Moocher friends....
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The Last Conformist
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That's why you should have a dobbermann.Monk said:
Seriously, that doesn't change anything. He would not have done that against me without beating me up first.
HamaticBabylon
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Moocher friends.... ...where do i sign up?? 
...where do i sign up?? 
Keirador said:
We wern't preppy, but we were all rich kids.
Bluemofia
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because they can
HamaticBabylon
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NO! Because you let them exploit you!!
Bluemofia
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in other words, they can, and you don't want to stop them.
punkbass2000
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The Last Conformist said:
Care to give some sort of proof rather than just making absolute statements with no basis?
Akka
Moody old mage.
Empirical experience of everybody but the ones who want to be seen as "I don't need anybody".
Good enough for me.
Good enough for me.
The Last Conformist
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What sort of proof do you want? References to psychological studies?punkbass2000 said:
I've never met anyone who wasn't, to a lesser or greater degree, concerned about how others perceived them. Have you? If yes, did that person suffer from autism?
funxus
Orange Cycloptic Blob
It's your decision if you want to ruin your life before it's even started...Bluemofia said:
I don't understand your calculations, but it seems you're trying to prove that the rest of your life will be crap? Are you trying to give yourself an excuse to give up? Or do you want to be a societal outcast?
You working hard on it? You having a focus to improve and do whatever you can, whenever you can, to improve? If you do neither, then I don't think it will be better in five years, but if you do both of them, then it most definitely will.Bluemofia said:
Some things come naturally, some don't. Be thankful for the things you're naturally good at, and work hard to improve on the things you're not as good at.
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Actually both autists I've known in my life was concerned about how people perceived them.The Last Conformist said:
punkbass2000
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The Last Conformist said:
It was kind of a rhetorical question. You keep making statements that are wholly unprovable.
I'm sure I don't need to tell you that social sciences are hardly absolute.
I know plenty of people who aren't too concerned with others perceive them, including myself, girlfriend and my band members. There's one guy at work who also doesn't really seem to care, though I don't know him well enough to say. None of us have autism.
Also, I worked at Sobey's a year ago (grocery store) and, IMO, the three coolest people there all had some sort of mental disability and cared little about their appearances to others. I don't know for sure, but I really don't think they all had autism, at any rate.
Bluemofia
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funxus said:It's your decision if you want to ruin your life before it's even started...
I don't understand your calculations, but it seems you're trying to prove that the rest of your life will be crap? Are you trying to give yourself an excuse to give up? Or do you want to be a societal outcast?
You working hard on it? You having a focus to improve and do whatever you can, whenever you can, to improve? If you do neither, then I don't think it will be better in five years, but if you do both of them, then it most definitely will.
Some things come naturally, some don't. Be thankful for the things you're naturally good at, and work hard to improve on the things you're not as good at.
1) I for some reason I don't know, has been made enemy of society in my shcool.
2) I have been working hard on it for the past 5 years. For some reason, I have a tendency to be excluded from everything except for my areas of strength (science) then others mearly use me to getting them a good grade and later treat me like crap (which they still do, and they have enough backing to openly admit it).
tjedge1
Writer of writerly things
My thoughts exactly. I don't let guys like that stay around me for long and even become friends. The movie incidents would have been the end of it. DVD's would have got him a beating, after I got my stuff back.A'AbarachAmadan said:
The Last Conformist
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I did not say that autists do not care how other people perceived them. I said the only people who don't care are autists.Yoda Power said:
You don't get philosophical absoluteness in empirical science, true. But some generalizations are so close to absolute as to make no practical difference.punkbass2000 said:
Incidentally, it would feel intuitively right to me to include a concern for how one is perceived by others in the definition of mental health as far as humans are concerned.
(My emphasis)
That would seem to be saying you do care.
Caring "little", again, doesn't seem to imply a total lack of concern. Being "cool" doesn't exactly either. (If they were capable to do any sort of normal job, they probably didn't have severe autism.)
But OK, I can't know for certain if there are people over were you live who simply lack some of the characteristica who make the people I meet in daily life social animals. Perhaps the limits of what should be considered sane human mental makeups are wider than I have any reason to believe. Excuse, however, my skepticism.
I don't like pot. They got high; I got 20 bucks to buy a video game. Considering we all took turns buying the pot, and I never smoked it, it was rather fair.
Maybe he wants you to prove it deductively.The Last Conformist said:
They're not improvable, they're just using inductive reasoning. All the people he has met that are not autistic have had some caring for their perception. Therefore, all people care about their perception.punkbass2000 said:
Shaihulud
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My experience when i was in high school is if i don't have moocher friends i won't have any friends at all! just remember someone always have to fill the lowesty rung of the social ladder.
