Morality exists without your God.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Okay, I am going to dive into this to give everyone a good chuckle with my analogy which will probably deserve to be voted worst analogy of all time.

Think of it like the Sun and sunlight, but instead of that it is God and morality, and morality is pouring out of him and being infused into all of us. Without God, there would be no morality, but that does not mean that if you don't believe in God you are lacking morality because you're getting it just as a plant that has no concept of the sun on some higher thought process level still receives sunlight.

Okay, that is all.

Ok, so that's the analogy. But where's the support for your analogy? An analogy can be used to illustrate a point, but not to make it, so could you please provide your reasoning? How do you know that without God, there would be no morality? What knowledge did you use and how did you draw that conclusion?

 

[El_Machinae]

I actually really think this is a good analogy. The fact that modern technology "Technically" renders it obsolete shouldn't really matter. You made a valid natural comparison. Plants, naturally, gain light from the Sun. People gain moral light from the Son. In fact, its a pun on words as well

No argument. The Sun and the Son are just not optimal sources of nutrition. They ain't bad when you've nothing better, but we can do better.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

And in both cases, to much of either can do a lot of damage.

 

[Traitorfish]

If, in this analogy, the sun is God, and sunlight is morality, what are carbon dioxide, water and sugar? Given that the whole point of photosynthesis is the manufacture of sugar from carbon dioxide and water.

 

[El_Machinae]

The actual point of the analogy is that we derive morality from God, even if we don't know it. Though, it raises the question of "how would VRWCAgent know, then?"

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

It raises many questions. How come there are so many different takes on morality if all of us get it from the same source? If this is the work of Satan, how can I work out which moral values originate from where?

 

[Traitorfish]

The actual point of the analogy is that we derive morality from God, even if we don't know it. Though, it raises the question of "how would VRWCAgent know, then?"

I know, I was just seeing if we could spin out the wonky morality-as-substance construction any further.

 

[timtofly]

It raises many questions. How come there are so many different takes on morality if all of us get it from the same source? If this is the work of Satan, how can I work out which moral values originate from where?

Well there are other stars out there.