Most unemployed now no longer on dole in US

[Archbob]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/45174237

Looks like dole has run out in the US. I suspect this is one of the underlying causes of OWS. Government dole has run out for many recently. What will these people do now?

 

[holy king]

become brave soldiers in the war on drugs, showing those feds one hell of a fight.

 

[emzie]

Move on to welfare. I can't fathom being unable to find a job in 99 weeks, and not applying for some grants to learn a new technical skill.

 

[Commodore]

Move on to welfare. I can't fathom being unable to find a job in 99 weeks, and not applying for some grants to learn a new technical skill.

Agreed. With all the opportunities out there for education and jobs there is absolutely no reason people can't find SOMETHING in that time frame. I know this because I am personally experiencing this right now.

While I was in the Army I started looking for a job 8 months before I got out. I did not have any luck so I decided to use my GI Bill to go to school. Now the new GI Bill provides a housing allowence in addition to the tuition money they will pay so I won't have to work as long as I'm a full time student.

However, since I got out in August it was already too late for me to start school for the fall semester, so I needed unemployment benefits until the spring semester when my GI Bill benefits will set in. And guess what? The state is completely fine with that because I have a plan and they know I won't be on unemployment for very long.

There are also programs set up by most states to put the unemployed back to work, but most refuse to take part in those services. They are pretty good services too. We are talking one-on-ones with career counselors, resume building tools, access to job postings that aren't available to the general public, and job placement recommendations based on your interests. And all these services are provided free of charge.

As a side note, the thing that really makes me angry are veterans who stay on unemployment for an extended period of time. If there is any segment of the American population that has no excuse for finding a job, it's veterans.

 

[GenMarshall]

Oh gee, maybe these big fat cat corporate big wigs should. Oh I don't know...

....start hiring Americans instead of sitting on loads and loads of money!

 

[Commodore]

Oh gee, maybe these big fat cat corporate big wigs should. Oh I don't know...

....start hiring Americans instead of sitting on loads and loads of money!

They are hiring. They just don't always publically announce the jobs. You have to know where to look. There are also a lot of jobs that only get made available to people who are on unemployment. And thay aren't just minimum wage jobs either. The state of Pennsylvania will not allow any company to post jobs on their unemployment website unless it pays a living wage (which they determined to be $10.87 an hour.)

But, again, the problem is a lot of the people on unemployment don't use the reemployment services provided to them by the state.

 

[JollyRoger]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/45174237

Looks like dole has run out in the US. I suspect this is one of the underlying causes of OWS. Government dole has run out for many recently. What will these people do now?

Get on disability and become Tea Partiers.

 

[Luckymoose]

Oh gee, maybe these big fat cat corporate big wigs should. Oh I don't know...

....start hiring Americans instead of sitting on loads and loads of money!

They can't make loads and loads of money without hiring people to make the products and services they provide possible. Go look for a job or go back to school, the world isn't your oyster.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

The state of Pennsylvania will not allow any company to post jobs on their unemployment website unless it pays a living wage (which they determined to be $10.87 an hour.)

Lolwut !?!?!?
It's really idiotic for the state to withhold information about job openings.
What's the definition of a 'living wage' if you already have a minimum wage ?

 

[Commodore]

Lolwut !?!?!?
It's really idiotic for the state to withhold information about job openings.
What's the definition of a 'living wage' if you already have a minimum wage ?

Minimum wage is just there to ensure that workers don't get paid slave wages (i.e. 10 cents an hour), but that does not mean it is enough to keep yourself out of poverty. Minimum wage jobs are for those who don't have a family to support or a mortgage or rent to pay (such as a teenager looking to buy a car, or a supplementary income for someone who has a spouse that already makes enough money.)

A living wage is making enough money to maintain a decent lifestyle in a given area (as cost of living varies from region to region). Pennsylvania only shows jobs that pay a living wage because they are trying to put people into jobs that will allow them to live without further assistence from the state.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Minimum Wage is how much it's legal to pay you.
Living wage is how much it's possible to survive on.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Ah, OK.
I assumed minimum wage would be enough for a decent living.
Germany doesn't have any minimum wage laws atm, it's all dependant on the industry you're working in and if there's a strong union.

 

[squall78]

It's like a mass reboot of the modern employee. The company can let people go, make the remaining employees do 1.5 times the normal amount of time, and pay them less.

I dunno but 99 weeks is more then enough to find something. Enough time to get a degree.

 

[GenMarshall]

I dunno but 99 weeks is more then enough to find something. Enough time to get a degree.

Only if the job prospects are healthy. In this case with the current recession (I don't care if economists say it's over, it's not over for the common lay person), the job prospects aren't healthy with employers hesitant to hire and shutting out the long term unemployed.

 

[Akka]

Agreed. With all the opportunities out there for education and jobs there is absolutely no reason people can't find SOMETHING in that time frame. I know this because I am personally experiencing this right now.

Err...
Let me get it straigth...

While I was in the Army I started looking for a job 8 months before I got out. I did not have any luck so I decided to use my GI Bill to go to school. Now the new GI Bill provides a housing allowence in addition to the tuition money they will pay so I won't have to work as long as I'm a full time student.

However, since I got out in August it was already too late for me to start school for the fall semester, so I needed unemployment benefits until the spring semester when my GI Bill benefits will set in. And guess what? The state is completely fine with that because I have a plan and they know I won't be on unemployment for very long.

You said you're not going to be on unemployment for very long, but if we add the 8 monthes of looking for a job + the time you spent in school + the unemployment benefits until spring...

Seems to me that despite what you claim, it's quite a long time to find a job, actually...

 

[JollyRoger]

All of that while getting $ from the government.

 

[amadeus]

Move on to welfare. I can't fathom being unable to find a job in 99 weeks, and not applying for some grants to learn a new technical skill.

It's almost as if some people wouldn't want to work unless they had to...

Nah, that's silly. Everybody likes to work.

 

[innonimatu]

You said you're not going to be on unemployment for very long, but if we add the 8 monthes of looking for a job + the time you spent in school + the unemployment benefits until spring...

Seems to me that despite what you claim, it's quite a long time to find a job, actually...

Yep, I noticed that contradiction too.
Also, plans sometimes go wrong. But Commodore is at least lucky enough to still have some state-provided benefits allowing him to avoid falling into the student-debt trap, at least, so I understand why he's not complaining very much.

 

[Akka]

He was lucky enough to have had more than 8 monthes of preparation (though it wasn't sufficient).
Not everyone has the luxury of knowing exactly when they will get left out.

 

[Archbob]

Yep, I noticed that contradiction too.
Also, plans sometimes go wrong. But Commodore is at least lucky enough to still have some state-provided benefits allowing him to avoid falling into the student-debt trap, at least, so I understand why he's not complaining very much.

Well, he did serve in the army, which most people don't.