses on trade routes.

Also, there must be some resource that gives production bonuses to naval units.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I would easily imagine a steam achievement for "Loyalty-losing a city when having a Tea Product in the Seaport of that city".

Maybe specifically a Royal Navy Dockyard. Better yet as England capture Boston with a Harbor. Afterwards put a Tea Product in the Seaport and then lose it to loyalty problems. Or maybe that's too complicated.

Also, there must be some resource that gives production bonuses to naval units.

I'm not sure which one would. Ivory gives production towards all military units in the host city so that covers naval as well.

 

[Pfeffersack]

Very astute observation. Right now the nearest thing to this is Civ VI's rather tepid Loyalty mechanic, which while it seems to baffle the AI, is pretty easy to overcome by a Human Player who places his governors and Civics right.

I would add amenities as a factor in theory, but only if you new city doesn grant you access to a new new luxury (and even if not - overall the consequences for mismanagment here are rather tame, too)

 

[Josephias]

I would say the U.K.'s situation might have been an anomaly,. since other post colony countries aren't nearly as tied to their former home country. Countries like Mexico are more tied to the U.S. economically than to Spain. And Canada has generally been our top trading partner, though they were technically British for a long time.

To maintan economic ties does not mean necessarily being the first trading partner, but having some benefits that improve trade over a third country in the same situation. Candada and Mexico links with USA can surpass those with the older metropoli, but being neighbour countries is an important factor in the equation too.

Still, I can say economic ties of Latin America to Spain can be a fact, as the ones of the Commonwealth to England wich Boris mentions: I worked for an (american) consulting firm where many projects in South american countries were led from the Madrid office... just because of those ties and the expansion of Spanish companies in the region.

 

[anonxanemone]

Either that or a tea product reduces loyalty when placed in a seaport.

Along this idea, how fun would it be to "accidently" trade defective products to sabotage your rivals? I imagine elaborating on this would make for a much more fun spy game than it is currently.

 

[Josephias]

Along this idea, how fun would it be to "accidently" trade defective products to sabotage your rivals? I imagine elaborating on this would make for a much more fun spy game than it is currently.

Following this idea:
Can spies steal products as if they were GWA?
Probably not, as they can’t steal relics either, but it would be damn fun.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

Following this idea:
Can spies steal products as if they were GWA?
Probably not, as they can’t steal relics either, but it would be damn fun.

Mr Bond, your mission is to infiltrate Moscow and make off with all of their delicious seasonings and chili spices . . .

 

[Myomoto]

Mr Bond, your mission is to infiltrate Moscow and make off with all of their delicious seasonings and chili spices . . .

Stealing the secrets of the KFC spice blend or the recipe for Coca Cola

 

[Kupe Navigator]

The whole "steal great works" is bugged as hell right now anyways.

 

[Republic of San Montuoso]

Stealing the secrets of the KFC spice blend or the recipe for Coca Cola

Two fun facts about the secret recipe for Coca-Cola :

1. They never patented it, because when you patent something, you have to make it public, and they wanted the recipe to stay secret, and they thought it would be more efficient to not have another Coca-similee this way;
2. Apparently, lots of ex Coca-Cola employees offered Fanta the secret recipe, but they declined each time because they have their own recipe and don't need the Coca-Cola one to be successful.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

Two fun facts about the secret recipe for Coca-Cola :

1. They never patented it, because when you patent something, you have to make it public, and they wanted the recipe to stay secret, and they thought it would be more efficient to not have another Coca-similee this way;
2. Apparently, lots of ex Coca-Cola employees offered Fanta the secret recipe, but they declined each time because they have their own recipe and don't need the Coca-Cola one to be successful.

Also it's impossible for me to believe that a company like Pepsi for example, with its gigantic budget and teams of scientists and generations upon generations in the industry, couldn't figure out the recipe for Coke if they really really wanted it.

 

[Zaarin]

Also it's impossible for me to believe that a company like Pepsi for example, with its gigantic budget and teams of scientists and generations upon generations in the industry, couldn't figure out the recipe for Coke if they really really wanted it.

Then why are they still selling something as gross as Pepsi-Cola?

 

[Republic of San Montuoso]

Then why are they still selling something as gross as Pepsi-Cola?

Personally, I found both utterly disgusting, so the question your ask about Pepsi-Cola, I can ask you for Coca-Cola

 

[Zaarin]

Personally, I found both utterly disgusting, so the question your ask about Pepsi-Cola, I can ask you for Coca-Cola

I'm not much of a soda drinker myself, and when I do partake it's usually craft root beer. However, of commercial sodas, Dr. Pepper is better than Coke and Coke is better than Pepsi. I'm pretty certain Pepsi is just a mixture of corn syrup and sugar and brown dye.

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

I'm not much of a soda drinker myself, and when I do partake it's usually craft root beer. However, of commercial sodas, Dr. Pepper is better than Coke and Coke is better than Pepsi. I'm pretty certain Pepsi is just a mixture of corn syrup and sugar and brown dye.

Anyway, as I stated earlier, it's not a Monopolies and Corporations Mode without Poppies.

 

[Zaarin]

I don't understand why people like root beer, that stuff tastes like a rabbit's urinal discharge. Don't ask how I know...

Then drink better root beer. A&W and Barq's are not real root beer.

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

Then drink better root beer. A&W and Barq's are not real root beer.

I might, but in all honesty, I'm not the type that drinks sodas, root beers, etc.